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Reply #60 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:47pm

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they don't go looking to Australian farmers if they can avoid it

Like when they are unable to supply demand? Or are you saying they are racist and would undermine their business to fulfill their racism?

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If they run out in the meantime, they don't stock it.

So they are so racist they would rather not stock an item than buy it from local farmers?

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nothing imaginary about it. They control over 3/4's of the market in this country. If you don't think that gives them an unfair advantage than I can't help you.

It gives them an aweful lot to lose to the companies carving out the other 1/4.

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In the case of Uber, the one word answer is...yes.

Are you sure Aussie? Is it only in the case of uber?

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Reply #61 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:00pm

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Are you sure Aussie? Is it only in the case of uber?

Questions....questions....always with the questions, you are. How about you get off the fence, and either announce your position or answer questions put to you?

Count the question marks in your last post.

In four posts, five question marks.

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Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much?
Reply #62 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:05pm

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

Like when they are unable to supply demand? Or are you saying they are racist and would undermine their business to fulfill their racism?

racist? ... they're looking at their long term goals, that's all ... if creating a shortage means they get import restrictions eased further down the track, they'd be all to happy to do it. I know I would if I were in their position.

As for undermining their business, they do it all the time. Just up the road from me is a Coles. They are building a new Coles approx. 400m further up the road. When the manager was asked if they would shut down the first store once the new one opened, a staff member was told that they would keep both going, even if it meant one would lose money. Their reason? They didn't want to leave the space vacant for a competitor to take up.

You don't think that's undermining their business FD? Knowingly running a store at a loss? It's a loss they are prepared to take for the long term benefits. Same rule applies to their freezing out aussie farmers, they're prepared to take short term losses, if it means bigger profits long term.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52501 At my desk.	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #63 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:13pm Quote: if creating a shortage means It isn't a shortage if ALDI, IGA etc are stocking them. Remember, this is all down to your fantasy of farmers going out of business at the same time as there being unmeetable demand for their product.
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Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much?
Reply #64 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:14pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

Like when they are unable to supply demand? Or are you saying they are racist and would undermine their business to fulfill their racism?

racist? ... they're looking at their long term goals, that's all ... if creating a shortage means they get import restrictions eased further down the track, they'd be all to happy to do it. I know I would if I were in their position.

As for undermining their business, they do it all the time. Just up the road from me is a Coles. They are building a new Coles approx. 400m further up the road. When the manager was asked if they would shut down the first store once the new one opened, a staff member was told that they would keep both going, even if it meant one would lose money. Their reason? They didn't want to leave the space vacant for a competitor to take up.

You don't think that's undermining their business FD? Knowingly running a store at a loss? It's a loss they are prepared to take for the long term benefits. Same rule applies to their freezing out aussie farmers, they're prepared to take short term losses, if it means bigger profits long term.

Same thing Uber does. It is losing money hand over fist.....even says so in its Prospectus. All the grubs want to do is create a false market or manipulate (disrupt) the market, and then go public...rake in investor Mums and Dads who will go broke.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #65 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:16pm freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:13pm: It isn't a shortage if ALDI, IGA etc are stocking them. are they?
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Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much?
Reply #66 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:19pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:13pm:

It isn't a shortage if ALDI, IGA etc are stocking them.

are they?

Are you asking me to provide evidence on the finer details of your fantasy? I am not criticising your argument because the evidence isn't there. I am criticising it because it makes no sense.

If you were running ALDI, IGA, or one of the many smaller grocers, and you noticed coles and woolies were not stocking an in-demand item despite farmers having some to sell to you, what would you do?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #67 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:28pm no, I'm asking you to prove the finer details of your fantasy ... afterall, you claimed the were stocking things that Coles and woolies weren't . By the way, I never said that Aldi and Metcash weren't a party to the same tactics used by the big two ...
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Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much?
Reply #68 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

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Are you sure Aussie? Is it only in the case of uber?

Questions....questions....always with the questions, you are. How about you get off the fence, and either announce your position or answer questions put to you?

Count the question marks in your last post.

In four posts, five question marks.

You should get off this thread, arsie and stop making everything about YOU ... this thread is about FRUIT AND VEGIES and has nothing, whatsoever, to do with UBER or taxi drivers. So POQ. Grin

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Reply #69 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:30pm

Neferti wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

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Are you sure Aussie? Is it only in the case of uber?

Questions....questions....always with the questions, you are. How about you get off the fence, and either announce your position or answer questions put to you?

Count the question marks in your last post.

In four posts, five question marks.

You should get off this thread, arsie and stop making everything about YOU ... this thread is about FRUIT AND VEGIES and has nothing, whatsoever, to do with UBER or taxi drivers. So POQ. Grin

Go away Nappy. The adults are talking.

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Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much?
Reply #70 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:28pm:

no, I'm asking you to prove the finer details of your fantasy ... afterall, you claimed the were stocking things that Coles and woolies weren't .

What things are we talking about? You brought it up. You said coles and woolies were not stocking 'things' despite there being demand for them. You can substitute any item you want and your argument would still be stupid.

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By the way, I never said that Aldi and Metcash weren't a party to the same tactics used by the big two ...

So now it's a four party duopoly, with Aldi and IGA conspiring to maintain the larger market share held by coles and woolies?

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Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much?
Reply #71 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:37pm

Neferti wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

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Are you sure Aussie? Is it only in the case of uber?

Questions....questions....always with the questions, you are. How about you get off the fence, and either announce your position or answer questions put to you?

Count the question marks in your last post.

In four posts, five question marks.

You should get off this thread, arsie and stop making everything about YOU ... this thread is about FRUIT AND VEGIES and has nothing, whatsoever, to do with UBER or taxi drivers. So POQ. Grin

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Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much?
Reply #72 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:44pm

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

You said coles and woolies were not stocking 'things' despite there being demand for them

yes ... and YOU said that Aldi and Metcash were ... I merely asked you if they really were? Is your comment true or did you make it up?

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

So now it's a four party duopoly, with Aldi and IGA conspiring to maintain the larger market share held by coles and woolies?

I said it was a virtual duopoly. Are you suggesting that Aldi and IGA aren't benefiting from the big twos push to ease import restrictions?

By the way, I didn't mention market share, you did. I said profits.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #74 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 5:34pm I know in the Perth markets at Canning Vale some time ago now,,, but if the supermarkets did not buy at one market they knew they would get stuff cheap at the next market.
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