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Reply #255 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 7:13pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 10:22am:
Generally, I paid over $120,000 debts my stupid partner had run up before he left the business and I kept it running and employing people until illness (arthritis) forced me to stop.


Wow, I would have thought a good self help book on financial management and basic book keeping would have helped you run the business you were in partnership to see these debts accumulate on your balance sheet. You would then have not been surprised.

It is not only your partner that was stupid. If you had a share, you could have learned how to detect poor financial management.

Also, I bet you didn't run it as a limited company... so you had the debt personally so you could just close the company writing off the debt.

I good self help book on financial risk management would have help you there as well.

Don't continually blame your partner, you both had no idea. A book may have saved you.
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Reply #256 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 7:16pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 6:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 6:49pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 5:02pm:
I look at your posts and that is all I can see.

Why not try increasing facts and decreasing the abuse?

Bit of attention to grammar, punctuation and capitalisation will help.

Over to you, Longy.



who'd bother giving facts to you?  you exaggerate and flat-out lie as a matter of course. you rarely provide links and when you do, you seems shocked that people mock your blog posts and facebook pages.

That is actually abuse, but you will get away with it.

It is also cover for you not knowing most subjects that gets discussed here, goes with a lack of ability to argue logically.



so why dont you tell us all about the $30B copper audits or the $200B FTTN and how power poles are all going to be pulled out of the ground.

and yes... you have stated all of those for the past years or two.
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Reply #257 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 8:07pm
 
It was $20Bn for the two audits, and NBN Co are looking at the state of the copper in detail, i.e. an audit.

I said the cost will be closer to $150Bn than whatever fudged figure NBN Co put in their Strategic Review. It has increased to $56Bn with hardly anything rolled out as yet.

I said the 48mm diameter HFC cables would put a huge strain on the power poles, and they will. The bit about the poles being pulled out the ground was me quoting one council worried about cars doing just that.

The Optus HFC HAS to be rebuilt. god knows what disasters will be uncovered with the Telstra HFC?

For a religious character you sure tell a lot of lies, Maria/Longy.
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Reply #258 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:45am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 8:07pm:
It was $20Bn for the two audits, and NBN Co are looking at the state of the copper in detail, i.e. an audit.

I said the cost will be closer to $150Bn than whatever fudged figure NBN Co put in their Strategic Review. It has increased to $56Bn with hardly anything rolled out as yet.

I said the 48mm diameter HFC cables would put a huge strain on the power poles, and they will. The bit about the poles being pulled out the ground was me quoting one council worried about cars doing just that.

The Optus HFC HAS to be rebuilt. god knows what disasters will be uncovered with the Telstra HFC?

For a religious character you sure tell a lot of lies, Maria/Longy.



you have dialed back your lies george.  I espcially like the bit about poles coming out of the ground because they are hit by cars - as if that is a new thing. Except it is...  when a car hits a pole - even at high speed, the pole is bent, not pulled out.  and yet you think a few cables can pull it out of the ground. 

idiot.
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Reply #259 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:16am
 
No, the council was worried a car or truck would get tangled up in the cable and so bring the pole down.

Unlike you I don’t think hanging thick heavy cables between poles adds no net force to the pole. Poles might need to be replaced/reinforced but I never said they would just topple over.

I have been 100% consistent on what I said about the MTM mess and its costs. The costs have already shot up to $56Bn with hardly anything built—do you REALLY think costs won’t blow out much more than that? Of course they will!

The opportunity cost of stopping the FTTH roll out, doing nothing but bits of infill now faffing around with FTTN over Telstra copper and Telstra HFC is even bigger than the cost of the MTM mess.
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Reply #260 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 12:31pm
 
Phemanderac wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 5:03pm:
Mothra, firstly my apologies, I had a chuckle to myself when I saw FD's ONLY response was to move your thread to relationships. My theory on this is that this is FD's way of letting you know your concerns are a waste of time... He won't be doing squat about anything herein.

I chuckled, because my first thought when I first read your thread is that FD will move this, probably to relationships because he seems to use that as his dumping ground...

I apologies because such a contemptible action probably is not really funny at the end of the day.

Now, to other matters...

Aqua - please keep on reading your self help books.

