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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: French PM starting to wise up. Reply #15 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:37pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:19pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 7:34am: http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr96/Herbert_04/no%20hijabs.png I'm not too sure these soldiers died so that mosques could be built all over Australia. I am. That's because you are a dishonest ijit, PB.
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Reply #16 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm

Soren wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:37pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:19pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 7:34am:

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr96/Herbert_04/no%20hijabs.png

I'm not too sure these soldiers died so that mosques could be built all over Australia.

I am.

That's because you are a dishonest nice person, PB.

Thanks, old boy. I think you're nice too. Can I say that?

Sorry, a nice person.

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Reply #17 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:24pm

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:34pm:

Still, I tend to agree. Religion did have nothing to do with these wars.

Correct.

Not the British nor any of her allies kitted up for war with Germany and Japan with even the slightest notion that they were on a religious crusade.

Same with Hitler's Germany. The killing of the Jews was an afterthought that wasn't even initiated by Hitler. Hitler's war was about lebensraum and the creation of a Greater Germany.

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Reply #18 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:37pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:34pm:

Still, I tend to agree. Religion did have nothing to do with these wars.

Correct.

Not the British nor any of her allies kitted up for war with Germany and Japan with even the slightest notion that they were on a religious crusade.

Same with Hitler's Germany.

But you can believe that the values the GIs and Thommies and even ANZUS fought for were about freedom versus tyranny - not in WWI (the "last imperial war"), but WWII.

Since the winding back of the French revolution, it has been left to the Anglosphere to defend these values, even if it does so in name alone.

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Reply #19 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:49pm

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:34pm:

Still, I tend to agree. Religion did have nothing to do with these wars.

Correct.

Not the British nor any of her allies kitted up for war with Germany and Japan with even the slightest notion that they were on a religious crusade.

Same with Hitler's Germany.

But you can believe that the values the GIs and Thommies and even ANZUS fought for were about freedom versus tyranny - not in WWI (the "last imperial war"), but WWII.

Since the winding back of the French revolution, it has been left to the Anglosphere to defend these values, even if it does so in name alone.

You just don't get it, do you?

99% of those young men who went to war were simple folk who had no care or aptitude for philosophising about what they were being given a rifle for. They just did what they were told - and that was enough for them. In many cases they were lambs to the slaughter in almost the same way as the Jews were lambs to the slaughter.

Your 'noble ideals' philosophising was the last thing on their minds. They simply became herd animals obeying orders from on high.

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Reply #20 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:56pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:49pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:34pm:

Still, I tend to agree. Religion did have nothing to do with these wars.

Correct.

Not the British nor any of her allies kitted up for war with Germany and Japan with even the slightest notion that they were on a religious crusade.

Same with Hitler's Germany.

But you can believe that the values the GIs and Thommies and even ANZUS fought for were about freedom versus tyranny - not in WWI (the "last imperial war"), but WWII.

Since the winding back of the French revolution, it has been left to the Anglosphere to defend these values, even if it does so in name alone.

You just don't get it, do you?

99% of those young men who went to war were simple folk who had no care or aptitude for philosophising about what they were being given a rifle for. They just did what they were told - and that was enough for them. In many cases they were lambs to the slaughter in almost the same way as the Jews were lambs to the slaughter.

Your 'noble ideals' philosophising was the last thing on their minds. They simply became herd animals obeying orders from on high.

But of course. But those speeches delivered from on high were all about the rather quaint, old-fashioned notion of freedom that separated us from the goose-stepping Bosch.

You wouldn't remember, dear. It was before the accident.

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Reply #21 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:04pm

Both my parents were in the Army during WW2. Going by their accounts of when the war broke out 1939, the perception of the enemy was quite different to that of 1914. The Axis and its intentions were quite well known to them, and they knew what the Japs were up to in China. My grandfather, WW1 vintage, spoke German and used to do impersonations of Hitler's speeches which cracked everyone up. Perceptions were mixed until the fall of Singapore. Then it was survival.

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Reply #22 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:11pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:51am:

There wouldn't have been a soldier, sailor, or airman who went to war hoping that one day their children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren would grow up in suburbs where the majority of residents are non-White, Third World, and mosque-builders all glorifying under a non-assimilationist policy of Multi-Nationalism.

They didn't fight for some vague and fuzzy notions of 'freedom' - They wanted to preserve the white European demographics of the Australia they had grown up in as a legacy to be passed on to their future progeny.

No, they wanted to preserve an Australia where people were able to govern themselves and live by their own values. One of which is freedom of religion. There may have been a few that simply wanted to keep a white Australia but we talk for the group, not for a few. Sorry herb, but the reason for fighting wasn't about keeping Australia as white Australia.

