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What the Poor dont understand about the Rich
Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:55pm

or, possibly, why lefties shoot themselves in the foot when they call for higher taxes on the rich Wink

What do the rich really want?
certainly not more money.
they already have enough of that.
so they dont want more money to spend it, they accumulate more money to "keep score"
The rich want honor and respect. they want to be able to walk into a room full of strangers and be recognised as someone who matters.

The lefts solution is just that we should tax the rich more.

But this does not grasp the real motivation of the rich

the rich pursue money because money in capitalism is the source of "honour"

if you try to tax the rich, they will just take their money and move.

The better strategy is to "seduce' the rich.
Honour them for their benevolence.

Honour is a powerful motivator,
soldiers will die for a victoria cross (honour)
scientists will slave away an entire life for a nobel prize (honour).

yet where is the honour offered to the rich (who are largely hated upon)

there is NO system to reward the rich for doing what we want them to do....

treat their workers well and produce safe useful and environmentally friendly products .

Society should do a deal with capitalists. it should givbe them the honour (and love) they so desperately want .

you see capitalists are narcistists and ambitious.

Set up a scheme for them being honoured for looking after their workers and the planet and they will do it.

This isnt even a revolutionary idea.

Adam Smith, one of the founders of capitalism recognised that people have 2 main motivations, the love of money and the love of glory .
so rather then wait for the rich to grow halo's, how much more sensible to seduce them with the most powerful of desires....the desire to be loved.

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Re: What the Poor dont understand about the Rich
Reply #3 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:06pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

or, possibly, why lefties shoot themselves in the foot when they call for higher taxes on the rich Wink

What do the rich really want?
certainly not more money.
they already have enough of that.
so they dont want more money to spend it, they accumulate more money to "keep score"
The rich want honor and respect. they want to be able to walk into a room full of strangers and be recognised as someone who matters.

The lefts solution is just that we should tax the rich more.

But this does not grasp the real motivation of the rich

the rich pursue money because money in capitalism is the source of "honour"

if you try to tax the rich, they will just take their money and move.

The better strategy is to "seduce' the rich.
Honour them for their benevolence.

Honour is a powerful motivator,
soldiers will die for a victoria cross (honour)
scientists will slave away an entire life for a nobel prize (honour).

yet where is the honour offered to the rich (who are largely hated upon)

there is NO system to reward the rich for doing what we want them to do....

treat their workers well and produce safe useful and environmentally friendly products .

Society should do a deal with capitalists. it should givbe them the honour (and love) they so desperately want .

you see capitalists are narcistists and ambitious.

Set up a scheme for them being honoured for looking after their workers and the planet and they will do it.

This isnt even a revolutionary idea.

Adam Smith, one of the founders of capitalism recognised that people have 2 main motivations, the love of money and the love of glory .
so rather then wait for the rich to grow halo's, how much more sensible to seduce them with the most powerful of desires....the desire to be loved.

What? No horse story? You're an imposter.

What have you done with the REAL Aquascoot?

Tongue

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Re: What the Poor dont understand about the Rich
Reply #4 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:27pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:57pm:

Oh christ I needed that laugh aquascoot.

You are a lefty loser, but loser is probably not really the right word, a better word may be non achiever or underachiever but lets just say loser for now as this is a familiar term, now being a loser isn't necessarily a bad thing, if you want to be a loser you should be able to be a loser, not everyone wants to pursue a bucket of money and thats fair enough.

Unfortunately for losers though there are winners and as long as their are winners around they make losers look bad, even if the losers want to be losers and are quite comfortable in being losers it doesn't matter, they still look bad.

This is where socialism comes in, socialism is revenge of the losers, in a socialist society everyone is a loser and in fact the winners in a free society become the biggest losers in a socialist society because they have a lot more to lose.

Now Enter loser BH, in a socialist society he would be the biggest loser and in a society of losers he would be very comfortable with this, in fact it would likely increase his standing in the community, and this is why losers are so determined to get rid of winners ... because winners make them look bad.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: What the Poor dont understand about the Rich Reply #6 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:30pm I'm rich, it's called happiness in my new predicament, which I worked hard to achieve. But both the rich Libs and the poor Labs keep trying to wipe the smile off my face, why would that be ? They simply don't want happy people, just compliant slaves to their way of dictatorial mind processors
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Re: What the Poor dont understand about the Rich
Reply #7 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

The lefts solution is just that we should tax the rich more.

