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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #15 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 6:29am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 11:54am:

“There’s no doubt Tony has a lot to contribute to public life and the public discourse in Australia and indeed the world, and I for one hope that he remains in the parliament.”

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2015/12/19/abbotts-plans-the-b...

Funniest thing I've read for a while.

Tony has nothing to contribute to anyone, anywhere.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sycophant

yet another one of your pathetic lies..

Tony Abbott spends a majority of his time with public causes and is one of the best public servants in Australia today..

unlike yourself.. who is a lazy pox ridden welfare worthless loafer...

and as Bob Hawk said..

Tony Abbott is a thoroughly decent man...

Bob Hawk... the last decent Leader that Labor had..

I'm not saying he was perfect or without sin.. but he always put Australia first and made a lot of decent changes..

More often than not, he does so without alerting the media because he's one of the few polleis who does these things because he genuinely wants to help, not because he's looking for a photo op. Look at his numerous trips to Aboriginal communities in the NT. It's a rare day when any media goes with him up there. The same can't be said of Rudd, who used his own Church as a prop for photo op's.

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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #16 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 7:45am

Vic wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The more the focus remains on Abbott, the weaker Turnbull's senior leadership group will become. Either promote the man back into the ministry and give him a single focus or, let him remain on the backbench making public comments and risk more leaks and white anting.

Abbott is a fool, was the worst PM we have ever had, and was/will be a terrible choice for a representative position BUT, it is fairly obvious he will not resign or stand aside for another candidate at this year's election. So Turnbull is stuck with him and, he is dangerous to the Coalition. Time to act Turnbull - you options are limited, but the man is slowly pulling your party apart - he has too much power as a pleb, he is in the news too much, even MORE than members of your own front bench - show some leadership

Completely nailed it.

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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #17 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 8:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 7:45am:

Vic wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The more the focus remains on Abbott, the weaker Turnbull's senior leadership group will become. Either promote the man back into the ministry and give him a single focus or, let him remain on the backbench making public comments and risk more leaks and white anting.

Abbott is a fool, was the worst PM we have ever had, and was/will be a terrible choice for a representative position BUT, it is fairly obvious he will not resign or stand aside for another candidate at this year's election. So Turnbull is stuck with him and, he is dangerous to the Coalition. Time to act Turnbull - you options are limited, but the man is slowly pulling your party apart - he has too much power as a pleb, he is in the news too much, even MORE than members of your own front bench - show some leadership

Completely nailed it.

If the objective was to be wrong then yeah - completely nailed it.

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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #18 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 10:31am Abbott has nothing to contribute, eh? Below is a list of things that he has done and still does for the community: 1. Surf lifesaving. 2. Firefighting. 3. Raising funds to find a cure for breast cancer. Below are what Gillard, Rudd and Turnbull have done, and do for the community:
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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #19 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 10:32am

matty wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 10:31am:

Abbott has nothing to contribute, eh? Below is a list of things that he has done and still does for the community:

1. Surf lifesaving.
2. Firefighting.
3. Raising funds to find a cure for breast cancer.

Below are what Gillard, Rudd and Turnbull have done, and do for the community:

Tony is a d1ckhead.

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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #20 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 11:34am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 6:26am:

Vic wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The more the focus remains on Abbott, the weaker Turnbull's senior leadership group will become. Either promote the man back into the ministry and give him a single focus or, let him remain on the backbench making public comments and risk more leaks and white anting.

Abbott is a fool, was the worst PM we have ever had, and was/will be a terrible choice for a representative position BUT, it is fairly obvious he will not resign or stand aside for another candidate at this year's election. So Turnbull is stuck with him and, he is dangerous to the Coalition. Time to act Turnbull - you options are limited, but the man is slowly pulling your party apart - he has too much power as a pleb, he is in the news too much, even MORE than members of your own front bench - show some leadership

Wrong. The worst PM we ever had was Rudd.

Preferred PM, Rudd vs Turnbull, Newspoll November 25-27 2009: Rudd 65 Turnbull 14 Grin

When did Abbott ever record figures like that as PM? Never. And against Shorten, too. He never even got preferred PM over 50.