I would recommend though that you either do a course on comprehension, read the entire book or purchase better quality books... They are about your only three options based on the utter nonsense you post.

I suggested to you (quite respectfully as I recall it) reading up on Meta-cognition - clearly you have not though, or you have not grasped it. Now the reason I suggested that to you specifically was because you seem to be interested in this stuff and you make posts that seem to talk around exactly what Meta-cognition is all about. Except you consistently miss the mark...

You spent some time here talking about ego, further, you did so seemingly from a perspective that you have mastered this. Respectfully though, I say to you, if you had truly mastered your own ego you would not need to fall back of left vs right paradigm in your comments. Your personal commitment to right wing thinking is absolutely your choice of course, your demonstrated commitment to justify your decision to be a right wing supporter on your "self help" manuals diatribes about "ego" is demonstrative of your own ego's need to be correct in your decision to be a right wing supporter... Even more so, when flaws in your plastic bubble world (that you call reality...) are pointed out, you respond that they are not "true" rightards (pretty sure rightard is the expression you use, if not my apologies). Once again though, that is your ego talking, nothing more.

Now, you mentioned also, right/left brain thinking regarding being "emotional"... Once again, I will demonstrate that your information is either totally wrong, or you have not comprehended what was written. Right and Left parts of the brain have very specific and necessary functions, ironically, very little to do with emotions overall. As should normally be expected, a fair smattering of individuals favour one hemisphere over another - this is a good thing though, without those individuals we would not have advance mathematics, art, music or even a very advanced concept of logic or philosophy. I am sure you would agree all those things are kind of important in the grand scheme of our species existence.

What you are alluding to though, when you talk about emotional responses are the Amygdala (you have a right and left one of these two). In very simple terms, this is the accelerator - this is the part of our brain that responds first and foremost to emotional triggers. The spot where flight, fight or freeze occurs. It is a normal part of the human brain.

Of course, we are a species with (theoretically) some pretty unique "wiring" in our brain that link the Amygdala up with our frontal cortex (lobe), now that bit of the brain is where we can be more analytical, abstract, thoughtful and, rely on what we have previously learned and/or experienced in order to thoughtfully respond to any given situation, rather than just reacting emotionally. Clearly, that process takes a bit of practice and, even with practice, it is absolutely normal for us not to get this right every single time in our lives. Hopefully though, we get it right during important times mostly.

Finally, using ideas about how we think, responding to our emotions and ego to justify, dismiss and/or minimise what is patently abusive, derogatory and threatening behaviour is NOT at all what any self help book is about, ever, even the rubbish ones that are out there. One would reasonably expect slightly better, to be honest, from a father of daughters.



very instructive and well thought out.
thanks for that
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Reply #261 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:16am:
No, the council was worried a car or truck would get tangled up in the cable and so bring the pole down.

Unlike you I don’t think hanging thick heavy cables between poles adds no net force to the pole. Poles might need to be replaced/reinforced but I never said they would just topple over.

I have been 100% consistent on what I said about the MTM mess and its costs. The costs have already shot up to $56Bn with hardly anything built—do you REALLY think costs won’t blow out much more than that? Of course they will!

The opportunity cost of stopping the FTTH roll out, doing nothing but bits of infill now faffing around with FTTN over Telstra copper and Telstra HFC is even bigger than the cost of the MTM mess.


there is no net force on the poles other than the weight of the cables which is insignificant. even in the case of high winds, the extra force is insignficant. 

didnt you ever stayd any physics or even basic commonsense?
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Reply #262 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:28pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:16am:
No, the council was worried a car or truck would get tangled up in the cable and so bring the pole down.

Unlike you I don’t think hanging thick heavy cables between poles adds no net force to the pole. Poles might need to be replaced/reinforced but I never said they would just topple over.

I have been 100% consistent on what I said about the MTM mess and its costs. The costs have already shot up to $56Bn with hardly anything built—do you REALLY think costs won’t blow out much more than that? Of course they will!

The opportunity cost of stopping the FTTH roll out, doing nothing but bits of infill now faffing around with FTTN over Telstra copper and Telstra HFC is even bigger than the cost of the MTM mess.


utter garbage.  do you think those UNBREAKABLE power lines up there right now are a risk to poles being pulled down?
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Reply #263 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:16pm
 
Are those lines 48mm diameter? It was a council had that concern.

