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Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:10pm
 
Overhauling political donation laws: what a great new election year's resolution
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As this election year gets under way, we’ll go through an annual ritual that is supposed to enhance our faith in the political system. Except everyone knows it’s a sham.

Sure, there’s lots of useful information in the February disclosure of donations to political parties from the Australian Electoral Commission.

But we also know it’s very easy for a donor to retain anonymity. Parties and donors only need to declare donations over $13,000. By donating just under that amount to each state and territory branch a donor could give more than $100,000 and remain in the shadows.

And anyway the companies, unions and individuals whose generosity is reported all insist they are motivated by an altruistic desire to help the functioning of our democracy, and in no way by an expectation that they are buying influence or access to decision makers.

That may be true. Except we keep getting examples where it isn’t. Like the 2008 Wollongong council scandal in which donations were made in return for favourable development decisions. That led to a New South Wales ban on donations from property developers in 2009. But six years later the Independent Commission Against Corruption heard evidence that NSW Liberal figures circumvented the state ban by “washing” money through the federally controlled Free Enterprise Foundation.

The NSW premier, Mike Baird, has written to his federal colleagues asking that they work on a national system similar to the NSW laws, which include a $1,000 threshold for donations to be disclosed and caps on total allowable donations. National laws would mean the state laws could no longer be circumvented. That led to ... well, so far that’s led to absolutely nothing. Baird raised it at the dinner before the last Council of Australian Governments meeting in December, but he didn’t get far.

Perhaps it’s just a coincidence that last year’s federal financial disclosures showed property developers and investors among the biggest donors to the major parties.

The truth is every political party knows the system has to change. The cost of election campaigns has increased beyond their capacity to pay. They are forced to effectively beg for funds and that leaves them potentially dangerously beholden to corporate interests and, in the case of the Labor party, to the union movement. But the fear that any change might advantage an opponent – and the risk of a public backlash against higher rates of public funding, which is the only possible funding source – has stymied reform for decades.

A former Liberal party president and treasurer, Shane Stone, recommended in 2007 that all corporate, trade union and third party donations be banned.

And Labor’s elder statesman John Faulkner warned for years that the cost of electioneering had created a campaigning “arms race”, “heightening the danger that fundraising pressures on political parties and candidates will open the door to donations that might attempt to buy access and influence”.

He said the current system was pernicious even if the donors weren’t actually demanding political favours.

“The perception of undue influence can be as damaging to democracy as undue influence itself,” he said in his Light on the Hill lecture in 2014.

“It undermines confidence in our processes of government, making it difficult to untangle the motivation behind policy decisions. Electors are left wondering if decisions have been made on their merits.”

There have been numerous parliamentary reviews, the latest set up in October at the urging of independent senator John Madigan. Its first act was to write to the government asking why there had been no response to the last inquiry, which was finalised in 2011.

The major parties came incredibly close to an agreement in the last parliament to increase public funding by $1 a vote (it is $2.62 for all parties or candidates that get more than 4% of the vote) and to reduce thresholds for declaring donations back down to $5,000. Tony Abbott had even signed the deal but after a backlash from his party room he reneged and it all fell apart.

Labor still supports a reduction in the disclosure threshold to $1,000, with caps on donations and campaign spending, extra public funding and nationally consistent laws.

The Greens have long championed change. Baird has the backing of other premiers.

And in the current parliament both major party leaders have something to gain from breaking the decades-long deadlock and actually agreeing on change.

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Reply #1 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:10pm
 
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Malcolm Turnbull championed donations reform when he was first elected, remarkably similar to that suggested by Labor and Baird.

“No political donations should be allowed unless they are: from citizens and/or persons on the electoral roll (ie no companies, unions, associations etc); subject to a cap; and donors should certify that the donation is either their own or their spouse’s money and has not been given to them by a third party,” he wrote at the time.

