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Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site?
Reply #15 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:27am

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:22am:

Yet your title says 'ABC's online News site'

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"Compare it to the UK's online Daily Mail which has a score of fresh news stories and magazine-pieces every 24 hours of the year".

Try not to get your jollies by being a gadfly and a pest all the time, per favore.

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Reply #16 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:29am

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:22am:

So do you subscribe to the DT Herb to read all these columnists?

No, he wants them for free. If they worked for the ABC he'd be telling us it was money well spent. Cheesy

Well he sings their praises, I am trying to establish if he has actually read them in the DT?

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Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site?
Reply #17 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:33am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:22am:

So do you subscribe to the DT Herb to read all these columnists?

No, he wants them for free. If they worked for the ABC he'd be telling us it was money well spent. Cheesy

Well he sings their praises, I am trying to establish if he has actually read them in the DT?

Yes.

And the local vets will confirm that I regularly take them piles of read DT papers for their pet cages.

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Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site?
Reply #18 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:34am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:22am:

So do you subscribe to the DT Herb to read all these columnists?

No, he wants them for free. If they worked for the ABC he'd be telling us it was money well spent. Cheesy

Well he sings their praises, I am trying to establish if he has actually read them in the DT?

Yes.

And the local vets will confirm that I regularly take them piles of read DT papers for their pet cages.

The best place for them I agree Herb, under all the sh1t!

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Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site?
Reply #19 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:35am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:22am:

Yet your title says 'ABC's online News site'

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"Compare it to the UK's online Daily Mail which has a score of fresh news stories and magazine-pieces every 24 hours of the year".

Try not to get your jollies by being a gadfly and a pest all the time, per favore.

so your title was just a troll to get people to bite?

you are good at it.

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Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site?
Reply #20 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:47am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:34am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

And the local vets will confirm that I regularly take them piles of read DT papers for their pet cages.

The best place for them I agree Herb, under all the sh1t!

Grin

Even while I was writing that I knew there might be .. er ... 'repercussions' .

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150449 Gender:	Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site? Reply #22 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:17pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Their news service is okay, but The Drum is one big lefty w*nk fest. Yep. I don't see the problem.
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Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site?
Reply #23 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:20am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:14am:

I think one problem the ABC has, is that is too big. Too many platforms.

It costs a billion dollars of the taxpayers' hard-earned cash each year. It's nothing but the propaganda arm of the Labor Party - just as is the BBC in the UK and CNN in the US.

and no matter how much evidence to the contrary is thrown your way, you'll keep repeating this rubbish won't you? If anything the ABC leans to the right.

To the right? You need to watch Q and A. They even pad the audience to the left.

But Herb's "nothing but propaganda" is flat out wrong. ABC has some high quality programming that has nothing to do with politics.

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Reply #24 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:36pm

issuevoter wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:20am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:14am:

I think one problem the ABC has, is that is too big. Too many platforms.

It costs a billion dollars of the taxpayers' hard-earned cash each year. It's nothing but the propaganda arm of the Labor Party - just as is the BBC in the UK and CNN in the US.

and no matter how much evidence to the contrary is thrown your way, you'll keep repeating this rubbish won't you? If anything the ABC leans to the right.

To the right? You need to watch Q and A. They even pad the audience to the left.

But Herb's "nothing but propaganda" is flat out wrong. ABC has some high quality programming that has nothing to do with politics.

pad the audience? Grin

audience numbers are shown before every episode, and they're always evenly split. There was another thread last week showing how the ABC had stopped reporters from questioning Turnbulls NBN. If that isn't leaning to the right, nothing is

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Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site?
Reply #26 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 9:14pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

The same stories are listed down the page, day after day after day.

Bone-bloody-lazy.

Compare it to the UK's online Daily Mail which has a score of fresh news stories and magazine-pieces every 24 hours of the year.

When are we every going to get someone with the guts to close down the ABC all together?

I have brought this subject up myself before, a news site with a virtually unlimited budget that provides a worse service than free sites, if we went in there and smashed up their coffee machines they would be out of action for months.

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Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site?
Reply #28 - Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 9:06am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

The same stories are listed down the page, day after day after day.

Bone-bloody-lazy.

Compare it to the UK's online Daily Mail which has a score of fresh news stories and magazine-pieces every 24 hours of the year.

When are we every going to get someone with the guts to close down the ABC all together?

I agree, but the ABC is not in the business of online media. It's a national broadcaster.

Online is the business model of the UK Daily Mail. They'll be closing the presses down in a few years and publishing solely online.

There are other influences in the ABC's funding of online news. One of them is the panic that exists in the private media. Media owners like Murdoch see the entry of the national broadcasters into online news as unfair competition, and yes, people do tend to go to national broadcasters for important news. I would not be surprised if this view is shared by some on the ABC board. I would not be surprised if it influences funding.

The UK Daily Mail is no comparison - this is a private tabloid. You'd do better to compare ABC online to the BBC.

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Re: How pathetic is the ABC's online News site?
Reply #29 - Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 9:45am

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 9:06am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

The same stories are listed down the page, day after day after day.

Bone-bloody-lazy.

Compare it to the UK's online Daily Mail which has a score of fresh news stories and magazine-pieces every 24 hours of the year.

When are we every going to get someone with the guts to close down the ABC all together?

I agree, but the ABC is not in the business of online media. It's a national broadcaster.

Online is the business model of the UK Daily Mail. They'll be closing the presses down in a few years and publishing solely online.

There are other influences in the ABC's funding of online news. One of them is the panic that exists in the private media. Media owners like Murdoch see the entry of the national broadcasters into online news as unfair competition, and yes, people do tend to go to national broadcasters for important news. I would not be surprised if this view is shared by some on the ABC board. I would not be surprised if it influences funding.

The UK Daily Mail is no comparison - this is a private tabloid. You'd do better to compare ABC online to the BBC.

Thanks for that, Karnal - very good post with points to contemplate there.

I'm wondering if 'National Broadcasters' - be it in the UK or here, haven't simply gone past their Use By Date and are now heading at a rapid rate towards redundancy due to the many-and-varied alternative news sources available on the 'Web.

I really don't quite understand what purpose they serve any more, besides being an employment hub for a few hundred luvvies with Bachelors in literature, journalism, or Media Studies.

It's become a One Billion Dollar employment agency for a Chosen Few.

There was a time when these NB's were supposed to - (but rarely ever did) - represent an impartial, non-partisan, middle-of-the-road news service that was politically neutral and acceptable to both the Left and Right of the political divide.

That original 'mission statement' and Manifesto has increasingly been trampled upon and booted into the bleachers ever since whole troops of Leftwing activist journalists started coming off the university production-lines like so many sausages after the Second World War.

" In the past four years Government funding has risen by more than $165 million, or 20 per cent, to a record $1024 million"

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"The ABC received A$1,030 million in the May 2012-13 federal budget, supplemented by an additional A$158.2 million from commercial and other income streams".

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One billion dollars per year is an obscene amount of taxpayer's hard-earned cash just for keeping this dinosaur from collapsing and burying its rat's nest of liberal-progressive luvvies.

I want my money back.

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