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Reply #15 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 12:28pm

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:30am:

I agree corruption should be stamped out, but most of the findings of "thuggery" were Unions just doing their job and often having to step around corporate suits to do it (like getting on work sites to inspect safety complaints while the corporate body would do anything to not allow them on) the vast majority of infractions found were basically low level stuff like this or dear god, people striking! How evil! I find it hilarious the numerous accounts of CORPORATE thuggery uncovered, one of which involved private firearm pulled on Union officials, is apparently not an issue.

Only the right would make up crap that nobody doesn't want to see corruption squashed in the Unions, but suddenly when its corporate corruption, collusion often between members of the LNP and the business world, suddenly its A-OK.

This is why everyone on the left has been pushing for a Federal ICAC while the right sits on their hands.

From the RC could you give examples of this thuggery as "doing their job"?

Or is this just your humble opinion that the thuggery is them doing their job and has no basis for this opinion other than to defend the left?

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Reply #16 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 12:38pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Good to see all the resident Leftoids agreeing with the findings and the necessity of the RC and that union's collusive bullying and mob intimidation tactics are a throw back to a bygone era. Welcome to the 21st century.

Some of the things the RC uncovered were worthwhile but the problem is that the RC was a politically motivated Union / Labor bashing exercise and has very little credibility.

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Reply #18 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 12:49pm

Agree totally with simon crean. Unions must get their house in order as Shorten was saying just before xmas " THERE IS NO ROOM FOR CORRUPTION IN THE LABOR PARTY OR THE UNION MOVEMENT".Now, can one of you gentlemen from the right tell me what steps have been taken by the NSW liberals to clean out the proven corruption within their ranks. Are property developers with brown paper bags still welcome as donors? Has anything been done about the corruption surrounding the North Sydney forum?

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Reply #19 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 1:04pm

macman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

Agree totally with simon crean. Unions must get their house in order as Shorten was saying just before xmas " THERE IS NO ROOM FOR CORRUPTION IN THE LABOR PARTY OR THE UNION MOVEMENT".Now, can one of you gentlemen from the right tell me what steps have been taken by the NSW liberals to clean out the proven corruption within their ranks. Are property developers with brown paper bags still welcome as donors? Has anything been done about the corruption surrounding the North Sydney forum?

Joe's emigrating........

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Reply #20 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 2:33pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:17am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:14am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Good to see all the resident Leftoids agreeing with the findings and the necessity of the RC and that union's collusive bullying and mob intimidation tactics are a throw back to a bygone era. Welcome to the 21st century.

wow ... how did you manage to twist it into that convoluted rant? No one mentioned the RC or it's findings. Cheesy

Simon said..... Cheesy

...OK, I'll give you that one!

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Reply #21 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 2:34pm

macman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

Agree totally with simon crean. Unions must get their house in order as Shorten was saying just before xmas " THERE IS NO ROOM FOR CORRUPTION IN THE LABOR PARTY OR THE UNION MOVEMENT".Now, can one of you gentlemen from the right tell me what steps have been taken by the NSW liberals to clean out the proven corruption within their ranks. Are property developers with brown paper bags still welcome as donors? Has anything been done about the corruption surrounding the North Sydney forum?

ZIP , NIL, and NADA to each of your questions

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Reply #22 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:25pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:08am:

Simon is 100% correct.

Bad Luck Bogey but "lefties" as you call us are actually thinking, principled people.

You won't find many going the "But they did it 1st" road as you see in every the Dutton/Briggs & every thread critical of "Righties"
Wink

as long as none of the actions taken to correct involves Liberal govt legislation, liberal govt-initiated royal commisions or any laws that might make unions transparent.

you want to outcomes of honesty and integrity with none of the hard efforts to make it happen.

wel all know a labor govt is never going to reign in the unions in any effective way and you lefties with automatically oppose ANY liberal govt attempt to do so.

you are hypocrites which at least means you are consistent.

