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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #15 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:22pm Where are you, what do you want to grow?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41273 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #16 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:38pm brisbane, I have killed grevilleas, even a choko has perished under my torment
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #17 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 9:11pm I accept your chalenge
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41273 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #18 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:07pm Do they want water ever ?
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #19 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:08am Do they want water ever ? I think I just found the problem
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Reply #20 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:54am

again, we can have a "better' form of capitalism ONLY when the CONSUMER changes his habits.

there is absolutley nothing stopping consumers going to farmers markets instead of to the Big 2.

if the consumer decides , by his own free will, to shop at the big 2, he bears the responsibilty for the consequences.

Whilst i am no expert on fruit and veges, my sense is that the farmers co ops will increasingly look to asian markets to make a profit.

In the same way that norco and bulla are gearing up to produce powdered milk and stop the $1 a litre loss leading of the big 2, i would imagine SPC /ardmona will gear up to produce a range of soft pack and long life high quality fruits to be sold into asia and bypass the price gouging.

in the end, the consumer will suffer , but as it is totally the fault of the consumer, this is well deserved suffering Wink

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Reply #21 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 3:12pm

The consumer suffers because supermarkets have no capacity to look after customers, they never listen to quality issues.
They buy on price mainly and durability of the product.
Green tasteless product lasts a bit longer, less shrinkage.
Picking fruit green is cheaper for the grower, just rip them off the tree, never mind.
If you are getting paid low prices you have to cut costs

When I started selling direct, I had to pull some varieties out because the customers did not like them,,, and they let me know.

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Reply #22 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 3:17pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:54am:

again, we can have a "better' form of capitalism ONLY when the CONSUMER changes his habits.

there is absolutley nothing stopping consumers going to farmers markets instead of to the Big 2.

if the consumer decides , by his own free will, to shop at the big 2, he bears the responsibilty for the consequences.

Whilst i am no expert on fruit and veges, my sense is that the farmers co ops will increasingly look to asian markets to make a profit.

In the same way that norco and bulla are gearing up to produce powdered milk and stop the $1 a litre loss leading of the big 2, i would imagine SPC /ardmona will gear up to produce a range of soft pack and long life high quality fruits to be sold into asia and bypass the price gouging.

in the end, the consumer will suffer , but as it is totally the fault of the consumer, this is well deserved suffering Wink

Sounds like horse sense from a demented clydesdale. Do horses practice ventriloquism on their servants?

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Reply #23 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 3:24pm

miketrees wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 3:12pm:

The consumer suffers because supermarkets have no capacity to look after customers, they never listen to quality issues.
They buy on price mainly and durability of the product.
Green tasteless product lasts a bit longer, less shrinkage.
Picking fruit green is cheaper for the grower, just rip them off the tree, never mind.
If you are getting paid low prices you have to cut costs

When I started selling direct, I had to pull some varieties out because the customers did not like them,,, and they let me know.

and thats what stope the taste.. dont you think mike.. picking it early....it has no taste or smell...

as a kid I could smell the fruit and veggies just walking in the door..what we buy today is a disgrace.. and its not the farmers fault.. I hold the supermarkets to blame..we are sitting ducks..for badness.... we keep buying it and going back for more.....

why anyone thinks they grow fruit and veggies all year round I will never know.....my cherry tree has fruit on it for about 2 weeks..the rest of the year you wouldnt it is fruit tree..

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #24 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 6:18pm .the rest of the year you wouldnt it is fruit tree.. Thats right, you have to be on your game growing fruit, stuff something up for a few days and you loose a year.
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Reply #25 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:50pm

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 3:24pm:

as a kid I could smell the fruit and veggies just walking in the door..what we buy today is a disgrace.. and its not the farmers fault.. I hold the supermarkets to blame..we are sitting ducks..for badness.... we keep buying it and going back for more.....

You could always go to a decent fruit shop instead. There are also quite a few "Farmer's Markets" in the suburbs where some of the produce at least appears to be direct from the growers.

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Reply #26 - Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 9:07am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Another problem created by leftards

How you might ask?

Labor spent $15B+ on illegals in it's 6 years of government. In 2016 Australia is still paying for the ALP and Greens stupidity. Compare this to $200M by the Howard government.

This money could have been used on helping our farmers

oops, forgot the $1Bn Howard spent on the so–called Pacific Solution? Tax payers’ money used in a pretend solution to help him win an election.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Fruit And Vegies - Why Do They Cost So Much? Reply #27 - Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 9:11am If you want cheaper, better, fresher food patronise Farmers Markets not “super”markets. Or grow it yourself.
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Reply #28 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:38am

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 9:49am:

Oranges this year are ridiculously expensive. Why? Because the big 2 have over the years forced the closure of most of our orchards with cheap imports, so now demand is much much higher than they can supply.

Crap. Australia is a net food exporter. If this was true, the price being received by farmers would skyrocket.

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Reply #29 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:40am

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:38am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 9:49am:

Oranges this year are ridiculously expensive. Why? Because the big 2 have over the years forced the closure of most of our orchards with cheap imports, so now demand is much much higher than they can supply.

Crap. Australia is a net food exporter. If this was true, the price being received by farmers would skyrocket.

Net food exporter? I'm not talking sheep and cattle here.
A lot of our traditional crops are being dug out because the farmers can't compete with cheaper imports.

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