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Reply #105 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:08pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

Emma, please......

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By belittling this young creeps's offensive actions,

Exactly what did he do?

He is alleged to have committed attempted rape on two of these young women. The only way those charges would be brought is if the police believed he had tried to penetrate these young women. You will notice not all of them have accused him of doing so and that they are allegations of sexual assault, not rape. But... two have obviously claimed exactly that or the police would not have brought on rape charges.

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Reply #107 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:14pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

Emma, please......

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By belittling this young creeps's offensive actions,

Exactly what did he do?

He is alleged to have committed attempted rape on two of these young women. The only way those charges would be brought is if the police believed he had tried to penetrate these young women. You will notice not all of them have accused him of doing so and that they are allegations of sexual assault, not rape. But... two have obviously claimed exactly that or the police would not have brought on rape charges.

So.....it is all speculation at the moment?

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Reply #108 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:14pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:48pm:

oh shut up you drama queen. He copped a feel. It's not out of touch, As far as the story in the OP goes, it's exactly what he did. Like i said, your only problem is that he is Pakistani. Copping feel doesn't work for you because it's not emotive enough.

John, most of these girls were 15, under the age of consent. If he went in for a bit of digital penetration, it's a bit more than copping a feel, it's rape, unless of course he just wanted to cop a feel of her cervix... It's not a pinch on the bum, a slap on the thigh.

John doesn't care. There's a strong possibility the perpetrator is a muslim and so John will automatically leap to his defence without thinking.

It's disgraceful really.

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Reply #109 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:17pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

Emma, please......

Quote:

By belittling this young creeps's offensive actions,

Exactly what did he do?

He is alleged to have committed attempted rape on two of these young women. The only way those charges would be brought is if the police believed he had tried to penetrate these young women. You will notice not all of them have accused him of doing so and that they are allegations of sexual assault, not rape. But... two have obviously claimed exactly that or the police would not have brought on rape charges.

So.....it is all speculation at the moment?

Aussie, I doubt it, you know they are all allegations until proven in a court of law. 11 young women have testified these things were done to them by this umm... defendant. No, it's not speculation, it allegation and with so many saying he did these things, well, I for one I don't like his chances.

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Reply #110 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:18pm

Wait a minute! I thought I would never get the opportunity to cite this one.

There is precedent. Here is a case of not guilty to accidental rape:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/millionaire-ehsan-abdulaziz-who-said-...

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A millionaire property developer has been cleared of raping a teenager after claiming he accidently tripped and fell on her.

Ehsan Abdulaziz, 46, was accused of forcing himself on an 18 year-old-girl who had slept on his sofa in his Maida Vale flat after a night out drinking.

The businessman had already had sex with the teenager’s 24-year-old friend, whom he already knew, in the bedroom and said his penis might have been poking out of his underwear when he fell on the teen.

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The young woman said she had woken up in the early hours of the morning, with Mr Abdulaziz on top of her, forcing himself inside her.

He claimed he had gone to see if the young woman wanted a t-shirt to sleep in, or a taxi home. But he said she pulled him on top of her and placed his hand between her legs.

His semen and DNA was found inside the young woman, but he said it was possible he had semen on his hands from having sex with the 24-year-old earlier.

In the evidence, Mr Abdulaziz showed how the girl had put her hand behind his head to pull him towards her, which is how he says he fell.

He said: “I’m fragile, I fell down but nothing ever happened, between me and this girl nothing ever happened.”

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Reply #111 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:20pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

Emma, please......

Quote:

By belittling this young creeps's offensive actions,

Exactly what did he do?

He is alleged to have committed attempted rape on two of these young women. The only way those charges would be brought is if the police believed he had tried to penetrate these young women. You will notice not all of them have accused him of doing so and that they are allegations of sexual assault, not rape. But... two have obviously claimed exactly that or the police would not have brought on rape charges.

So.....it is all speculation at the moment?

Aussie, I doubt it, you know they are all allegations until proven in a court of law. 11 young women have testified these things were done to them by this umm... defendant. No, it's not speculation, it allegation and with so many saying he did these things, well, I for one I don't like his chances.

That is what I am after. What exactly is it alleged he actually physically did?

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Reply #112 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:20pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:18pm:

Wait a minute! I thought I would never get the opportunity to cite this one.

There is precedent. Here is a case of not guilty to accidental rape:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/millionaire-ehsan-abdulaziz-who-said-...

Quote:

A millionaire property developer has been cleared of raping a teenager after claiming he accidently tripped and fell on her.

Ehsan Abdulaziz, 46, was accused of forcing himself on an 18 year-old-girl who had slept on his sofa in his Maida Vale flat after a night out drinking.