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Reply #23 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:26pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:14am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Good to see all the resident Leftoids agreeing with the findings and the necessity of the RC and that union's collusive bullying and mob intimidation tactics are a throw back to a bygone era. Welcome to the 21st century.

wow ... how did you manage to twist it into that convoluted rant? No one mentioned the RC or it's findings. Cheesy

and as predictable as morning... out comes a JS stupid comment proving my point.

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Reply #24 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Good to see all the resident Leftoids agreeing with the findings.

Absolutely. We're sensible, reasonable people.

Everything Simon Crean said is correct.

It's a shame, however, that some of those on the right can't accept the findings:

"There is no submission that Mr Bill Shorten may have engaged in any criminal or unlawful conduct."

https://www.tradeunionroyalcommission.gov.au/Media/Pages/2015-media-releases/6-N...

is this going to be your new 'boat people' style rant? where you shout loudly that the best thing you can say about shorten is that he didnt do anything illegal/unlawful?

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Reply #25 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:29pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:14am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Good to see all the resident Leftoids agreeing with the findings and the necessity of the RC and that union's collusive bullying and mob intimidation tactics are a throw back to a bygone era. Welcome to the 21st century.

wow ... how did you manage to twist it into that convoluted rant? No one mentioned the RC or it's findings. Cheesy

and as predictable as morning... out comes a JS stupid comment proving my point.

He was right, it does look like another convoluted rant.

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Reply #26 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:14am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Good to see all the resident Leftoids agreeing with the findings and the necessity of the RC and that union's collusive bullying and mob intimidation tactics are a throw back to a bygone era. Welcome to the 21st century.

wow ... how did you manage to twist it into that convoluted rant? No one mentioned the RC or it's findings. Cheesy

and as predictable as morning... out comes a JS stupid comment proving my point.

Only if your point was to show the world what a dumb dickhead you are.

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Reply #27 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:14am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Good to see all the resident Leftoids agreeing with the findings and the necessity of the RC and that union's collusive bullying and mob intimidation tactics are a throw back to a bygone era. Welcome to the 21st century.

wow ... how did you manage to twist it into that convoluted rant? No one mentioned the RC or it's findings. Cheesy

and as predictable as morning... out comes a JS stupid comment proving my point.

Speaking of predictable... Roll Eyes

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Reply #28 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:45pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 9:55am:

Former ACTU president and Labor leader Simon Crean believes unions like the CFMEU need to "get their house in order" after "substantial evidence of wrongdoing".

In light of the findings of the royal commission into trade unions, Mr Crean said steps have to be taken to make sure thuggery and intimidation don't reoccur.

"I would prefer the unions get their house in order, but if they don't it will be put in order for them. They will have to accept the consequences," he told The Australian on Friday.

my daughter used to deal with the members when she worked in comcar many years ago... and Simon Crean being one of them.. and she said he was always the real gentlemen.. knew all their names always said goodmorning and asked how they were..... most were the other way....

I have time for a gentlemen...and of course he is only talking commonsense...

not a lot understand that though do they?...

it will always come down to the members though....how much they are prepared to put up with...are they being looked after.????? are they first every time?????....

its up to them.

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Reply #29 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:25pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:08am:

Simon is 100% correct.

Bad Luck Bogey but "lefties" as you call us are actually thinking, principled people.

You won't find many going the "But they did it 1st" road as you see in every the Dutton/Briggs & every thread critical of "Righties"
Wink

as long as none of the actions taken to correct involves Liberal govt legislation, liberal govt-initiated royal commisions or any laws that might make unions transparent.

you want to outcomes of honesty and integrity with none of the hard efforts to make it happen.

wel all know a labor govt is never going to reign in the unions in any effective way and you lefties with automatically oppose ANY liberal govt attempt to do so.

you are hypocrites which at least means you are consistent.

How do you come to that conculsion?

Lets play "use Longy's reasoning"

You would never support any Labor legislation, Labor government initated RC or any laws that make business transparent and accountable for their actions or lack thereof.

Simply because you are critical of Labor governments.

Wow that was fun and insightful.

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