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Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:01am
 
ROGUE union bosses who deliberately flout the law will be targeted in beefed-up laws to regulate trade unions.

The Turnbull Government is considering 79 recommendations made by the royal commission in its final report to improve union transparency and accountability.

But two recommendations that would impose penalties on dodgy individuals and ban them from holding office are expected to be key features of the Government’s revised Registered Organisations Bill, which has been rejected by the Senate twice.

The proposals — aimed at militant construction union the CFMEU — will also prevent unions using membership fees to pay the fines for rogue officers who break the law.

Victoria Police claims union officials are wearing fines as “badges of honour” as there are no laws which stops unions paying the fines imposed on their officers.

The new legislation will come before the Senate when Parliament resumes in February. The Government will also reintroduce a Bill to re-establish a construction watchdog.

If that Bill is rejected again it would hand the Government a possible double dissolution trigger, which it will need to go to an election before mid-July.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has vowed fight an election on the reforms, sparking renewed speculation about an early election.

“If we cannot get the passage of this legislation through the Senate, then in one form or another it will be a major issue at the next election and we will be going to the members of the unions and we will be saying to them we want you to get a fair deal,” Mr Turnbull said.

Victorian Liberal MP Dan Tehan said it was time union officials who break the law were held to account, calling on both sides of Parliament to back the two “critical” reforms.

“If not, the clear message our Parliament would be sending to officials in organisations like the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union and the Maritime Union of Australia is we are happy for you to break the law with impunity,” Mr Tehan writes in Monday’s Herald Sun.

The Government’s focus on rogue individuals is in line with royal commissioner Dyson Heydon’s recommendation not to deregister the CFMEU, arguing it wouldn’t address the problems within the industry and would impact members.

Employment Minister Michaelia Cash said the Government was “not ruling anything out”, but one MP said deregistering the union would be “difficult”.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/rogue-union-bosses-targeted-in-turnbull-governm...
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Reply #1 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:02am
 
Lets hope, for the sake of long-suffering members, that these reforms are passed this time.
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Reply #2 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:34am
 
....apparently Unions pay the fines of its officials that break the law?

Therefore there is no deterrent in imposing fines.

More corruption.
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Reply #3 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:37am
 
Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.
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Reply #4 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:38am
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:34am:
....apparently Unions pay the fines of its officials that break the law?

Therefore there is no deterrent in imposing fines.

More corruption.

Not corruption, just a case where unions are not equal before the law.
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Reply #5 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:40am
 
Bam wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:37am:
Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.


So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #6 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:43am
 
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:40am:
Bam wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:37am:
Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.


So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Why not?

They run businesses, corporations, and conservative governments.
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Reply #7 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:46am
 
Kat wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:43am:
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:40am:
Bam wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:37am:
Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.


So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Why not?

They run businesses, corporations, and conservative governments.


You forgot the Labor party maxi!  Just look at NSW LABOR     Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin D/H
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Reply #8 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:04am
 
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:46am:
You forgot the Labor party maxi!  Just look at NSW LABOR     Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin D/H



did you close your eyes once you moved onto looking at the NSW libs?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:10am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:04am:
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:46am:
You forgot the Labor party maxi!  Just look at NSW LABOR     Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin D/H



did you close your eyes once you moved onto looking at the NSW libs?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


NAH just keeping trike boy on the straight and narrow , if that's possible  Wink
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Reply #10 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:12am
 
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:10am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:04am:
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:46am:
You forgot the Labor party maxi!  Just look at NSW LABOR     Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin D/H



did you close your eyes once you moved onto looking at the NSW libs?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


NAH just keeping trike boy on the straight and narrow , if that's possible  Wink


you're so worried about the forest that you can't see the trees ..... do I need to remind you of the count so far?
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Reply #11 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:16am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:12am:
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:10am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:04am:
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:46am:
You forgot the Labor party maxi!  Just look at NSW LABOR     Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin D/H



did you close your eyes once you moved onto looking at the NSW libs?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


NAH just keeping trike boy on the straight and narrow , if that's possible  Wink


you're so worried about the forest that you can't see the trees ..... do I need to remind you of the count so far?


You go for your life I'm going fishing,,bye  Wink Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #12 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:17am
 
half your luck ... I have to go fix a broken toilet  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #13 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:23am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:17am:
half your luck ... I have to go fix a broken toilet  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I guess this forum isn't the only thing that can't handle your crap, eh?  Wink
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Reply #14 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 8:27am
 
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:40am:
Bam wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 7:37am:
Unions should not be subject to special governance laws that companies or other organisations are not.

Banning the payment of fines against officials by unions? OK - this isn't allowed for companies.

Preventing people with criminal convictions from holding office in a union? Not OK - directors of companies are not subject to similar laws, and politicians are even allowed to be elected with criminal convictions.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.


So you think it's ok for crooks to run Unions?

No, I do not.

Nor do I think it is OK for criminals to run companies or be elected to parliament. Yet the law currently allows that.

If we ban criminals from holding offices in unions, we must also ban criminals from holding any office of responsibility, including being directors of companies or being elected to Parliament.

The law must be equal for EVERYONE.
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