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Re: Rogue union bosses targeted
Reply #15 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:30am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:17am:

half your luck ... I have to go fix a broken toilet Cheesy

I guess this forum isn't the only thing that can't handle your crap, eh? Wink

I'll give Armpit one, that was funny. For once, armpit made a funny. Wow. I never thought I'd see the day...

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Reply #16 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:37am

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:37am:

Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

the problem is that unions do not behave like corporations and politicians. they are particulary rogue. stronger regulations and laws are always imposed on groups that will not otherwise do the right thing.

unions and their actions are to blame for being 'singled out'

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Reply #17 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:39am

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:40am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:37am:

Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?

No, I do not.

Nor do I think it is OK for criminals to run companies or be elected to parliament. Yet the law currently allows that.

If we ban criminals from holding offices in unions, we must also ban criminals from holding any office of responsibility, including being directors of companies or being elected to Parliament.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

thats not true. BEHAVIOUR must be equal for everyone, but if a particular group is not going to comply without stringent regulation then such things are more than fine.

all unions have to do is to obey the law and not bully or be corrupt. But they wont do that ergo, special laws to control them,

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Reply #18 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:44am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:39am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:40am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:37am:

Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?

No, I do not.

Nor do I think it is OK for criminals to run companies or be elected to parliament. Yet the law currently allows that.

If we ban criminals from holding offices in unions, we must also ban criminals from holding any office of responsibility, including being directors of companies or being elected to Parliament.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

thats not true. BEHAVIOUR must be equal for everyone, but if a particular group is not going to comply without stringent regulation then such things are more than fine.

all unions have to do is to obey the law and not bully or be corrupt. But they wont do that ergo, special laws to control them,

How is any of what you said different for industry groups, lobby groups, think tanks, corporations, etc?

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Reply #19 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:46am

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:40am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:37am:

Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?

No, I do not.

Nor do I think it is OK for criminals to run companies or be elected to parliament. Yet the law currently allows that.

If we ban criminals from holding offices in unions, we must also ban criminals from holding any office of responsibility, including being directors of companies or being elected to Parliament.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

Actually, you can't be in parliament if you're a convicted criminal.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61237 Here Gender:	Re: Rogue union bosses targeted Reply #20 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:48am Swagman wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:34am: ....apparently Unions pay the fines of its officials that break the law? Therefore there is no deterrent in imposing fines. More corruption. You think it isn't the same with businesses except that nobody bothers to catch them for the same type of behaviour.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61237 Here Gender:	Re: Rogue union bosses targeted Reply #21 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:52am Rogue union bosses targeted Instead of trying to fix the problem looks like Turdbull is determined to play politics with it.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61237 Here Gender:	Re: Rogue union bosses targeted Reply #22 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:57am Rogue union bosses targeted The regulation looks like it would mostly apply to union people who are not rogue at all. There is nothing in the suggested legislation that would go anywhere near limiting it to either rogues or bosses.
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Re: Rogue union bosses targeted
Reply #23 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 9:18am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:40am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:37am:

Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?

No, I do not.

Nor do I think it is OK for criminals to run companies or be elected to parliament. Yet the law currently allows that.

If we ban criminals from holding offices in unions, we must also ban criminals from holding any office of responsibility, including being directors of companies or being elected to Parliament.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

Actually, you can't be in parliament if you're a convicted criminal.

Incorrect (once again).

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Rogue union bosses targeted Reply #24 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 9:22am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:23am: John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:17am: half your luck ... I have to go fix a broken toilet I guess this forum isn't the only thing that can't handle your crap, eh? Wholly chit armpit did funny
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Re: Rogue union bosses targeted
Reply #25 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 9:56am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:17am:

half your luck ... I have to go fix a broken toilet Cheesy

I guess this forum isn't the only thing that can't handle your crap, eh? Wink

keep guessing ... the problem is with where the water goes in, not where the sh1t goes out.

You can add that to the billion other things you consistently get wrong on this forum

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Reply #26 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 9:59am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:39am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:40am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:37am:

Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?

No, I do not.

Nor do I think it is OK for criminals to run companies or be elected to parliament. Yet the law currently allows that.

If we ban criminals from holding offices in unions, we must also ban criminals from holding any office of responsibility, including being directors of companies or being elected to Parliament.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

thats not true. BEHAVIOUR must be equal for everyone, but if a particular group is not going to comply without stringent regulation then such things are more than fine.

Now you know why corporations are tightly regulated. Grin

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:39am:

all unions have to do is to obey the law and not bully or be corrupt. But they wont do that ergo, special laws to control them,

Incorrect. The main problem is an inconsistency of law. Simply making the laws consistent for all organisations will do a lot to fix these problems.

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Reply #27 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 10:01am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:40am:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:37am:

Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?

No, I do not.

Nor do I think it is OK for criminals to run companies or be elected to parliament. Yet the law currently allows that.

If we ban criminals from holding offices in unions, we must also ban criminals from holding any office of responsibility, including being directors of companies or being elected to Parliament.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.

Actually, you can't be in parliament if you're a convicted criminal.

That's going to be a big surprise to Wilson Tuckey. Cool

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Re: Rogue union bosses targeted
Reply #28 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 10:01am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 8:39am:

BEHAVIOUR must be equal for everyone, but if a particular group is not going to comply without stringent regulation then such things are more than fine.

really? so what stringent regulations did they bring in for the AWB? Or for the brown paper bag brigade in NSW? what about Getax?

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89846 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Rogue union bosses targeted Reply #29 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 10:04am Rogue union bosses not targeted Fixed for ya....... Why is it, do you think, that only UNION bosses are targeted, unless this is an ideological war.
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