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Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:47pm

(here's one for Big Vic to chew over.... pops beer and popcorn)....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30509508/wa-nationals-warship-fundraiser-under-fire/

A planned West Australian Nationals fundraiser aboard an Australian Navy warship has been cancelled after it was deemed an inappropriate use of military facilities.

The $1000 per head fundraiser was scheduled to take place on board the HMAS Perth at the Stirling Naval Base this month, with Nationals leader Terry Redman and deputy Mia Davies among the special guests.

Nationals MP and organiser Paul Brown said the decision was made on Tuesday to cancel the fundraiser after an internal process deemed it an inappropriate use of Commonwealth infrastructure.

"We probably should have identified that earlier," Mr Brown told AAP on Thursday.

Federal defence minister Marise Payne said neither she nor the Australian Navy had knowledge of the event.

"Defence facilities should not be used for political fundraising purposes and it is regrettable that the original invitation was issued," Ms Payne told AAP.

The warship fundraiser was also criticised by the WA Opposition defence spokesman Paul Papalia, who labelled the private event a "disgrace".

"A non-partisan, apolitical defence force is a central pillar of the Australian democracy. Everyone knows this, the military know it," he said.

"I think the Navy would be offended and outraged if they knew that the National party of WA were intending to conduct a party fundraiser on board Navy assets."

Mr Brown said he had purchased the Naval luncheon package at a Royal Flying Doctors Service fundraiser last year, and had hoped to use the 20-person event as a National party fundraiser, but did not inform the Navy.

"The RFDS know I'm a member of parliament but we didn't specifically highlight that we were using this as a fundraiser and that's why we then came to the conclusion that it was inappropriate to use HMAS Perth for this kind of event."

Mr Brown said he would now invite disadvantaged children and families from his electorate to the event on board HMAS Perth.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39695 Gender:	Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser Reply #1 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:53pm Not good. Right decision eventually. Gee.....I wonder if the same standard applies to the Speaker's Rooms in Parliament where, if rumour is of any value, Big Jobs Bishop hosted Liberal Party fundraisers?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser Reply #2 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:55pm Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:53pm: Not good. Right decision eventually. Gee.....I wonder if the same standard applies to the Speaker's Rooms in Parliament where, if rumour is of any value, Big Jobs Bishop hosted Liberal Party fundraisers? in your own office??? u r very petty.
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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #3 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:57pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Not good. Right decision eventually. Gee.....I wonder if the same standard applies to the Speaker's Rooms in Parliament where, if rumour is of any value, Big Jobs Bishop hosted Liberal Party fundraisers?

in your own office??? u r very petty.

It is not her Office. It is a taxpayer provided facility in the publicly owned Parliament House. Do you believe the rumours or was it all just scuttlebutt?

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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #4 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:21pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Not good. Right decision eventually. Gee.....I wonder if the same standard applies to the Speaker's Rooms in Parliament where, if rumour is of any value, Big Jobs Bishop hosted Liberal Party fundraisers?

in your own office??? u r very petty.

It is not her Office. It is a taxpayer provided facility in the publicly owned Parliament House. Do you believe the rumours or was it all just scuttlebutt?

you are the supposed lawyer. apply the laws of evidence.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #5 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:52pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Not good. Right decision eventually. Gee.....I wonder if the same standard applies to the Speaker's Rooms in Parliament where, if rumour is of any value, Big Jobs Bishop hosted Liberal Party fundraisers?

in your own office??? u r very petty.

It is not her Office. It is a taxpayer provided facility in the publicly owned Parliament House. Do you believe the rumours or was it all just scuttlebutt?

you are the supposed lawyer. apply the laws of evidence.

As I have said a zillion times.....I am a retired Lawyer. Can you help us out here? Is it all just rumour, or did she actually hold Liberal Party fundraisers in her Speaker Rooms?

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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #6 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Not good. Right decision eventually. Gee.....I wonder if the same standard applies to the Speaker's Rooms in Parliament where, if rumour is of any value, Big Jobs Bishop hosted Liberal Party fundraisers?

in your own office??? u r very petty.

It is not her Office. It is a taxpayer provided facility in the publicly owned Parliament House. Do you believe the rumours or was it all just scuttlebutt?

you are the supposed lawyer. apply the laws of evidence.

Arsie only knows about Queensland Traffic Law. Roll Eyes

He has to do what the rest of us do, check out the Law about Murder ... in Queensland on Google. It is slightly different elsewhere in Oz. Grin

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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #7 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:08pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Not good. Right decision eventually. Gee.....I wonder if the same standard applies to the Speaker's Rooms in Parliament where, if rumour is of any value, Big Jobs Bishop hosted Liberal Party fundraisers?

in your own office??? u r very petty.

It is not her Office. It is a taxpayer provided facility in the publicly owned Parliament House. Do you believe the rumours or was it all just scuttlebutt?

you are the supposed lawyer. apply the laws of evidence.