But this is not even a solution. It just grows the government, grows the bureaucracy, grows the red tape, all the while doing nothing to re balance accumulated wealth - everybody loses.

But they still support it, only because it is punitive against high achievers. They're already miserable, so are willing to tolerate a little bit more misery, if it means their superiors are going to suffer more misery.

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Re: What the Poor dont understand about the Rich
Reply #8 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:36pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

or, possibly, why lefties shoot themselves in the foot when they call for higher taxes on the rich Wink

What do the rich really want?
certainly not more money.
they already have enough of that.
so they dont want more money to spend it, they accumulate more money to "keep score"
The rich want honor and respect. they want to be able to walk into a room full of strangers and be recognised as someone who matters.

The lefts solution is just that we should tax the rich more.

But this does not grasp the real motivation of the rich

the rich pursue money because money in capitalism is the source of "honour"

if you try to tax the rich, they will just take their money and move.

The better strategy is to "seduce' the rich.
Honour them for their benevolence.

Honour is a powerful motivator,
soldiers will die for a victoria cross (honour)
scientists will slave away an entire life for a nobel prize (honour).

yet where is the honour offered to the rich (who are largely hated upon)

there is NO system to reward the rich for doing what we want them to do....

treat their workers well and produce safe useful and environmentally friendly products .

Society should do a deal with capitalists. it should givbe them the honour (and love) they so desperately want .

you see capitalists are narcistists and ambitious.

Set up a scheme for them being honoured for looking after their workers and the planet and they will do it.

This isnt even a revolutionary idea.

Adam Smith, one of the founders of capitalism recognised that people have 2 main motivations, the love of money and the love of glory .
so rather then wait for the rich to grow halo's, how much more sensible to seduce them with the most powerful of desires....the desire to be loved.

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Re: What the Poor dont understand about the Rich
Reply #9 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:39pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

or, possibly, why lefties shoot themselves in the foot when they call for higher taxes on the rich Wink

What do the rich really want?
certainly not more money.
they already have enough of that.
so they dont want more money to spend it, they accumulate more money to "keep score"
The rich want honor and respect. they want to be able to walk into a room full of strangers and be recognised as someone who matters.

The lefts solution is just that we should tax the rich more.

But this does not grasp the real motivation of the rich

the rich pursue money because money in capitalism is the source of "honour"

if you try to tax the rich, they will just take their money and move.

The better strategy is to "seduce' the rich.
Honour them for their benevolence.

Honour is a powerful motivator,
soldiers will die for a victoria cross (honour)
scientists will slave away an entire life for a nobel prize (honour).

yet where is the honour offered to the rich (who are largely hated upon)

there is NO system to reward the rich for doing what we want them to do....

treat their workers well and produce safe useful and environmentally friendly products .

Society should do a deal with capitalists. it should givbe them the honour (and love) they so desperately want .

you see capitalists are narcistists and ambitious.

Set up a scheme for them being honoured for looking after their workers and the planet and they will do it.

This isnt even a revolutionary idea.

Adam Smith, one of the founders of capitalism recognised that people have 2 main motivations, the love of money and the love of glory .
so rather then wait for the rich to grow halo's, how much more sensible to seduce them with the most powerful of desires....the desire to be loved.

What? No horse story? You're an imposter.

What have you done with the REAL Aquascoot?

Tongue

Yes, I am quite suspicious.
Come on Aqua, placate us.
Say "it's just like a horse that wins .........."

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Re: What the Poor dont understand about the Rich
Reply #10 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

or, possibly, why lefties shoot themselves in the foot when they call for higher taxes on the rich Wink

What do the rich really want?
certainly not more money.
they already have enough of that.
so they dont want more money to spend it, they accumulate more money to "keep score"

self-contradictory

The rich want honor and respect.

earn it by your behaviour

they want to be able to walk into a room full of strangers and be recognised as someone who matters. as what - a vulture or a decent caring human being?

The lefts solution is just that we should tax the rich more.

But this does not grasp the real motivation of the rich

the rich pursue money because money in capitalism is the source of "honour"

and in that pursuit they forsake all honour. as jumped-up peasants they have no understanding of the word

if you try to tax the rich, they will just take their money and move.

then someone else will have a go - who cares?

