Australian Politics Forum - Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy

Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy Reply #15 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:15pm Was subsidizing the car industry costing the taxpayer more than having a substantial amount people out of a job and effectively shutting down an entire industry? What effects did Howards tariff reductions have on the industry?
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Reply #16 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:17pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:38am:

stunspore wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:35am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:11am:

Car workers are unionised.

And? Business have their business groups. Defence force have their unions. Government sectors do. Retail/Health/etc do. AMA is similar to one.

The AMA doesn't demand 6 additional 'training weeks' for union organisers in car companies and then demand that one in 5 be a union organiser.

But of course, none of this added to the cost of making a car right? That was all the fault of Turnbull and the next Liberal PM and the one after that.

Nor does having a top heavy management structure on a sizeable portion of wage bill.

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Reply #17 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:30pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:35am:

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the displacement of the 200,000 automotive workers he in effect sacked

Disgraceful.

It is disgraceful that we can't manufacture cars on a commercial basis. Priced out of the market by greedy unions and old fashioned industrial relations policies.

Perhaps the unions should buy the plants if they think they're viable?

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Reply #18 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:46pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:35am:

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the displacement of the 200,000 automotive workers he in effect sacked

Disgraceful.

It is disgraceful that we can't manufacture cars on a commercial basis. Priced out of the market by greedy unions and old fashioned industrial relations policies.

Perhaps the unions should buy the plants if they think they're viable?

and yet Germany's car industry is thriving despite being just as unionised. Cheesy

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy Reply #19 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:51pm John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:46pm: and yet Germany's car industry is thriving despite being just as unionised. ...and without Australian taxpayer's asssistance
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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy Reply #20 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:52pm In a secret room at lib headquarters .... "Yes, now that we got rid of car manufacturing that's less unions and union members...onto the next target..."
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy Reply #21 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:53pm Swagman wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:51pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:46pm: and yet Germany's car industry is thriving despite being just as unionised. ...and without Australian taxpayer's asssistance no, they use german taxpayers assistance.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy Reply #22 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:54pm Swagman wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:30pm: Perhaps the unions should buy the plants if they think they're viable? .....you and your comrades can all invest your own hard earned in this Smithy. Good luck attracting investors.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy Reply #23 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:56pm ....Fairfax media might chip in
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy Reply #24 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:14pm Swagman wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:56pm: ....Fairfax media might chip in Does Turnbulls innovation policy involve any taxpayers money Swag?
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy Reply #25 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:18pm What actually is the Libs plan for these workers when it all shuts down ?
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Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy
Reply #26 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 2:07pm

Its time wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

What actually is the Libs plan for these workers when it all shuts down ?

The creation of viable jobs that aren't a leech on the tax-payer.

Unemployment is trending down despite what Fairfax propaganda implies.

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MEDIA RELEASE

14 January 2016

Strong trend growth in Australia's employment continues

The Australian of Bureau of Statistics (ABS) reported that the strong trend growth in employment has continued.

"The trend shows that around 312,000 more people were employed in December 2015 than in December 2014. Full-time employment growth was stronger than part-time over the year, increasing by 186,600 people," said Bruce Hockman, General Manager of ABS' Macroeconomic Statistics Division.

The increase in employment has contributed to the trend employment to population ratio rising over the year from 60.6 per cent to 61.4 per cent, while the unemployment rate has decreased over the year from 6.2 per cent to 5.8 per cent.

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Reply #27 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 2:26pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

What actually is the Libs plan for these workers when it all shuts down ?

The creation of viable jobs that aren't a leech on the tax-payer.

Unemployment is trending down despite what Fairfax propaganda implies.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/job%20vacancies.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/unemploy.jpg

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MEDIA RELEASE

14 January 2016

Strong trend growth in Australia's employment continues

The Australian of Bureau of Statistics (ABS) reported that the strong trend growth in employment has continued.

"The trend shows that around 312,000 more people were employed in December 2015 than in December 2014. Full-time employment growth was stronger than part-time over the year, increasing by 186,600 people," said Bruce Hockman, General Manager of ABS' Macroeconomic Statistics Division.

The increase in employment has contributed to the trend employment to population ratio rising over the year from 60.6 per cent to 61.4 per cent, while the unemployment rate has decreased over the year from 6.2 per cent to 5.8 per cent.

That's a great result, but not what I asked.

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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: Governments Car Crash Of An Automotive Policy Reply #28 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 3:00pm A nice stats - but how does it correlates to underemployment? You could get more employment figures by converting a full time job into 2 part-time jobs. Or something similar in such a way that it gets counted as full-time even though it isn't 38 hours.
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Reply #29 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 3:07pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

What actually is the Libs plan for these workers when it all shuts down ?

The creation of viable jobs that aren't a leech on the tax-payer.

Unemployment is trending down despite what Fairfax propaganda implies.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/job%20vacancies.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/unemploy.jpg

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MEDIA RELEASE

14 January 2016

Strong trend growth in Australia's employment continues

The Australian of Bureau of Statistics (ABS) reported that the strong trend growth in employment has continued.

"The trend shows that around 312,000 more people were employed in December 2015 than in December 2014. Full-time employment growth was stronger than part-time over the year, increasing by 186,600 people," said Bruce Hockman, General Manager of ABS' Macroeconomic Statistics Division.

The increase in employment has contributed to the trend employment to population ratio rising over the year from 60.6 per cent to 61.4 per cent, while the unemployment rate has decreased over the year from 6.2 per cent to 5.8 per cent.

Who would've thought just dumping sloppy and abort would inspire so much confidence Cheesy

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