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Abetz on Abbott
Jan 9^th, 2016 at 11:54am

“There’s no doubt Tony has a lot to contribute to public life and the public discourse in Australia and indeed the world, and I for one hope that he remains in the parliament.”

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2015/12/19/abbotts-plans-the-b...

Funniest thing I've read for a while.

Tony has nothing to contribute to anyone, anywhere.

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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #1 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 1:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 11:54am:

“There’s no doubt Tony has a lot to contribute to public life and the public discourse in Australia and indeed the world, and I for one hope that he remains in the parliament.”

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2015/12/19/abbotts-plans-the-b...

Funniest thing I've read for a while.

Tony Gweggy has nothing to contribute to anyone, anywhere.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sycophant

Isn't that the truth

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #2 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 2:13pm keep up the good job lads/laddies keep the focus on Abbott
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150268 Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #3 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 2:17pm "Asked whether Abbott could one day regain the top job, Abetz implies this is possible, citing other dumped leaders who have mounted comebacks against the odds."
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39683 Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #4 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 2:19pm The only thing in that Article which interested me was the allegation that Credlin sought to white ant Turnbull within the bureaucrats, urging some not to work for Turnbull.
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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #5 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:03pm

The more the focus remains on Abbott, the weaker Turnbull's senior leadership group will become. Either promote the man back into the ministry and give him a single focus or, let him remain on the backbench making public comments and risk more leaks and white anting.

Abbott is a fool, was the worst PM we have ever had, and was/will be a terrible choice for a representative position BUT, it is fairly obvious he will not resign or stand aside for another candidate at this year's election. So Turnbull is stuck with him and, he is dangerous to the Coalition. Time to act Turnbull - you options are limited, but the man is slowly pulling your party apart - he has too much power as a pleb, he is in the news too much, even MORE than members of your own front bench - show some leadership

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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #6 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:20pm

Vic wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The more the focus remains on Abbott, the weaker Turnbull's senior leadership group will become. Either promote the man back into the ministry and give him a single focus or, let him remain on the backbench making public comments and risk more leaks and white anting.

Abbott is a fool, was the worst PM we have ever had, and was/will be a terrible choice for a representative position BUT, it is fairly obvious he will not resign or stand aside for another candidate at this year's election. So Turnbull is stuck with him and, he is dangerous to the Coalition. Time to act Turnbull - you options are limited, but the man is slowly pulling your party apart - he has too much power as a pleb, he is in the news too much, even MORE than members of your own front bench - show some leadership

You've completely nailed it.

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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #7 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:25pm

Vic wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The more the focus remains on Abbott, the weaker Turnbull's senior leadership group will become. Either promote the man back into the ministry and give him a single focus or, let him remain on the backbench making public comments and risk more leaks and white anting.

Abbott is a fool, was the worst PM we have ever had, and was/will be a terrible choice for a representative position BUT, it is fairly obvious he will not resign or stand aside for another candidate at this year's election. So Turnbull is stuck with him and, he is dangerous to the Coalition. Time to act Turnbull - you options are limited, but the man is slowly pulling your party apart - he has too much power as a pleb, he is in the news too much, even MORE than members of your own front bench - show some leadership

What are his options without Abbott co-operation or submission? Certainly he will not give Abbott a seat in Cabinet. Forget that.

He cannot dis-endorse Abbott, but he can apply pressure with the Libs to make it known internally that he wants Abbott out.

If that fails, he can go public and state it clearly that Abbott is not welcome in Parliament.

Or......go to Abbott with some bribe.......some choice appointment and hope Abbott takes it. I reckon Turnbull will not do that, and even if he did, Abbott would not accept it.

Abbott knows he is on a potential winner if he stays pat and that is what he will do. Turnbull will not opt for the all out public War, even though he would ultimately win it....but, at enormous cost.

It would be easier if the numbers were not as tight as they are. It only needs five changed votes in the Party Room for Turnbull to lose.

Juicy stuff.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150268 Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #8 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:28pm Aussie wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:25pm: Or......go to Abbott with some bribe.......some choice appointment and hope Abbott takes it. This would be the best outcome for all involved; especially Abbott. However, Abbott is far too stupid to realise this.
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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #9 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 11:54am:

“There’s no doubt Tony has a lot to contribute to public life and the public discourse in Australia and indeed the world, and I for one hope that he remains in the parliament.”

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2015/12/19/abbotts-plans-the-b...

Funniest thing I've read for a while.

Tony has nothing to contribute to anyone, anywhere.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sycophant

yet another one of your pathetic lies..

Tony Abbott spends a majority of his time with public causes and is one of the best public servants in Australia today..

unlike yourself.. who is a lazy pox ridden welfare worthless loafer...

and as Bob Hawk said..

Tony Abbott is a thoroughly decent man...

Bob Hawk... the last decent Leader that Labor had..

I'm not saying he was perfect or without sin.. but he always put Australia first and made a lot of decent changes..

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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #10 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:44pm in fact.. put Bob Hawk up against Turncoat today and Bob Hawk would win the election..
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150268 Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #11 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:46pm Aussie wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:25pm: Juicy stuff. Juicy stuff, indeed. If Turnbull can't find a way to remove the canker that is Abbott, he could find himself in some real trouble.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #12 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 5:34pm One thing about Abbott is its highly unlikely he will take this all on the chin, nor will the lunatic right wingers on the fringe. Sit back grab the popcorn and see how division really does equal political death if mal cant consolidate the party.
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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #13 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 1:23am

Vic wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The more the focus remains on Abbott, the weaker Turnbull's senior leadership group will become. Either promote the man back into the ministry and give him a single focus or, let him remain on the backbench making public comments and risk more leaks and white anting.

10000000% agreed

Please keep all the attention on Abbott

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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #14 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 6:26am

Vic wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The more the focus remains on Abbott, the weaker Turnbull's senior leadership group will become. Either promote the man back into the ministry and give him a single focus or, let him remain on the backbench making public comments and risk more leaks and white anting.

Abbott is a fool, was the worst PM we have ever had, and was/will be a terrible choice for a representative position BUT, it is fairly obvious he will not resign or stand aside for another candidate at this year's election. So Turnbull is stuck with him and, he is dangerous to the Coalition. Time to act Turnbull - you options are limited, but the man is slowly pulling your party apart - he has too much power as a pleb, he is in the news too much, even MORE than members of your own front bench - show some leadership

Wrong. The worst PM we ever had was Rudd. No other PM has turned a successful government policy into a revenue-draining deathtrap that caused long-term psychological harm to RAN & Customs personnel. I am, of course, referring to Rudd's ego-driven decision to abolish the highly successful Pacific Solution and replace it with his "more humane" policy, which resulted in more than 50,000 people arriving on nearly 800 boats, with at least 1,100 people dead, RAN & Customs personnel traumatised by pulling dead bodies from the water almost weekly at a cost to taxpayers of more than $2 billion per year. Then there was Rudd's deadly pink batts scheme that not only killed a number of young men inside scorching roofs, it also caused more than 100 house fires and when Rudd rushed to close it down, hundreds of businesses went bankrupt overnight as they were unable to do anything with the now worthless pink batts they'd purchased to meet the demand from Rudd's policy shambles. The same happened with Rudd's solar panel policy, albeit without the deaths but still with a lot of businesses going belly-up when Rudd shut it down overnight without warning. Rudd is the only PM in our history to have implemented new policy or changed existing policy and to have had those changes directly lead to people being killed. He was not only our worst Prime Minister EVER, he was an extremely lethal Prime Minister!

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