And he sought the Liberal leadership in 2015 by pledging to restore voters’ trust and confidence in the political process. This would be a very good way to do it.

Bill Shorten is battling the evidence to the royal commission about the influence of unions over his party. But the truth is Labor is deeply dependent on union donations. Implementing party policy for a cap and tougher disclosure rules could work for Shorten too.

Opponents often argue that cracking down on donations disclosure would just mean the rise of single issue or legislation-specific spending, like the “pacs” that operate in the US.

But that wouldn’t be all that different from the campaigns the mining industry or the union movement or various other business groups have run already. And at least things would be in the open – the interest groups would be clearly spending their money in support of a particular policy outcome and putting their names to their arguments.

I’ve even got an idea for where the cash for the extra public funding could come from.

After the 2013 election political parties and candidates were eligible for a total of $58m – it was then $2.48 a vote. Adding $1 a vote wouldn’t cost much more than the advertising campaigns governments run in election years which are really political but are dressed up as government advertising to qualify for taxpayer funding.

The Turnbull government is conducting “research” before an $18m advertising campaign about infrastructure. It’s unclear exactly what they will advertise. Turnbull overturned Abbott’s roads-only obsession and said he would also give money to public transport. And some of the old prime minister’s pledges haven’t really weathered the test of time. The $1.5bn for the now-abandoned Melbourne East West link, for example, was found by the audit office to have been handed over despite warnings that it had not been properly assessed and was not yet even needed.

The Turnbull government is also planning to spend $28m advertising innovation. In late 2014 the Abbott government spent almost $10m advertising higher education changes that were never legislated, in the hope that they might be. And this is not a new racket. Both sides have done it forever.

The official guidelines say advertising “must not be conducted for party political purposes” but also that “governments may legitimately use public funds to ... encourage informed consideration of issues or to change behaviour”.

If they were tightened so only the explanation of new legislation or a new program qualified as official government advertising, the millions being spent on back-door political advertising could be used to increase public funding to the parties. They would probably use it for actual political advertising, which would be more effective for them anyway.

And a combination of stricter disclosure rules for donations and an end to political ads dressed up as government information might actually enhance voters’ faith in the system.
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Reply #2 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:38pm
 
And anyway the companies, unions and individuals whose generosity is reported all insist they are motivated by an altruistic desire to help the functioning of our democracy, and in no way by an expectation that they are buying influence or access to decision makers.

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Reply #3 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 11:09pm
 
I don't care as long as the tax-payer doesn't have to pay for it.
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Reply #4 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 11:18pm
 
If turncoat bans political donations even I'll vote for him ..... but he won't do it
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Reply #5 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 5:30am
 
'I don't care as long as the tax-payer doesn't have to pay for it'.

Exactly the right wing attitude that fosters the corrupt ' brown paper bag' thinking in the liberal party.
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Reply #6 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 5:33am
 
Time to overhaul political donations

That was probably about 30 years ago but better late then never.
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Reply #7 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:29pm
 
its also time was looked at regards to advertising..

how after do we get bombarded quite often by UNTRUTHS. in advertising paid for by either a  business or a Union  or people who we havent a clue about.....

these ads on TV and in the newspapers cost a fortune....

lets have the buggers have debates...at least we are not forced to watch them....

but all other ads.. unless put up by the party should not be allowed......

I cant afford to put my opinions out there like that..

maybe some on here can...

but its an advantage that  those with the means can take..its not fair.
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Reply #8 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:34pm
 
macman wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 5:30am:
'I don't care as long as the tax-payer doesn't have to pay for it'.

Exactly the right wing attitude that fosters the corrupt ' brown paper bag' thinking in the liberal party.


Why should my tax pay for anyone's election campaign?  Pay for it yourself.

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Reply #9 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:46pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:34pm:
macman wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 5:30am:
'I don't care as long as the tax-payer doesn't have to pay for it'.

Exactly the right wing attitude that fosters the corrupt ' brown paper bag' thinking in the liberal party.


