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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #90 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:56pm

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Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

to retrospectively change the position people spent over 40 years to get to would be disgraceful.

I'm not changing their position. They still have their super at whatever amounts they would have with no changes. I'm not calling to tax the super ... only the income they earn on it.

It is currently taxed in the fund.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Reply #91 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 8:11pm The exemptions benefit most those so rich they don’t need them. As I keep saying, super is becoming a tax minimisation scheme rather than a scheme to save for retirement. We cannot afford to keep going on like that.
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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #92 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 8:54pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

to retrospectively change the position people spent over 40 years to get to would be disgraceful.

I'm not changing their position. They still have their super at whatever amounts they would have with no changes. I'm not calling to tax the super ... only the income they earn on it.

It is currently taxed in the fund.

heavily discounted

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #93 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:14am

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 8:11pm:

The exemptions benefit most those so rich they don’t need them. As I keep saying, super is becoming a tax minimisation scheme rather than a scheme to save for retirement.

We cannot afford to keep going on like that.

Yes that needs to be stopped but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #94 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:15am

John Smith wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

to retrospectively change the position people spent over 40 years to get to would be disgraceful.

I'm not changing their position. They still have their super at whatever amounts they would have with no changes. I'm not calling to tax the super ... only the income they earn on it.

It is currently taxed in the fund.

heavily discounted

Yes taxed at 15% the same as any Superannuation with some other typical investment offsets.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #95 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 4:53pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

The tax exemptions on super will cost the Budget $170Bn over the forward estimates. Let us look at them, eh? Then move on to multinational tax avoidance.

sounds like someone who doesnt have super.

what about we get rid of the aged pension? same amount of money but I tip you are a pensioner.

Abuse is all you got, isn’t it, Longy?

Support for Libs dropped 1.5% on Morgan polls. They will be in negative territory before long Cheesy

from 56.5 to 55 while reliable polls have them ant 53/47 and holding.

I did read some of you and maria knocking heads over polls. you really made yourself look like a first-rate fool.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #96 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 5:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

The tax exemptions on super will cost the Budget $170Bn over the forward estimates. Let us look at them, eh? Then move on to multinational tax avoidance.

sounds like someone who doesnt have super.

what about we get rid of the aged pension? same amount of money but I tip you are a pensioner.

Abuse is all you got, isn’t it, Longy?

Support for Libs dropped 1.5% on Morgan polls. They will be in negative territory before long Cheesy

from 56.5 to 55 while reliable polls have them ant 53/47 and holding.

I did read some of you and maria knocking heads over polls. you really made yourself look like a first-rate fool.

of course you did .... you even told her what to write while she was replying Cheesy

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #97 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:41pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 5:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

The tax exemptions on super will cost the Budget $170Bn over the forward estimates. Let us look at them, eh? Then move on to multinational tax avoidance.

sounds like someone who doesnt have super.

what about we get rid of the aged pension? same amount of money but I tip you are a pensioner.

Abuse is all you got, isn’t it, Longy?

Support for Libs dropped 1.5% on Morgan polls. They will be in negative territory before long Cheesy

from 56.5 to 55 while reliable polls have them ant 53/47 and holding.

I did read some of you and maria knocking heads over polls. you really made yourself look like a first-rate fool.

of course you did .... you even told her what to write while she was replying Cheesy

just like jovial_monk tells you. surely you are not going to claim you and he are not the same person???? you have similar styles and similar levels of abuse. and you are both OH SO STUPID.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61230 Here Gender:	Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Reply #98 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Increasing taxes is seldom the answer.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Reply #99 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:51pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Increasing taxes is seldom the answer. but increasing spending is? coz that is always the labor way of doing things.
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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #100 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:55pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer

Increasing taxes is seldom the answer.

but increasing spending is? coz that is always the labor way of doing things.

And yet it was the Abbott / Turnbull government that has been on a spending rampage since 2013 and the Howard government which is shown to be the biggest and most wasteful spending government in at least 7 decades.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #101 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:04pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer

Increasing taxes is seldom the answer.

but increasing spending is? coz that is always the labor way of doing things.

And yet it was the Abbott / Turnbull government that has been on a spending rampage since 2013 and the Howard government which is shown to be the biggest and most wasteful spending government in at least 7 decades.

your ignorance is no longer surprising as it is just a defining characteristic of you now. funny how you repeatedly ignore the 6 years of the highest increases in spending in history and in fact the fastest increase in spending IN THE WORLD. and that was despite the mining boom under labor. and when the GFC ended, labor just continued increasing spending. by far the most profligate govt was Rudds. and quoting the IMF and its rapist head is not helping your cause.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #102 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:29pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer

Increasing taxes is seldom the answer.

but increasing spending is? coz that is always the labor way of doing things.

And yet it was the Abbott / Turnbull government that has been on a spending rampage since 2013 and the Howard government which is shown to be the biggest and most wasteful spending government in at least 7 decades.

your ignorance is no longer surprising as it is just a defining characteristic of you now. funny how you repeatedly ignore the 6 years of the highest increases in spending in history and in fact the fastest increase in spending IN THE WORLD. and that was despite the mining boom under labor. and when the GFC ended, labor just continued increasing spending. by far the most profligate govt was Rudds. and quoting the IMF and its rapist head is not helping your cause.

Yes Longy - If you don't like the facts just make up your own, that'll work.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #103 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:32pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer

Increasing taxes is seldom the answer.

but increasing spending is? coz that is always the labor way of doing things.

And yet it was the Abbott / Turnbull government that has been on a spending rampage since 2013 and the Howard government which is shown to be the biggest and most wasteful spending government in at least 7 decades.

your ignorance is no longer surprising as it is just a defining characteristic of you now. funny how you repeatedly ignore the 6 years of the highest increases in spending in history and in fact the fastest increase in spending IN THE WORLD. and that was despite the mining boom under labor. and when the GFC ended, labor just continued increasing spending. by far the most profligate govt was Rudds. and quoting the IMF and its rapist head is not helping your cause.

6 years of the highest increases in spending in history and in fact the fastest increase in spending IN THE WORLD.

Information of questionable value straight from the seventh planet of Mr Long.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #104 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer

Increasing taxes is seldom the answer.

but increasing spending is? coz that is always the labor way of doing things.

So tell me then - why is it the LNP propagandising a rise in the GST? Because they want to spend less? Why did Joey lift the borrowing ceiling to infinity? Because the LNP want to spend less?

I believe you are once again on the horns of a dilemna..... your answer should be breathtaking...

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