As I have said a zillion times.....I am a retired Lawyer. Can you help us out here? Is it all just rumour, or did she actually hold Liberal Party fundraisers in her Speaker Rooms?

melielongtime?

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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #8 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:16pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:47pm:

(here's one for Big Vic to chew over.... pops beer and popcorn)....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30509508/wa-nationals-warship-fundraiser-under-fire/

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A planned West Australian Nationals fundraiser aboard an Australian Navy warship has been cancelled after it was deemed an inappropriate use of military facilities.

The $1000 per head fundraiser was scheduled to take place on board the HMAS Perth at the Stirling Naval Base this month, with Nationals leader Terry Redman and deputy Mia Davies among the special guests.

Always hated when the idiot pollies came around for their 'military photo ops', fkken beasley was the biggest pain in the @sre. Frggen wasting everyone's time pretending he was their to see how we were going, just there to get a shot playing with the toys. Angry

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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #9 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm

This isn't the only time the Coalition parties have been caught using inappropriate means to raise funds since the Abbott-led Coalition won in 2013.

* This use of military facilities by the nationals for a National party fundraiser (cancelled)
* Issuing an invitation to a current Royal Commissioner to speak at a Liberal party fundraiser (cancelled)
* Bronwyn Bishop's use of a helicopter to attend a fundraiser for the Victorian Liberals that she then charged to the taxpayer
* Bronwyn Bishop's use of the Speaker's office to host a fundraiser for the Liberals
* Hockey and the North Sydney Forum - implicated for corrupt misconduct in ICAC

And this won't be the last!

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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #10 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:47pm:

(here's one for Big Vic to chew over.... pops beer and popcorn)....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30509508/wa-nationals-warship-fundraiser-under-fire/

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A planned West Australian Nationals fundraiser aboard an Australian Navy warship has been cancelled after it was deemed an inappropriate use of military facilities.

The $1000 per head fundraiser was scheduled to take place on board the HMAS Perth at the Stirling Naval Base this month, with Nationals leader Terry Redman and deputy Mia Davies among the special guests.

Always hated when the idiot pollies came around for their 'military photo ops', fkken beasley was the biggest pain in the @sre. Frggen wasting everyone's time pretending he was their to see how we were going, just there to get a shot playing with the toys. Angry

Don't forget Atherton.... he was the honcho then and much of the fault was laid at the feet of maintenance and training and equipment.

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Reply #11 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:17pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Not good. Right decision eventually. Gee.....I wonder if the same standard applies to the Speaker's Rooms in Parliament where, if rumour is of any value, Big Jobs Bishop hosted Liberal Party fundraisers?

in your own office??? u r very petty.

It is not her Office. It is a taxpayer provided facility in the publicly owned Parliament House. Do you believe the rumours or was it all just scuttlebutt?

you are the supposed lawyer. apply the laws of evidence.

That's 'rules of evidence' - evidence has no laws..... but then.. I'm no lawyer.....

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Reply #12 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:26pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:47pm:

(here's one for Big Vic to chew over.... pops beer and popcorn)....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30509508/wa-nationals-warship-fundraiser-under-fire/

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A planned West Australian Nationals fundraiser aboard an Australian Navy warship has been cancelled after it was deemed an inappropriate use of military facilities.

The $1000 per head fundraiser was scheduled to take place on board the HMAS Perth at the Stirling Naval Base this month, with Nationals leader Terry Redman and deputy Mia Davies among the special guests.

Always hated when the idiot pollies came around for their 'military photo ops', fkken beasley was the biggest pain in the @sre. Frggen wasting everyone's time pretending he was their to see how we were going, just there to get a shot playing with the toys. Angry

Ahh beasly they were the good old days

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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #13 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:33pm

Bam wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

This isn't the only time the Coalition parties have been caught using inappropriate means to raise funds since the Abbott-led Coalition won in 2013.

* This use of military facilities by the nationals for a National party fundraiser (cancelled)
* Issuing an invitation to a current Royal Commissioner to speak at a Liberal party fundraiser (cancelled)
* Bronwyn Bishop's use of a helicopter to attend a fundraiser for the Victorian Liberals that she then charged to the taxpayer
* Bronwyn Bishop's use of the Speaker's office to host a fundraiser for the Liberals
* Hockey and the North Sydney Forum - implicated for corrupt misconduct in ICAC

And this won't be the last!

Indeed. But ~ you swine......you neutered my baited hook set for melielongtime!!!!!!!! Agh!!!!!!!

That will go down in my little black book!

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Re: Navy nearly used for Nationals fundraiser
Reply #14 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:03pm

Dear Sir/Madam,

Greetings Fellow National!

You are cordially invited to a polite soiree on my small and unpretentious yacht,

HMAS Perth

The purpose of the soiree is to raise money for my election campaign, and thus the small cost of $1000 a head, and all catering will be undertaken at Navy expense using Navy stewards, who will serve rum and bilgewater, which, alongside buggary and the lash, I am assured is a tradition in the Royal Australian Navy.

RSVP - and BYOWhips - Buggary provided free of charge.

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