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Reply #15 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 3:51pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
I am staggered that Palmer has physical capacity to interrupt their access, and deny power and water.


that would apply equally if they were time sharing
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #16 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 3:58pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 3:51pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
I am staggered that Palmer has physical capacity to interrupt their access, and deny power and water.


that would apply equally if they were time sharing


I agree....in any normal situation of like kind.  My difficulty is.............I just do not know.  Neither does the schmedia.  It is obviously a complex legal position, so that means it is for the Court to sort out....not the schmedia, and not the social schmedia.  I agree it is a bad look for Palmer, but the Murdoch Press/Media are always going to paint it that way.
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Reply #17 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 4:14pm
 
'An attempt by Clive Palmer to be able to gain more voting power over the body corporate style entity at Palmer Coolum Resort has been dismissed by the Federal Court.

The Presidents' Club, which represents villa owners, initially applied for the Australian Takeovers Panel (ATP) to prevent Mr Palmer's entities, including Palmer Leisure Coolum Pty Ltd, from gaining more than 20 per cent of voting power.'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-24/clive-palmer-federal-court-bid-against-vil...
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Reply #18 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 4:24pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 4:14pm:
'An attempt by Clive Palmer to be able to gain more voting power over the body corporate style entity at Palmer Coolum Resort has been dismissed by the Federal Court.

The Presidents' Club, which represents villa owners, initially applied for the Australian Takeovers Panel (ATP) to prevent Mr Palmer's entities, including Palmer Leisure Coolum Pty Ltd, from gaining more than 20 per cent of voting power.'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-24/clive-palmer-federal-court-bid-against-vil...


Thanks.  We did already know that.
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Reply #19 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 4:49pm
 
But it isn't just that nasty Murdoch Press. Wink
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Reply #20 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 4:52pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
But it isn't just that nasty Murdoch Press. Wink



Of course, I agree.  It simply reports on the outcome of an initial legal skirmish.
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Reply #21 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 7:28pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 5:54pm:
red baron wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 5:36pm:
Clive's Disaster Central report:   Source Courier Mail

Palmer Coolum Resort villa owners sense victory may be near
January 20, 2016 1:00am
JOHN McCARTHYThe Courier-Mail



THE five-star siege at Clive Palmer’s Coolum resort is heading to a showdown as villa owners living without power and water claim they have victory in their sights.


Mr Palmer’s latest bid in the four-year fight is to wrest control of the body corporate that manages the estate and rid it of residents he has dubbed “squatters’’ and “nuisances’’, including its chairman Chris Shannon.

ESCALATION: Palmer closes gates to Palmer Coolum Resort’s golf course

Mr Palmer’s resolution for an extraordinary general meeting on February 8 is to install his wife, Anna, as body corporate chairwoman and his daughter Emily as treasurer.


Palmer Coolum Resort's only resident Maree Frecklington lives with no electricity, using candlelight and cooking by gas.

The squatters can only refer to Maree Frecklington, who is the last holdout at her part-owned villa in the tennis court estate.

She lives in the dark after Mr Palmer’s company pulled the plug on utilities over a payment dispute. There is no rubbish removal, no power and, for a while, there was no water. “I don’t give up. I never have,’’ Ms Frecklington, 69, said.





I do not know what the legal position is.  No-one other than the parties involved will have even the slightest idea.  I know Clive owns the place so....it is his to do what he wants with, just like you Mr Baron are free to do what you like with your Castle, even turn off the water taps in the Guest bedroom.


I believe they are OWNERS not tenants. Typical of Palmer's bullying. And he wonders why when he is in need of help, nobody gives a damn.
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Reply #22 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 7:38pm
 
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I believe they are OWNERS not tenants.


No-one said they were tenants, not even Clive.

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Typical of Palmer's bullying.


Only here on this Forum have I ever heard that someone who goes to the Law to resolve a dispute is, ipso facto, a bully.

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And he wonders why when he is in need of help,


Excuse me.  Can you produce any evidence that he wonders why 'he' is in need of help?  In this particular terrible circumstance, it is the creditors (including the employees) of a corporation, the sole shareholder of which is Palmer, who need help.

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nobody gives a damn.


Clearly.  You don't give a damn about those creditors.
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Reply #23 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 7:58pm
 
The receivers are talking about selling up his assets to recover costs ... including his planes

so you still think he has a right to call himself a "creditor" and not a "debtor".

It's his company(quote you)

so he's responsible for the debt.
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Reply #24 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 8:21pm
 
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The receivers are talking about selling up his assets to recover costs ... including his planes


Link please?

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so you still think he has a right to call himself a "creditor" and not a "debtor".


I certainly do, and I am quite correct.

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It's his company(quote you)


He is the sole shareholder.......the Company is a totally different legal entity from the shareholders.

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so he's responsible for the debt.


No, he is not.
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Reply #25 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:30pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 4:52pm:
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
But it isn't just that nasty Murdoch Press. Wink



Of course, I agree.  It simply reports on the outcome of an initial legal skirmish.




skirmish.. really??? no power no water charming...

would hate to meet him when hes in a bad mood..

the man is power crazy thinks he can fling everyone a crust and they should accept it.. because of WHO HE IS>.

make that WHO HE THINKS HE IS>.

this is aussie doing his everything in his power not to face reality.....

palmer has been switching roles for at least 12 months.. putting his wife and elder daughter in charge.....making them directors...while he runs around under a different name... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


how desperate are these people???

