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Reply #15 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:48am  
Mr Morrison must think the voting public are as stupid as Abbott and Hockey took them for....

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Mr Morrison also said government spending above 25 per cent of GDP was unsustainable, insisting efforts to bring the budget into the black were working.

He said plans outlined in the budget to cut expenditure as a percentage of GDP from 25.9 per cent to 25.3 were on track, with a further 10 billion dollars in savings earmarked in the Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook in December.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30644458/tax-changes-to-go-to-election-treasurer/

Nothing has changed!!!

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Reply #16 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:51am  
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:48am:
Mr Morrison must think the voting public are as stupid as Abbott and Hockey took them for....

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Mr Morrison also said government spending above 25 per cent of GDP was unsustainable, insisting efforts to bring the budget into the black were working.

He said plans outlined in the budget to cut expenditure as a percentage of GDP from 25.9 per cent to 25.3 were on track, with a further 10 billion dollars in savings earmarked in the Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook in December.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30644458/tax-changes-to-go-to-election-treasurer/

Nothing has changed!!!

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They counted the PPL as a 10 billion saving to the bottom line , something they never even got the chance to implement is a saving  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #17 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:53am  
Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:47am:
What happended to no new taxs , the Libs werent lying again were they



Was that Tony Abbott? He;s Gone.

Was that a promise from 2013? That's gone.

You want to live in Australia with increasing Social Security costs, Increasing Hospital costs and expect taxes not to go up?

What exactly did TA say?

'On August 16, 2011 Mr Abbott said: "A very clear message is going out from the Australian people to this government: there can be no tax collection without an election.'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-01/fact-file-what-tony-abbott-promised-on-tax...

Seems they are going to an election?
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Reply #18 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:59am  
lee wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:47am:
What happended to no new taxs , the Libs werent lying again were they



Was that Tony Abbott? He;s Gone.

Was that a promise from 2013? That's gone.

You want to live in Australia with increasing Social Security costs, Increasing Hospital costs and expect taxes not to go up?


Your crew of retards killed 2 revenue streams because wait for it they were a burden to families and business , so lets get our stories straight , is the tax rise going to cost more than 550 annually and why dont the Libs have one single major resource project underway under there tenure?
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Reply #19 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:04pm  
Swagman wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:27am:
...tax is just the majority ripping off the minority.

 


I think, you may find that the REALITY is actually the other way around!

Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population, says Oxfam


only higher wages, crackdown on tax dodging and higher investment in public services can stop divide widening.

The vast and growing gap between rich and poor has been laid bare in a new Oxfam report showing that the 62 richest billionaires own as much wealth as the poorer half of the world’s population.

Timed to coincide with this week’s gathering of many of the super-rich at the annual World Economic Forum in Davos, the report calls for urgent action to deal with a trend showing that 1% of people own more wealth than the other 99% combined.

Oxfam said that the wealth of the poorest 50% dropped by 41% between 2010 and 2015, despite an increase in the global population of 400m. In the same period, the wealth of the richest 62 people increased by $500bn (£350bn) to $1.76tn.

The charity said that, in 2010, the 388 richest people owned the same wealth as the poorest 50%. This dropped to 80 in 2014 before falling again in 2015.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-...
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Credit Suisse confirm similar trends!
http://fortune.com/2015/10/14/1-percent-global-wealth-credit-suisse/

The thing is WE are MORE INTERLOCKED, than any other time in history, But with current trends EVERYONE WILL LOSE & THERE WILL BE NO WINNERS!

We desperately need Balance, which means both Revenue & Expenditure are in need of movement!

But, to start with Big Business, Global Business & Religions MUST PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE, WHICH THEY CURRENTLY DON'T!
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Reply #20 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:04pm  
Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:59am:
lee wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:47am:
What happended to no new taxs , the Libs werent lying again were they



Was that Tony Abbott? He;s Gone.

Was that a promise from 2013? That's gone.

You want to live in Australia with increasing Social Security costs, Increasing Hospital costs and expect taxes not to go up?


Your crew of retards killed 2 revenue streams because wait for it they were a burden to families and business , so lets get our stories straight , is the tax rise going to cost more than 550 annually and why dont the Libs have one single major resource project underway under there tenure?



Nice attempt at deflection. Wink
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Reply #21 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:14pm  
lee wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:59am:
lee wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:47am:
What happended to no new taxs , the Libs werent lying again were they



Was that Tony Abbott? He;s Gone.

Was that a promise from 2013? That's gone.

You want to live in Australia with increasing Social Security costs, Increasing Hospital costs and expect taxes not to go up?


Your crew of retards killed 2 revenue streams because wait for it they were a burden to families and business , so lets get our stories straight , is the tax rise going to cost more than 550 annually and why dont the Libs have one single major resource project underway under there tenure?



Nice attempt at deflection. Wink


How is it a deflection , one only need to go back in these pages to see the mouth frothing from the right wing loonies on here about a CT and the savings for families , now less than 2 years later you're entertaining a rise in taxs  Wink cuckoo cuckoo  Cheesy

Edit a rise in taxs thats going to cost wayyyy more than 550 bucks
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Reply #22 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:15pm  
lee wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:59am:
lee wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:47am:
What happended to no new taxs , the Libs werent lying again were they



Was that Tony Abbott? He;s Gone.