The businessman had already had sex with the teenager’s 24-year-old friend, whom he already knew, in the bedroom and said his penis might have been poking out of his underwear when he fell on the teen.

READ MORE
James Deen says he's 'baffled' by rape claims, issues further denial
The young woman said she had woken up in the early hours of the morning, with Mr Abdulaziz on top of her, forcing himself inside her.

He claimed he had gone to see if the young woman wanted a t-shirt to sleep in, or a taxi home. But he said she pulled him on top of her and placed his hand between her legs.

His semen and DNA was found inside the young woman, but he said it was possible he had semen on his hands from having sex with the 24-year-old earlier.

In the evidence, Mr Abdulaziz showed how the girl had put her hand behind his head to pull him towards her, which is how he says he fell.

He said: “I’m fragile, I fell down but nothing ever happened, between me and this girl nothing ever happened.”

Imagine the chances of doing that to 11 women in a night? Talk about bad luck, what are the chances?

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Reply #113 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:21pm

As Karnal ( i think) said earlier..
the waves !! It was the waves.

They were so strong..!! that he couldn't help but put his fingers into the girls bikini bottoms, and try to hold on. What a frikkin' pathetic bad piece of puke.

He was washed up against the other girls by the waves..!!
It was a calm day on the beach.

IMO Too bad he didn't drown, 'cos I guarantee this wee man will do it all again, multiple times, given the chance.

Which is why I am concerned the MEDIA have little comment today. The prick is probably a member of an influential Pakistani family, and will walk, BUT I sincerely hope not.
Because if he walks on this, it shows what a farce our legal system is. Angry

HE MUST GO TO TRIAL.!!!

Nothing else is reasonable, in this context.!! Angry

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Reply #114 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:24pm

Emma wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

As Karnal ( i think) said earlier..
the waves !! It was the waves.

They were so strong..!! that he couldn't help but put his fingers into the girls bikini bottoms, and try to hold on. What a frikkin' pathetic bad piece of puke.

He was washed up against the other girls by the waves..!!
It was a calm day on the beach.

IMO Too bad he didn't drown, 'cos I guarantee this wee man will do it all again, multiple times, given the chance.

Which is why I am concerned the MEDIA have little comment today. The prick is probably a member of an influential Pakistani family, and will walk, BUT I sincerely hope not.
Because if he walks on this, it shows what a farce our legal system is. Angry

HE MUST GO TO TRIAL.!!!

Nothing else is reasonable, in this context.!! Angry

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How do you know that? I have been asking....okay.....I'll beg.....what

exactly

is it that he is supposed to have done?

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Reply #115 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:25pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

That is what I am after. What exactly is it alleged he actually physically did?

The allegation is he felt up 9 of them in a way that the police would consider sexual assault(titty touching, groping, etc), the other two allegations are attempted rape, as I said before, they can only really be for attempted digital penetration in the circumstances. There is no other explanation that I can see. Feel free to wait for more info but I think the article has enough info to read what he is alleged to have done.

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Reply #116 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:28pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

That is what I am after. What exactly is it alleged he actually physically did?

The allegation is he felt up 9 of them in a way that the police would consider sexual assault(titty touching, groping, etc), the other two allegations are attempted rape, as I said before, they can only really be for attempted digital penetration in the circumstances. There is no other explanation that I can see. Feel free to wait for more info but I think the article has enough info to read what he is alleged to have done.

READ it aussie.

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Reply #118 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:33pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

That is what I am after. What exactly is it alleged he actually physically did?

The allegation is he felt up 9 of them in a way that the police would consider sexual assault(titty touching, groping, etc), the other two allegations are attempted rape, as I said before, they can only really be for attempted digital penetration in the circumstances. There is no other explanation that I can see. Feel free to wait for more info but I think the article has enough info to read what he is alleged to have done.

So.....no-one knows yet, and despite that, the lynch mob are out for Mr Smith because that is how he has been debating the issue......we do not know. Others are doing the usual maximisation of drama and, yet it could boil down to a boob grope, a touch on the bum or perhaps some fingers around the area of the swim suit which was worn over two separate vaginas.

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Reply #119 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:38pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

That is what I am after. What exactly is it alleged he actually physically did?

The allegation is he felt up 9 of them in a way that the police would consider sexual assault(titty touching, groping, etc), the other two allegations are attempted rape, as I said before, they can only really be for attempted digital penetration in the circumstances. There is no other explanation that I can see. Feel free to wait for more info but I think the article has enough info to read what he is alleged to have done.

READ it aussie.

Read what? There has been

not one link

put up in this Thread which sets out the particulars of the alleged offences, or for that matter to support what is set out in the OP. That is why I am asking for some facts.

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