Why should my tax pay for anyone's election campaign?  Pay for it yourself.



I would prefer to pay for it knowing when these policy decisions are made its for the consumer and not for  powerful constituencies , how can you say with any conviction this is the case when you have these companies and individuals donating huge sums to political parties . I am no illusion its not the government of the day running any country.
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Reply #10 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 1:03pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:34pm:
macman wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 5:30am:
'I don't care as long as the tax-payer doesn't have to pay for it'.
Exactly the right wing attitude that fosters the corrupt ' brown paper bag' thinking in the liberal party.

Why should my tax pay for anyone's election campaign?

The current system is riddled with "donations" in exchange for "favours". The most dubious conduct in the past 15 years involved donations from the Calabrian Mafia, when Vanstone gave favours to them to stop Mafia boss Madafferi being deported to Italy.
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In the lead-up to the 2004 election, Tony Madafferi organised a fundraiser for the Liberal party in Melbourne where Amanda Vanstone, who by then had replaced Ruddock as immigration minister, was speaking. He donated $15,000 to the Liberal party’s Millennium Forum at that event, Four Corners said.

In November 2005, Vanstone intervened in Frank Madafferi’s deportation case and had it overturned. She and other politicians involved in the decision stated it was prompted by humanitarian concerns for Madafferi’s family should he be deported, not any donations or lobbying efforts. A police report into the case found there was no suggestion that Vanstone had acted corruptly or inappropriately.

You do realise how small the amounts are for the pool of taxpayer-funded campaigns? $58 million. If we doubled that to $116 million, that would still work out to less than $2 per person per year.

Are you seriously whining about a tax impost of 4 cents a week?
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Reply #11 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 1:22pm
 
Typical socialists! You want money, especially to maintain or gain political power, steal it from the taxpayers (or coerce it from the workers).

If the parties of the left have such a great message to convey, they won't go short of donations from the public, including business who after all have a vested interest in a stable & prosperous society.
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Reply #12 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 1:31pm
 
Maybe, It should be like a HECS debt.  The politician should have to pay it off from their pay.  But I guess they'd all just vote themselves a pay rise.  Roll Eyes

Just Ochlocracy in practice.  People voting themselves cash from the public purse.

All ok when it's a minority that pays for the majority of it, and can't overrule it, because as a minority, they are unrepresented.

The irony is not lost.

The minority that pays the majority of tax, pays for the majority of the campaign funding for the very politicians that enslave them....... Sad

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Reply #13 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 4:24pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 11:18pm:
If turncoat bans political donations even I'll vote for him ..... but he won't do it


Turnbull won't need your vote. If the ALP were starved entirely of union donations then they couldnt run an internet ad, nevermind a TV election campaign.  I don't know why you are all so desperate to get rid of political donations since it will totally destroy any chance a new party has if getting started and make the ALP virtually unheard.  Remember that the coalition gets nearly 35% more of the vote than the ALP which if funding were on a per-vote basis would mean the Libs would get far more funding.

A bright little labor-supporter (do they exist) would not want the end of political donations and anyone wanting a new party might as well throw the idea away entirely.
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Reply #14 - Jan 16th, 2016 at 4:26pm
 
Its time wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:46pm:
Swagman wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:34pm:
macman wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 5:30am:
'I don't care as long as the tax-payer doesn't have to pay for it'.

Exactly the right wing attitude that fosters the corrupt ' brown paper bag' thinking in the liberal party.


Why should my tax pay for anyone's election campaign?  Pay for it yourself.



I would prefer to pay for it knowing when these policy decisions are made its for the consumer and not for  powerful constituencies , how can you say with any conviction this is the case when you have these companies and individuals donating huge sums to political parties . I am no illusion its not the government of the day running any country.


I think you forgot to include the over-powering influence of the unions on the ALP or does undue influence only matter when it is no the other side of the political divide?
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