The better strategy is to "seduce' the rich.
Honour them for their benevolence.

if indeed they have any

Honour is a powerful motivator,
soldiers will die for a victoria cross (honour)
scientists will slave away an entire life for a nobel prize (honour).

do not compare men of honour with business people - unless those busines people have earned it

yet where is the honour offered to the rich (who are largely hated upon)

where did they earn it

there is NO system to reward the rich for doing what we want them to do....

treat their workers well and produce safe useful and environmentally friendly products .

they are rewarded by their profits and their perks

Society should do a deal with capitalists. it should give them the honour (and love) they so desperately want .

why? They don't offer it to anyone else...

you see capitalists are narcistists and ambitious.

Set up a scheme for them being honoured for looking after their workers and the planet and they will do it.

no - they will not

This isnt even a revolutionary idea.

Adam Smith, one of the founders of capitalism recognised that people have 2 main motivations, the love of money and the love of glory .
so rather then wait for the rich to grow halo's, how much more sensible to seduce them with the most powerful of desires....the desire to be loved.

You need seriously to stop reading that beta male sh!t. Lower yourselves to offering free honour to some beta loser who would be nothing without you and without more than a fair go that you most likely do not receive, and thus make of yourself a beta to a beta loser with no other talent.

K - Ryst!

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Re: What the Poor dont understand about the Rich
Reply #11 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:55pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:39pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

or, possibly, why lefties shoot themselves in the foot when they call for higher taxes on the rich Wink

What do the rich really want?
certainly not more money.
they already have enough of that.
so they dont want more money to spend it, they accumulate more money to "keep score"
The rich want honor and respect. they want to be able to walk into a room full of strangers and be recognised as someone who matters.

The lefts solution is just that we should tax the rich more.

But this does not grasp the real motivation of the rich

the rich pursue money because money in capitalism is the source of "honour"

if you try to tax the rich, they will just take their money and move.

The better strategy is to "seduce' the rich.
Honour them for their benevolence.

Honour is a powerful motivator,
soldiers will die for a victoria cross (honour)
scientists will slave away an entire life for a nobel prize (honour).

yet where is the honour offered to the rich (who are largely hated upon)

there is NO system to reward the rich for doing what we want them to do....

treat their workers well and produce safe useful and environmentally friendly products .

Society should do a deal with capitalists. it should givbe them the honour (and love) they so desperately want .

you see capitalists are narcistists and ambitious.

Set up a scheme for them being honoured for looking after their workers and the planet and they will do it.

This isnt even a revolutionary idea.

Adam Smith, one of the founders of capitalism recognised that people have 2 main motivations, the love of money and the love of glory .
so rather then wait for the rich to grow halo's, how much more sensible to seduce them with the most powerful of desires....the desire to be loved.

What? No horse story? You're an imposter.

What have you done with the REAL Aquascoot?

Tongue

Yes, I am quite suspicious.
Come on Aqua, placate us.
Say "it's just like a horse that wins .........."

a horse has a very small logical brain but a very large reactive brain.
as you train it, your aim is always to reduce the reactive and increase the logical.

humans really have no excuse, they have a very large logical brain.

if they cant see that a soldier is willing to lay down his life for little money but for the glory of his sacrifice.
if they cant see that a scientist is willing to work his entire life for little money but for the glory of a discovery.

they should be able to see that very motivated ,ambitious and intelligent people (ie the Rich) can easliy be persuaded, seduced or even tricked into being benevolent, IF and ONLY IF society gives them the adulation for their benevolence that they so deeply crave.

if you think that the accumulation of mega wealth is anything but a neurosis that we need to help the rich deal with, if you think hating them will somehow change them, you truly have work to do on your logic.

the rich are like horses in some ways.
you cant out muscle them, you can only out think them Wink

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Reply #13 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 3:16pm

Actually the most common refrain from Victoria Cross winners is that they did their job and any one of their mates would have done the same. It's often a matter of circumstances.....

Our latest SAS VC boys are all humble, and acknowledge that anyone else could have done the same under the circumstances. They generally do not try to go out to win medals.

I like that line from the old Trooper in Band of Brothers:-

"Grampa, were you a hero?"

"No - but I served with a company of heroes."

That's more what it's all about.

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Re: What the Poor dont understand about the Rich
Reply #14 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 3:30pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:55pm:

if they cant see that a soldier is willing to lay down his life for little money but for the glory of his sacrifice.
if they cant see that a scientist is willing to work his entire life for little money but for the glory of a discovery.

You are forgetting that most of the left devote their whole life to the pursuit of stupidity and what recognition or thanks do they receive, very little.

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