Do you agree the cost of the MTM mess has already blown out to $56Bn? That is an NBN Co figure.

Do you think that figure will blow out as the kludge gets rolled out?

Simple questions.
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Reply #264 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:02am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Are those lines 48mm diameter? It was a council had that concern.

Do you agree the cost of the MTM mess has already blown out to $56Bn? That is an NBN Co figure.

Do you think that figure will blow out as the kludge gets rolled out?

Simple questions.



you really do get rather extreme and silly about these kinds of issues.  the 48mm cables are a RARITY and in any case, have you seen HV power lines? they are not coax but solid twisted steel, far stronger and heavier than coax.  how many poles have been pulled out of the ground by these virtually unbreakable cables?  and in other news that you are unaware of, all of these cable types do not run THROUGH poles but hang from insulators.  when hit by a car or truck the cables come away from the insulators and the pole stays in place.


you concerns about this are hysterical and uninformed.

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Reply #265 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:06am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:27pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:16am:
No, the council was worried a car or truck would get tangled up in the cable and so bring the pole down.

Unlike you I don’t think hanging thick heavy cables between poles adds no net force to the pole. Poles might need to be replaced/reinforced but I never said they would just topple over.

I have been 100% consistent on what I said about the MTM mess and its costs. The costs have already shot up to $56Bn with hardly anything built—do you REALLY think costs won’t blow out much more than that? Of course they will!

The opportunity cost of stopping the FTTH roll out, doing nothing but bits of infill now faffing around with FTTN over Telstra copper and Telstra HFC is even bigger than the cost of the MTM mess.


there is no net force on the poles other than the weight of the cables which is insignificant. even in the case of high winds, the extra force is insignficant. 

didnt you ever stayd any physics or even basic commonsense?

If you believe that crap about the no net force then you are brainwashed. Heavy thick cables are going to exert huge force down and to a smaller extent laterally on the poles. If you can’t see that then you know no maths or physics.
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Reply #266 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:18am
 

Well, this thread certainly got off track.

It was originally about this:

"piss off you ugly bitch." the good ole boys (AKA Captain Spaulding)

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1452135327/135#135

"you are a disgusting piece of work..

"you need your lights knocked out"
The Mechanic

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Reply #267 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:26am
 
Greg, the Thread Police.   Smiley
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:06am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:27pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:16am:
No, the council was worried a car or truck would get tangled up in the cable and so bring the pole down.

Unlike you I don’t think hanging thick heavy cables between poles adds no net force to the pole. Poles might need to be replaced/reinforced but I never said they would just topple over.

I have been 100% consistent on what I said about the MTM mess and its costs. The costs have already shot up to $56Bn with hardly anything built—do you REALLY think costs won’t blow out much more than that? Of course they will!

The opportunity cost of stopping the FTTH roll out, doing nothing but bits of infill now faffing around with FTTN over Telstra copper and Telstra HFC is even bigger than the cost of the MTM mess.


there is no net force on the poles other than the weight of the cables which is insignificant. even in the case of high winds, the extra force is insignficant. 

didnt you ever stayd any physics or even basic commonsense?

If you believe that crap about the no net force then you are brainwashed. Heavy thick cables are going to exert huge force down and to a smaller extent laterally on the poles. If you can’t see that then you know no maths or physics.


you are a boofhead.  the downward force is nothing more than the WEIGHT of the cable and no more. they are deliberately grossly over-designed to carry weights vastly more then they are ever asked to do.  as I mentioned before, HV cables weigh a lot more than coax - even 48mm - and the poles handle that perfectly.

in a straight line there is ZERO net force laterally.  in the event of a bend there is minor inward force. again, much brighter minds than you designed these poles with a  much greater workload than a handful of coax cables.
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Reply #269 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:30pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
very instructive and well thought out.
thanks for that


You're welcome.

For my part though, I am curious, what do you plan to do with the information? After all, this is by no means the first time I have provided you with some of this info - you say thanks then seemingly move on with no change to your game plan...

Or were you just dismissing me perhaps?
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