I would say very DESPERATE...

Bondy and Skase eat your heart out..these folks are making you look like choir boys.



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Reply #26 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:55pm
 
Clive hasn't been the same since he found out that Krispy Kreme wasn't coming to his neighborhood  Cry
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Reply #27 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 4:49pm
 
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/clive-palmers-surprising-question...


not sure Clives number one supporter is getting what he paid for.. Grin Grin Grin Grin

but at least he turned up on the 1st day... he only turned up for 54% of the sittings last year.. and only 64% the year before... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

surely there is a fine for non attendance???>.

odd that hes more worried about how many women are in the Liberal govt...

when he doesnt seem all that moved by the women the men sacked from his Nickel mining business  will no longer be able to support.... Angry Angry
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Reply #28 - Feb 4th, 2016 at 3:40pm
 
Palmer explains it all on Lateline:

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Reply #29 - Feb 4th, 2016 at 4:43pm
 
Palmer letter to Turnbull.  Let's see what Turnbull says now.

Dear Prime Minister

RE: Queensland Nickel Pty Ltd

Notwithstanding your or my comments in the press about the above matter, I am duty bound to write to you to make it absolutely clear so that you have the relevant facts of the matter.

In 2009, when BHP Billiton had decided to close the facility and devastate the North Queensland economy, the world nickel price was higher than US$7 per pound. Today, the world nickel price is US$3.80 per pound and the plant is still in operation, employing directly over 550 people and providing a further 1600 jobs from its activities to the people of Townsville.

In 2009, following discussion with the then labor Queensland Premier Anna Bligh, companies that I own agreed to inject tens of millions of dollars for the acquisition of Queensland Nickel and to operate it more efficiently and continue to impact the employment of thousands of people.

The productivity gained in the plant’s operations is the best achieved in any manufacturing facility in Australia, where the cost of production has halved in comparison to the cost of production under the former BHP management. The excellent work carried out by the management of Queensland Nickel has allowed over $4bn to be invested in North Queensland since 2009.

As you are aware, the management and workers of the plant can only concentrate on their cost base. As a 100% export plant, they are totally dependent upon the world commodity prices. During our meeting late last year in Sydney, I made you aware that the Nickel price had collapsed since October 2015.

The company’s auditors, Ernst & Young, signed an auditor’s report including solvency of the company in September 2015. At that time it was my understanding the company had projected a surplus of $73m for the year and, in the audited accounts, had a net asset base of $1.95bn and no substantial debt. It was reasonable to assume that a banking institution would have funded a small amount of debt on the balance sheet. For reasons best known to the Treasurer, they failed to do so.

In contrast to the Australian Government’s attitude in respect of our metals manufacturing industry, the Canadian Government has waived all charges for power and electricity for all their metals manufacturers due to the low commodity prices. The Chinese Government has provided CNY$30,000,000,000 directly to its metals manufacturing industry. It is disappointing that the Australian Government on this issue is more interested in taking cheap political shots against a management team that has worked so hard to achieve a positive outcome for the company and the country that the Australian Government has obfuscated its duty to ensure there is a level playing field for Australian manufacturers under the World Trade Organisation.

Other Issues

Whilst there have been other issues raised in the press, we have to remember that 22,000 jobs have been lost in Queensland in the resource industry because of declining resource prices, international manipulation of those prices and the failure of the government to even be alive to these issues. These are issues for which the Australian Government refuses to take any actions necessary to counterbalance the effect of these measures on our economy.

The media coverage of this matter has been politicised without addressing the real issues. From a policy perspective, there has been the redundancy of 237 workers in Townsville which has had the effect of preserving jobs for the 550 workers that are still employed directly by Queensland Nickel and jobs for the 1600 workers that depend upon the refinery operations in Townsville.

I have been informed that on the Thursday, when redundancies were carried out, each employee of Queensland Nickel was immediately paid two weeks wages in advance pending final calculation of their entitlements in accordance with the Fair Work Act.

During the period when calculating their entitlements, the director of the company, in accordance with obligations under corporation law, appointed an administrator to the company. That administrator then made the determination that workers’ entitlements would not be paid under the administrators and would be subject to a deed of arrangement. Neither the shareholders nor the management had any decision making powers over such matters and it is therefore very unreasonable for there to be any attack politically on the management of the company pending the outcome of the administrators’ report. There can be no doubt that in the years from 2009 onwards, when the company was subject to audit, that it met all solvency tests as certified by the company auditor.

There has been substantial comment by your ministers that raised the question whether a private family-owned company, which is certified as being fully solvent, has the right to donate funds to the political party of its choosing. As you should be aware, in the years prior to 2013, the political party which you lead, was the beneficiary of substantial donations from Queensland Nickel Pty Ltd. I have heard no such criticism in respect to those donations. Moreover, it is not reasonable or proper to make comments in respect of matters that are subject to any administrators’ report while that report is being compiled.

As you are aware, as I have publicly stated at the time following my election to the federal parliament, I have retired from business. I am concerned with the decline
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