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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #105 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer

Increasing taxes is seldom the answer.

but increasing spending is? coz that is always the labor way of doing things.

And yet it was the Abbott / Turnbull government that has been on a spending rampage since 2013 and the Howard government which is shown to be the biggest and most wasteful spending government in at least 7 decades.

your ignorance is no longer surprising as it is just a defining characteristic of you now. funny how you repeatedly ignore the 6 years of the highest increases in spending in history and in fact the fastest increase in spending IN THE WORLD. and that was despite the mining boom under labor. and when the GFC ended, labor just continued increasing spending. by far the most profligate govt was Rudds. and quoting the IMF and its rapist head is not helping your cause.

Longy, that's not a very edifying statement. Debt came from a low base. If I had a debt of $1 billion and increased it to $10 billion it has accelerated the debt by 1000% but only $9 billion. If I had a debt of $500 billion and increased to $1 Trillion I've only doubled it. One can make statistics say anything one wants.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #106 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 10:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 5:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

The tax exemptions on super will cost the Budget $170Bn over the forward estimates. Let us look at them, eh? Then move on to multinational tax avoidance.

sounds like someone who doesnt have super.

what about we get rid of the aged pension? same amount of money but I tip you are a pensioner.

Abuse is all you got, isn’t it, Longy?

Support for Libs dropped 1.5% on Morgan polls. They will be in negative territory before long Cheesy

from 56.5 to 55 while reliable polls have them ant 53/47 and holding.

I did read some of you and maria knocking heads over polls. you really made yourself look like a first-rate fool.

of course you did .... you even told her what to write while she was replying Cheesy

just like jovial_monk tells you. surely you are not going to claim you and he are not the same person???? you have similar styles and similar levels of abuse. and you are both OH SO STUPID.

really? you want to claim Jovial and I are the same person? Grin

farrrk but you are an ijut . Cheesy

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #107 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 10:02pm

crocodile wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer

Increasing taxes is seldom the answer.

but increasing spending is? coz that is always the labor way of doing things.

And yet it was the Abbott / Turnbull government that has been on a spending rampage since 2013 and the Howard government which is shown to be the biggest and most wasteful spending government in at least 7 decades.

your ignorance is no longer surprising as it is just a defining characteristic of you now. funny how you repeatedly ignore the 6 years of the highest increases in spending in history and in fact the fastest increase in spending IN THE WORLD. and that was despite the mining boom under labor. and when the GFC ended, labor just continued increasing spending. by far the most profligate govt was Rudds. and quoting the IMF and its rapist head is not helping your cause.

Longy, that's not a very edifying statement. Debt came from a low base. If I had a debt of $1 billion and increased it to $10 billion it has accelerated the debt by 1000% but only $9 billion. If I had a debt of $500 billion and increased to $1 Trillion I've only doubled it. One can make statistics say anything one wants.

longie knows that as it has been explained to him on several occasions. Acknowledging it though would mean his argument fall flat, like all his other arguments. It's easier for him to ignore the facts.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #108 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:43am

Be nice if Longy actually gave links to Treasury papers.

Fact is, Labor spent less (stimulus excepted) and collected less revenue than the Howard/Costello goivernments.

The present Lib govt is spending at a record rate of just under 26% of GDP, even Morriscum has said that.

$170Bn over the forward estimates will go to super tax exemption. We cannot afford this.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #109 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:50am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:32pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer

Increasing taxes is seldom the answer.

but increasing spending is? coz that is always the labor way of doing things.

And yet it was the Abbott / Turnbull government that has been on a spending rampage since 2013 and the Howard government which is shown to be the biggest and most wasteful spending government in at least 7 decades.

your ignorance is no longer surprising as it is just a defining characteristic of you now. funny how you repeatedly ignore the 6 years of the highest increases in spending in history and in fact the fastest increase in spending IN THE WORLD. and that was despite the mining boom under labor. and when the GFC ended, labor just continued increasing spending. by far the most profligate govt was Rudds. and quoting the IMF and its rapist head is not helping your cause.

6 years of the highest increases in spending in history and in fact the fastest increase in spending IN THE WORLD.

Information of questionable value straight from the seventh planet of Mr Long.

actually straight from the IMF you love to selectively quote..

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #110 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:00am

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Mr Shorten questioned why the government was "soft" on multinational tax avoidance but was considering going "hard on families by increasing the GST". Sad

Why doesn't Mr SHoirten talk about negative gearing and tax CGT concessions ? Is it because him and his poli mates have a nice little collection of investment properties ?

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #111 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:23am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:00am:

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Mr Shorten questioned why the government was "soft" on multinational tax avoidance but was considering going "hard on families by increasing the GST". Sad

Why doesn't Mr SHoirten talk about negative gearing and tax CGT concessions ? Is it because him and his poli mates have a nice little collection of investment properties ?

Essentially they are all in the same boat.... doing all that hard public service work needs its rewards, you know, and they're not going to cut their own throats for the good of the people - cut the throats of the people instead - only peasants anyway and beneath our consideration and they can afford it.....

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #112 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 7:52am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:00am:

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Mr Shorten questioned why the government was "soft" on multinational tax avoidance but was considering going "hard on families by increasing the GST". Sad

Why doesn't Mr SHoirten talk about negative gearing and tax CGT concessions ? Is it because him and his poli mates have a nice little collection of investment properties ?

Bill only talks about what the ACTU tells him to talk about.

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Re: Jacking Up The GST Is Not The Answer
Reply #114 - Jan 17^th, 2016 at 1:36am

You operate here - you pay our tax rates here - you take it as a deduction in your home base country... pretty simple, yes? Owing a loan to mummy or daddy company doesn't count... any more than being able to deduct repayment of a loan from a family member counts for the ordinary taxpayer......

You don't get to deduct repayments to Uncle Arfur to keep your household going when you're doing it tough, do you?

**Downe at Ye Olde Taxe Office,,,

"Nah, then, Mr Bloggski, you say you needed to borrow to keep your household going in its business of earning a profit, and you now want to deduct repayments on that?"

"Ye-ussh - I had to borrow from Uncle Arfur to set up a bank account to keep going and earn an income. Without it I wouldn't even have been able to go to work or pay fares, let alone pay the kids in food for doing the chores!"

"I'm sorry, Mr Bloggski... but if you'd been Bloggski Corporation we could allow this.. but for you it means a fine for attempted tax evasion. Payment required within 28 days!"

"But I'll have to borrow from Aunt Marfa to cover that!"

"Not our problem, Mr Bloggski... just don't try to get a deduction for that loan next time or it'll go worse for you as a second offence!!"

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