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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Reply #45 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 5:23am Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:03pm: [ Why don't YOU learn what socialism actually is and means? THEN comment. Maybe this will help everyone understand
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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #46 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:08am

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 5:23am:

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:

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Why don't YOU learn what socialism actually is and means?

THEN comment.

Maybe this will help everyone understand

Back to the drawing board Big O - start again. You didn't seem to get it and went for your previous biased uneducated view.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61245 Here Gender:	Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Reply #47 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:11am Not sure what socialism has to do with jacking up the GST. An action that both governments went into the last election with strong commitment to not do and now the Liberals are going to increase the GST as their first preference.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Reply #48 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:19am Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:11am: Not sure what socialism has to do with jacking up the GST. Ok, so as a socialist why post in a thread you don't understand?
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Reply #49 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:36am

Kat wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 12:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Why don't YOU learn what socialism actually is and means?

Why don't you teach us?

Seems many people have no idea what socialism actually is. "

Socialism" was the top search term for Merriam-Webster in 2015

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Doesn't seem like many of 'em were from here... Sad

Indeed, but it appears the global backlash against unrestrained capitalism has begun.

really??

the fastest grwoing, most dynamic countries (china, india, south korea, malaysia, singapore, indonesia, the phillipines).....absolutely LOVE capitalism, they cant get enough of it.

socialism is the consolation prize you get for not being able to compete.
socialism is like getting to watch TV whilst the capitalists go out and party.
socialism is a story that failures tell themselves to glorify the state they find themselves in because they dont have the courage, energy and drive to go out and make it happen.

Doesn't sound like you have any idea either.

Kat,

i think there is a misunderstanding between the haves and the "have nots".

i think the "have nots "genuinely believe that the haves dont like the "have nots" and are trying to hold them down.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

the haves, the successful people, the guys who run companies and small businesses are, by and large , great people

they are centred, they are good blokes, they are very smart, they work very hard and they would desperately like to see everyone of the "have nots" become successful as well.

It is the people who are unsuccessful who try to divide the citizens into 2 warring factions.
The successful people want a form of socialism where everyone comes up to their level. where all are happy fulfilled and successful.
unfortunately, most of the "have nots" have such terrible success barriers and limiting beliefs, that this is an impossibility

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 22971 ACT Gender:	Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Reply #50 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:38am Swagman wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:19am: Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:11am: Not sure what socialism has to do with jacking up the GST. Ok, so as a socialist why post in a thread you don't understand? Swaggie would understand it, he is on a par with Aqua and Longy.
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Reply #51 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 8:39am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Why don't YOU learn what socialism actually is and means?

Why don't you teach us?

Seems many people have no idea what socialism actually is. "

Socialism" was the top search term for Merriam-Webster in 2015

.

Doesn't seem like many of 'em were from here... Sad

Indeed, but it appears the global backlash against unrestrained capitalism has begun.

really??

the fastest grwoing, most dynamic countries (china, india, south korea, malaysia, singapore, indonesia, the phillipines).....absolutely LOVE capitalism, they cant get enough of it.

socialism is the consolation prize you get for not being able to compete.
socialism is like getting to watch TV whilst the capitalists go out and party.
socialism is a story that failures tell themselves to glorify the state they find themselves in because they dont have the courage, energy and drive to go out and make it happen.

It sounds like Bam is still going through the hate phase where he hates those that 'have' while he has nothing.

Reported. You deserve a lifetime ban. You contribute nothing useful to any discussion but just go around attacking anyone who doesn't agree with you.

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Reply #52 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 8:49am

stunspore wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 9:53pm:

GST is not the way - when there are so many tax deductions/loopholes/havens/etc that should be considered.

That would be a sensible approach that removes the need to slug hardworking Australians and honest businesses with more taxes. The problem is, we're not going to see such action as long as we have a Prime Minister with millions stashed in the Cayman Islands.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61245 Here Gender:	Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Reply #53 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 10:00am Swagman wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:19am: Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:11am: Not sure what socialism has to do with jacking up the GST. Ok, so as a socialist why post in a thread you don't understand? If that were a rule you would get to post nowhere.
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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #54 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 10:47am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 10:00am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 7:19am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:11am:

Not sure what socialism has to do with jacking up the GST.

Ok, so as a socialist why post in a thread you don't understand? Cheesy

If that were a rule you would get to post nowhere.

...spoken like a true socialist

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #55 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 12:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:11am:

Not sure what socialism has to do with jacking up the GST.

An action that both governments went into the last election with strong commitment to not do and now the Liberals are going to increase the GST as their first preference.

not true. labor opposes the GST because the Libs proposed despite it being the ALPs preference for a while. and the libs did NOT promise to not increase the GST, only that they would not do so without seeking a mandate from the voters.

now DNA... this is what truth looks like rather than the ignorant rubbish you peddle.

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Reply #56 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 12:13pm

Bam wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

stunspore wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 9:53pm:

GST is not the way - when there are so many tax deductions/loopholes/havens/etc that should be considered.

That would be a sensible approach that removes the need to slug hardworking Australians and honest businesses with more taxes. The problem is, we're not going to see such action as long as we have a Prime Minister with millions stashed in the Cayman Islands.

as does half the labor front bench and Rudd and Gillard.

all of whom pay australian taxes on the earnings, a fact you seem to struggle with.

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Reply #57 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 12:14pm

Bam wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 8:39am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Why don't YOU learn what socialism actually is and means?

Why don't you teach us?

Seems many people have no idea what socialism actually is. "

Socialism" was the top search term for Merriam-Webster in 2015

.

Doesn't seem like many of 'em were from here... Sad

Indeed, but it appears the global backlash against unrestrained capitalism has begun.

really??

the fastest grwoing, most dynamic countries (china, india, south korea, malaysia, singapore, indonesia, the phillipines).....absolutely LOVE capitalism, they cant get enough of it.

socialism is the consolation prize you get for not being able to compete.
socialism is like getting to watch TV whilst the capitalists go out and party.
socialism is a story that failures tell themselves to glorify the state they find themselves in because they dont have the courage, energy and drive to go out and make it happen.

It sounds like Bam is still going through the hate phase where he hates those that 'have' while he has nothing.

Reported. You deserve a lifetime ban. You contribute nothing useful to any discussion but just go around attacking anyone who doesn't agree with you.

you hate companies and rich people. dont deny it. instead, go have a sook in the moderator corner. maybe they will change your nappy for you

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Melanias purse Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100938	Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer Reply #58 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 12:18pm Thank God you’re back, Longy. That awful Maria woman tried to weigh in on your writing challenge, but I told her we wouldn’t have a bar of it. Distinguished writers and business owners only, thanks. Now that you’re back, she can SHUT UP.
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Reply #59 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:10pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:11am:

Not sure what socialism has to do with jacking up the GST.

An action that both governments went into the last election with strong commitment to not do and now the Liberals are going to increase the GST as their first preference.

not true. labor opposes the GST because the Libs proposed despite it being the ALPs preference for a while. and the libs did NOT promise to not increase the GST, only that they would not do so without seeking a mandate from the voters.

now DNA... this is what truth looks like rather than the ignorant rubbish you peddle.

Maybe you should call Tony a liar ? I am not going to call you a liar just because you are wrong but you are wrong. Next time you say this and you will you will then be a liar.

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