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Reply #24 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:16pm

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:04pm:

Both my parents were in the Army during WW2. Going by their accounts of when the war broke out 1939, the perception of the enemy was quite different to that of 1914. The Axis and its intentions were quite well known to them, and they knew what the Japs were up to in China. My grandfather, WW1 vintage, spoke German and used to do impersonations of Hitler's speeches which cracked everyone up. Perceptions were mixed until the fall of Singapore. Then it was survival.

So nothing to do about Muslims or blacks taking over herbs suburb?

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Reply #25 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:23pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:16pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:04pm:

Both my parents were in the Army during WW2. Going by their accounts of when the war broke out 1939, the perception of the enemy was quite different to that of 1914. The Axis and its intentions were quite well known to them, and they knew what the Japs were up to in China. My grandfather, WW1 vintage, spoke German and used to do impersonations of Hitler's speeches which cracked everyone up. Perceptions were mixed until the fall of Singapore. Then it was survival.

So nothing to do about Muslims or blacks taking over herbs suburb?

Well, no. But if they had of known that would happen, they would have joined the other side.

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Reply #26 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:25pm

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:23pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:16pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:04pm:

Both my parents were in the Army during WW2. Going by their accounts of when the war broke out 1939, the perception of the enemy was quite different to that of 1914. The Axis and its intentions were quite well known to them, and they knew what the Japs were up to in China. My grandfather, WW1 vintage, spoke German and used to do impersonations of Hitler's speeches which cracked everyone up. Perceptions were mixed until the fall of Singapore. Then it was survival.

So nothing to do about Muslims or blacks taking over herbs suburb?

Well, no. But if they had of known that would happen, they would have joined the other side.

Well, Japan does do a good job of keeping them out...

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Reply #27 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:42pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:25pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:23pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:16pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:04pm:

Both my parents were in the Army during WW2. Going by their accounts of when the war broke out 1939, the perception of the enemy was quite different to that of 1914. The Axis and its intentions were quite well known to them, and they knew what the Japs were up to in China. My grandfather, WW1 vintage, spoke German and used to do impersonations of Hitler's speeches which cracked everyone up. Perceptions were mixed until the fall of Singapore. Then it was survival.

So nothing to do about Muslims or blacks taking over herbs suburb?

Well, no. But if they had of known that would happen, they would have joined the other side.

Well, Japan does do a good job of keeping them out...

Exactly. And the Krauts did a great job of disposing of them.

Is that the sort of thing the diggers fought for, Herbie?

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Reply #28 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 7:19pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:11pm:

There may have been a few that simply wanted to keep a white Australia but we talk for the group, not for a few. Sorry herb, but the reason for fighting wasn't about keeping Australia as white Australia.

Poppycock with a cherry on top.

The vast majority wanted The Face of Australia to remain as it had been for the past 7 or 8 generations ...(and why the hell wouldn't they?) .. ie. White Europeans of Judaeo-Christian background.

But then the Australian government signed away its national sovereignty and the democratic right of its people to choose whomsoever they wish to be migrants to their homeland.

Bob Hawke later confessed he engineered the 25,000 Chinese refugee influx from northern China without any mandate via a referendum precisely because he knew it would never get passed.

Malcolm Fraser did the same thing with his holus-bolus refugee program from the civil war in Lebanon which opened the gates wide to a mass-influx of Muslims from the Levant. Again, he confessed he didn't put it to a referendum for fear it would be knocked back by the Australian public.

Over and over again our politicians have been making crucial decisions at the behest of the International Socialists at UN headquarters instead of from the Australian people.

And then famously, Bob Menzies said Australians enjoy democracy only on one day every four years.

The demographics of Australia today has had nothing to do with the Australian people having any choice in the matter.

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Reply #29 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 7:22pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 7:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:11pm:

There may have been a few that simply wanted to keep a white Australia but we talk for the group, not for a few. Sorry herb, but the reason for fighting wasn't about keeping Australia as white Australia.

Poppycock with a cherry on top.

The vast majority wanted The Face of Australia to remain as it had been for the past 7 or 8 generations ...(and why the hell wouldn't they?) .. ie. White Europeans of Judaeo-Christian background.

But then the Australian government signed away its national sovereignty and the democratic right of its people to choose whomsoever they wish to be migrants to their homeland.

Bob Hawke later confessed he engineered the 25,000 Chinese refugee influx from northern China without any mandate via a referendum precisely because he knew it would never get passed.

Malcolm Fraser did the same thing with his holus-bolus refugee program from the civil war in Lebanon which opened the gates wide to a mass-influx of Muslims from the Levant. Again, he confessed he didn't put it to a referendum for fear it would be knocked back by the Australian public.

Over and over again our politicians have been making crucial decisions at the behest of the International Socialists at UN headquarters instead of from the Australian people.

And then famously, Bob Menzies said Australians enjoy democracy only on one day every four years.

The demographics of Australia today has had nothing to do with the Australian people having any choice in the matter.

We have a choice, on election day. But which refugees we accept is not a constitutional matter, why would it need a referendum?

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