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #21 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 11:37am matty wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 10:31am: Abbott has nothing to contribute, eh? Below is a list of things that he has done and still does for the community: 1. Surf lifesaving. 2. Firefighting. 3. Raising funds to find a cure for breast cancer. None of which requires a seat in Parliament.
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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #22 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 11:55am

matty wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 10:31am:

Abbott has nothing to contribute, eh? Below is a list of things that he has done and still does for the community:

1. Surf lifesaving.
2. Firefighting.
3. Raising funds to find a cure for breast cancer.

Below are what Gillard, Rudd and Turnbull have done, and do for the community:

Don't forget the work he's done with and for Aboriginal communities, often without any media coverage whatsoever.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150296 Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #23 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 1:06pm matty wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 10:31am: Abbott has nothing to contribute, eh? That's correct.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89846 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #24 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 1:12pm The thought of Abetz on Abbott bedazzles the mind....
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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #25 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 1:14pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

matty wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 10:31am:

Abbott has nothing to contribute, eh? Below is a list of things that he has done and still does for the community:

1. Surf lifesaving.
2. Firefighting.
3. Raising funds to find a cure for breast cancer.

Below are what Gillard, Rudd and Turnbull have done, and do for the community:

Don't forget the work he's done with and for Aboriginal communities, often without any media coverage whatsoever.

How do you know about it, then?

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #26 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 1:43pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 1:12pm: The thought of Abetz on Abbott bedazzles the mind.... Colonel Klink on Tony Dumb Dumb ...
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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #27 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 1:46pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

matty wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 10:31am:

Abbott has nothing to contribute, eh? Below is a list of things that he has done and still does for the community:

1. Surf lifesaving.
2. Firefighting.
3. Raising funds to find a cure for breast cancer.

Below are what Gillard, Rudd and Turnbull have done, and do for the community:

Don't forget the work he's done with and for Aboriginal communities, often without any media coverage whatsoever.

We all knew he had been up that way when he wanted to shutdown remote communities

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Re: Abetz on Abbott
Reply #28 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 1:50pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 6:26am:

Vic wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The more the focus remains on Abbott, the weaker Turnbull's senior leadership group will become. Either promote the man back into the ministry and give him a single focus or, let him remain on the backbench making public comments and risk more leaks and white anting.

Abbott is a fool, was the worst PM we have ever had, and was/will be a terrible choice for a representative position BUT, it is fairly obvious he will not resign or stand aside for another candidate at this year's election. So Turnbull is stuck with him and, he is dangerous to the Coalition. Time to act Turnbull - you options are limited, but the man is slowly pulling your party apart - he has too much power as a pleb, he is in the news too much, even MORE than members of your own front bench - show some leadership

Wrong. The worst PM we ever had was Rudd. No other PM has turned a successful government policy into a revenue-draining deathtrap that caused long-term psychological harm to RAN & Customs personnel. I am, of course, referring to Rudd's ego-driven decision to abolish the highly successful Pacific Solution and replace it with his "more humane" policy, which resulted in more than 50,000 people arriving on nearly 800 boats, with at least 1,100 people dead, RAN & Customs personnel traumatised by pulling dead bodies from the water almost weekly at a cost to taxpayers of more than $2 billion per year. Then there was Rudd's deadly pink batts scheme that not only killed a number of young men inside scorching roofs, it also caused more than 100 house fires and when Rudd rushed to close it down, hundreds of businesses went bankrupt overnight as they were unable to do anything with the now worthless pink batts they'd purchased to meet the demand from Rudd's policy shambles. The same happened with Rudd's solar panel policy, albeit without the deaths but still with a lot of businesses going belly-up when Rudd shut it down overnight without warning. Rudd is the only PM in our history to have implemented new policy or changed existing policy and to have had those changes directly lead to people being killed. He was not only our worst Prime Minister EVER, he was an extremely lethal Prime Minister!

Rudd was awful but Abort has set the bar so high its unlikely there will ever be a shitter PM , ever.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61237 Here Gender:	Re: Abetz on Abbott Reply #29 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 2:32pm Abbott gave Abetz a prime position at the trough, he will have his loyalty for life or until someone makes a better offer whichever comes first.
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