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Jeff Bezos lands his rocket 2nd successive time
Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:36pm

So its 100% success in recovery of rocket in 2 attempts. Jeff's rocket looks sexier than Elon Musk's minimalistic looking machine.

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If these “New Space” entrepreneurs are able to reliably recover and reuse rockets, the cost of spaceflight could dramatically decrease, a key step toward realizing their dreams of democratizing space.

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By Christian Davenport
The Washington Post
Two months after Jeff Bezos’ Blue Origin launched a rocket just past the boundary of space and then recovered it in a soft landing, the space company repeated the feat Friday in another breakthrough for the booming commercial space industry.

In a video posted on its website, the company said its New Shepard vehicle made history when it became the first rocket to pass the boundary of space, what’s known as the Karman line, 62 miles high, “and then land vertically upon the Earth” for the second time in a row. Bezos, CEO of Amazon, also owns The Washington Post.

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30900 Gender:	Re: Jeff Bezos lands his rocket 2nd successive time Reply #1 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:47pm Very impressive but I thought you were one of those lunar landing conspirators ?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52503 At my desk.	Re: Jeff Bezos lands his rocket 2nd successive time Reply #2 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:54pm How much will it decrease by? My understanding is that the main cost is associated with the huge amount of energy required to get into space. Taking extra re-usable gear would add to the weight.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Jeff Bezos lands his rocket 2nd successive time Reply #3 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 11:18pm Cool , where they going ?
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Reply #4 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 12:30am

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:54pm:

How much will it decrease by? My understanding is that the main cost is associated with the huge amount of energy required to get into space. Taking extra re-usable gear would add to the weight.

The fuel for retro rockets to reduce by the velocity required would be death to most flights - but it's a start. Landing on low gravity planets like The Moon and Mars are not the same as landing back on Earth, and even the Russians with their massive multi-thrust body rockets didn't try it. The greatest burden to space flight is weight of support and other systems required, all of which must be lifted by the initial fuel load and thus makes of any serious venture a massive effort.

A serious load of crew and equipment would most likely mean the rocket required would never lift off... every pound of weight added, including in extra fuel, increase exponentially the fuel required....

If the retro idea was so good, why would not NASA etc have done it all before?

For this reason - they need to put PAYLOAD into space - not just a rocket.

But I suppose the private sector is more efficient - I can tell that from my power bills and my tollway payments .......

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Jeff Bezos lands his rocket 2nd successive time Reply #5 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:34am The poo-poo brigade has arrived on schedule. If this was Archimedes the poo-poo brigade would have tipped him out of the bath and lynched him.
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30900 Gender:	Re: Jeff Bezos lands his rocket 2nd successive time Reply #6 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:41am Its time wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 11:18pm: Cool , where they going ? Anywhere there are no muzzies and their god gobbing muck
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Reply #7 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:51am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:34am:

The poo-poo brigade has arrived on schedule. If this was Archimedes the poo-poo brigade would have tipped him out of the bath and lynched him.

Get back to me when he puts a substantial payload into orbit and returns that rocket in the same way. The Russians built massive boosters with multiple rockets - still had its limits including the weight of fuel to land again.

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Reply #8 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 10:00am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:34am:

The poo-poo brigade has arrived on schedule. If this was Archimedes the poo-poo brigade would have tipped him out of the bath and lynched him.

The poo-poo brigade arrived via your one man band when you authored this post Roll Eyes

Private or govt. it's all a waste of money when there are so many other pressing matters in need of resolution right here on planet earth.

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Reply #9 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:04pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:51am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:34am:

The poo-poo brigade has arrived on schedule. If this was Archimedes the poo-poo brigade would have tipped him out of the bath and lynched him.

Get back to me when he puts a substantial payload into orbit and returns that rocket in the same way. The Russians built massive boosters with multiple rockets - still had its limits including the weight of fuel to land again.

That's because most of the rocket fuel in the first stage is used to get the rocket above the launch tower Wink

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Reply #10 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 10:52pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 10:00am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:34am:

The poo-poo brigade has arrived on schedule. If this was Archimedes the poo-poo brigade would have tipped him out of the bath and lynched him.

The poo-poo brigade arrived via your one man band when you authored this post Roll Eyes

Private or govt. it's all a waste of money when there are so many other pressing matters in need of resolution right here on planet earth.

Ozpolitic is solving such problems right now without help from Jeff Bezos. The appropriate retail price for farm produce.

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Reply #11 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:33pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:04pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:51am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:34am:

The poo-poo brigade has arrived on schedule. If this was Archimedes the poo-poo brigade would have tipped him out of the bath and lynched him.

Get back to me when he puts a substantial payload into orbit and returns that rocket in the same way. The Russians built massive boosters with multiple rockets - still had its limits including the weight of fuel to land again.

That's because most of the rocket fuel in the first stage is used to get the rocket above the launch tower Wink

Spot on - the hardest part is getting the sucker off the ground..... every payload pound is multiplied..... if I need to say more... the nay-sayers know nothing.

Add XXXXXX pounds of fuel for re-landing........... you either have a massive rocket or no payload....

All the space cadets can get back to me when this guy actually posts a payload and then bring is it all back home. Unless a totally different energy source is found, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

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