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Re: An Australian republic
Reply #150 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:10pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

if it ait broke..

don't fix it..

Totally agree.

It's a race of egos to see who will go down in history as being the one to bring about significant change and/or be our first President.

I doubt that you (or I) will be alive to see it, but our children's kids, kids will. It's inevitable. Plus more plausible than finding "human life" on Mars.

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Reply #151 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:11pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:05pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 3:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:

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OK... if you deny TROLLING, call it FLAMING
. Do you understand that Internet Term, arsie?

I am sure that everybody else around these parts does.

Ah.....so becoming part of a debate (which is what I thought was the basic idea around these parts,) asking questions and commenting is...............flaming, not trolling. Phew, thank goodness we cleared that up, nappy. It's a jolly good thing you were here to help skippeeee out.

What should I do nappy dear? Not ask questions or make comments. Or should I ask easier questions and more simple comments?

You decide. It's up to you now.

Don't come here and try and turn this thread into a thread about you.
I've posted proof of your sooking in extremist whines where it belongs. Huh

Sorry to those that want to discuss the Republic but Aussie as usual only wants to discuss auuuusssssiiiieee. Huh

Not at all skippeeee. We are all interested to read what your suggested model is, (that's hardly about me.......and who raised something about 'socks? Oh yeas, that was you making it about me, wasn't it skippeee,) given you support that Australia become a republic. So far, you have done everything to make it about me, and you have offered................nada which takes us beyond your skeletal comment that you support a republic. "Put some meat on those moans bones, skippeeee."

and who raised something about 'socks

The socks model is the one we voted on last time, it is the model where the politicians get to select their sock as El President'e and the people have no input.

IMO the worst option and the only one the politicians will accept.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: An Australian republic Reply #152 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:12pm No thank you. I do not want us to become a Republic.
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: An Australian republic Reply #153 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:12pm I just heard Turnbull on the radio,,, sounded like he was pouring some cold water on the push for a Republic. Perhaps Abbot deciding to stay on in Canberra may have something to do with it.
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: An Australian republic Reply #154 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:13pm IMO the worst option and the only one the politicians will accept. Thats what I was trying to explain to Skippy
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61345 Here Gender:	Re: An Australian republic Reply #155 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:14pm miketrees wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:12pm: I just heard Turnbull on the radio,,, sounded like he was pouring some cold water on the push for a Republic. Perhaps Abbot deciding to stay on in Canberra may have something to do with it. Now there is nothing in it for him.
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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: An Australian republic Reply #156 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:16pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:12pm: No thank you. I do not want us to become a Republic. Most of us don't but, eventually, the next generation or the one after that will decide and most of us will be long gone.
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: An Australian republic Reply #157 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:16pm Now there is nothing in it for him. Perzactly,, he is PM and he will not want anything changing.
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Re: An Australian republic
Reply #158 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:18pm

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The socks model is the one we voted on last time, it is the model where the politicians get to select their sock as El President'e and the people have no imput.

I can't remember. I could do a google...but not necessary to my point of view about that. Hayseed gave us options and neither had the support of the States or the Opposition (if I recall.) It was like Armpits polls here. Designed to ensure it was rejected, or driven in one direction.

(Politically) making this inevitable change will not be easy.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: An Australian republic Reply #159 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:19pm Could it be this whole republic nonsense is just another manifestation of Australia's cultural cringe. Could it just be we already have the best system.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: An Australian republic Reply #160 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:20pm Neferti wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:16pm: Most of us don't but, actually, most of us do ... the only reason the referendum was voted down the last time was because of the model that had been proposed ....
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150938 Gender:	Re: An Australian republic Reply #161 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:21pm miketrees wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:19pm: Could it be this whole republic nonsense is just another manifestation of Australia's cultural cringe. Could it just be we already have the best system. No.
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Re: An Australian republic
Reply #162 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:22pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

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The socks model is the one we voted on last time, it is the model where the politicians get to select their sock as El President'e and the people have no imput.

I can't remember. I could do a google...but not necessary to my point of view about that. Hayseed gave us options and neither had the support of the States or the Opposition (if I recall.) It was like Armpits polls here. Designed to ensure it was rejected, or driven in one direction.

(Politically) making this inevitable change will not be easy.

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Re: An Australian republic
Reply #163 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:24pm

miketrees wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:19pm:

Could it be this whole republic nonsense is just another manifestation of Australia's cultural cringe.

Could it just be we already have the best system.

Absolutely nothing wrong with the current model.
An elected Government with a head of state above politics.

Stable, historical to our UK heritage and perfectly fine.

Spend a load of money to change a system that isn't broken?
No thanks.

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Reply #164 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:03pm:

I want a President by popular election.

Our current Head of State isn't elected.

You want our Republic's HOS to be elected by a popular vote, but you have no problem with the current HOS being born into the position.

Why is that?

I don't really understand what you mean by "having no problem" with HOS etc. If you consider Queen Elizabeth the HOS you are stretching a point. She doesn't have any control over Australia legislation. It seems you are nit-picking. The British Crown's part in Australian government has been slowly eroded since 1901. The nominal position that the monarch holds in Australia today is something we have inherited. I don't think accepting that reality is a matter of "having no problem." You can vote for any republic on offer if you wish, but we will only get one shot at it. I will vote for a republic that specifically meets my expectation, none other.

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Question: Do you support a republic
Yes 13 (36.1%) No 14 (38.9%) Yes, but with conditions 9 (25.0%) No because the coins cost too much to change 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 36 « Created by: skippy. on: Jan 26^th, 2016 at 9:06am »