Was that a promise from 2013? That's gone.

You want to live in Australia with increasing Social Security costs, Increasing Hospital costs and expect taxes not to go up?


Your crew of retards killed 2 revenue streams because wait for it they were a burden to families and business , so lets get our stories straight , is the tax rise going to cost more than 550 annually and why dont the Libs have one single major resource project underway under there tenure?



Nice attempt at deflection. Wink


I would think it relevant if you want to be crying about the need to increase taxes then it should not be in the same period where you threw away tax income.
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Reply #23 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:18pm  
lee wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 11:47am:
What happended to no new taxs , the Libs werent lying again were they



Was that Tony Abbott? He;s Gone.

Was that a promise from 2013? That's gone.

You want to live in Australia with increasing Social Security costs, Increasing Hospital costs and expect taxes not to go up?

What exactly did TA say?

'On August 16, 2011 Mr Abbott said: "A very clear message is going out from the Australian people to this government: there can be no tax collection without an election.'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-01/fact-file-what-tony-abbott-promised-on-tax...

Seems they are going to an election?


Abbott also said there would be no increase to the GST.

John Howard introduced a 10% GST that he promised would never be able to be increased.
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Reply #24 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:30pm  
GST debate: Scott Morrison backs need for option to raise tax as part of reforms

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Scott Morrison has opened the political new year softening Australians up for an increase in the GST, arguing that reform needs to be on the table if voters want personal income tax relief and a cut to corporate tax to boost economic growth.

I'll just quote the first paragraph here, it sums it up pretty well.

Hockey and Morrison allowed bracket creep to increase the burden of taxation on individuals. Now Morrison is saying that to remove bracket creep, we have to increase the GST.

The agenda is pretty clear: they have been wanting to force an increase in the GST from the very beginning. Even before 2013 election campaign, Abbott let slip the possibility of an increase to the GST. Starving the states of funds was intended to force the states to ask for the increase, and they have not ever ruled out the possibility.

This government wants to transfer more of the burden of taxation from businesses onto individuals.
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Reply #25 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:35pm  
Bam wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 12:30pm:
GST debate: Scott Morrison backs need for option to raise tax as part of reforms

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Scott Morrison has opened the political new year softening Australians up for an increase in the GST, arguing that reform needs to be on the table if voters want personal income tax relief and a cut to corporate tax to boost economic growth.

I'll just quote the first paragraph here, it sums it up pretty well.

Hockey and Morrison allowed bracket creep to increase the burden of taxation on individuals. Now Morrison is saying that to remove bracket creep, we have to increase the GST.

The agenda is pretty clear: they have been wanting to force an increase in the GST from the very beginning. Even before 2013 election campaign, Abbott let slip the possibility of an increase to the GST. Starving the states of funds was intended to force the states to ask for the increase, and they have not ever ruled out the possibility.

This government wants to transfer more of the burden of taxation from businesses onto individuals.


Straight out of the bag of the Libs dirty tricks once again
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Reply #26 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 1:02pm  
For mine, I won't believe one word any of these pack of ars8888oles say.They lied their way into power and will most certainly lie to stay in power. Lee, I really don't understand how you can try to cover up by saying 'that was Abbott'. It was the coalition parties and Morriscum the grub was a senior minister in that coalition. They lied then , they are lying now.
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Reply #27 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 2:14pm  
macman wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
Lee, I really don't understand how you can try to cover up by saying 'that was Abbott'. It was the coalition parties and Morriscum the grub was a senior minister in that coalition. They lied then , they are lying now.



I also pointed out that they said politicians should take tax increases to an election. Do you disagree with that?
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Reply #28 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 3:22pm  
It was the worst of times.... it was the worst of times.... A Tale Of Two Parties......

What chance and choice does the voting public have in the next election?  Morrison will tell us that the economy is 'on track to recovery'and is looking good - if Labor get in they will discover massive 'black holes of Budget', will need to get a few mates in at full found AND $1500 A DAY (INDEXED) to drink coffee and shuffle papers around to come up with the Party line already decided... they'll give us 50/50 and the girls will screech for full PPL for two years out of the public pocket  and 50% women in every area of life apart from those already massively over-occupied by women.. if the LNP get in we'll have our pensions cut, our guts cut out by taxes, our family homes taxed as part of pension, and privatisation and off-shoring of everything until there's nothing left and the only people left standing are them and their mates, who'll all be sucking deeply of our life's blood every day.

We need a new Party NOW!

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Reply #29 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 3:27pm  
lee wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
macman wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
Lee, I really don't understand how you can try to cover up by saying 'that was Abbott'. It was the coalition parties and Morriscum the grub was a senior minister in that coalition. They lied then , they are lying now.



I also pointed out that they said politicians should take tax increases to an election. Do you disagree with that?


Abbott ruled out increasing the GST.
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