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Reply #315 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 2:18am
 
Is this the 'masculinity' being sought after, Wes?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01/20/asylum-seekers-red-front-door-aparthe...

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They also recollected incidents of having had dog excrement smeared across the entrance to their homes and eggs and stones being thrown at windows. A 'National Front' logo was carved into the door of one house.
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Reply #316 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:28am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 12:52am:
What is the evidence that 'strong men aren't exactly thick on the ground in Europe?'


Not only Europe, but the whole anglosphere.  Exhibit A:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 12:52am:
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What a weak retort.

I would have just ignored it if that was all I could come up with. 

ok, ok, if you insist.

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To these individuals, strong European women are ‘easy’ and easy victims; they have respect only for strong men – and strong men aren't exactly thick on the ground in Europe.

What is the evidence that 'strong men aren't exactly thick on the ground in Europe?'

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A recent survey conducted by the Pew Research Centre shows that the number of young men in the US who want to marry has dropped to the lowest level ever recorded.

The underlying reasons could very well be because modern relationships have changed, defacto relationships are rising, and people prefer casual sex.  Big deal. What does this have to do with a lack of masculinity, or how is a lack of belief in religious marriage anyway a stat to demonstrate a lack of masculinity? 

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Since the 1960s, modern mothers have raised their sons to be women, soaking them in feminine values like accepting responsibility for household chores, being caring, understanding and attentive, and bend to every wish of the woman. This has produced a generation of soft, insecure men, who are out of touch with their masculine nature, identity and strength

Oh? Doing household chores is now a genetic thing is it? I'd love to see the study that shows a man shouldn't naturally clean the dishes, or learn to cook. 

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Today, many boys also grow up with no father in the home and have no male role models. The average modern Western male has been feminized, with no knowledge or habit of manly virtues like courage, resolve, self-sacrifice, justice, temperance, self-reliance, self-discipline and honour.

My favourite line paragraph. What horsesh1t.

1. Rape stats across the western world have reduced since men obtained more respect for women. That's a fact.
2. Men these days are a lot more self reliant than the men of the pre 1950s, who could only ever wear a wife beater and demand bacon and eggs because they didn't know themselves how to cook an egg.  People's specialities, or skills, have also been more streamlined as a result of societal evolution, not because men no longer want to hurt their fingers hammering in a few nails to fix a door. 
3. Self-discipline - drinking rates are down, health of men is up, rape is down, smoking is down, wtf is this woman on about?????
4. Honour - Again I'd love to see the stats she uses to claim men are no longer honourable, as opposed to pre-women rights era.
5. Justice and Temperance - one thing to think about with Europe: Most countries still do national service, and most men (and now women) participate in national service. So to suggest somehow that the idea of justice and temperance has disappeared is absolute nonsense. Justice isn't about 'you rape a woman I'll go burn down every one's businesses.'

This woman writes as if the reason why german women were raped in Cologne on News Day by immigrants was because the local men weren't raping them. That's basically her argument. 

I will agree that the attempts to hide the rapes by authorities is stupid and wrong, but unfortunately almost proven justified by the nazis who then went ahead and decided to burn down private businesses.  But that is not a sign of 'feminism'. That's a sign of dumb policy. In the end, the reason that these rapes occurred is because these male dominated cultures are a little backwards, perhaps because they haven't had the reach of feminism. And these men think of women as objects, especially white women who they see portrayed on TV as enjoying sex, so of course why wouldn't they enjoy sex with a complete stranger on the steps of the railway?  That's the cause. It's not the 'lack of masculinity' in society. Males masculinity is in tact. It isn't determined by whether the male is the breadwinner in the household and gets to come home, get down to his underpants and wife beater, and demand a steak for dinner. No, masculinity is in fact defined by courage, resolve, self-sacrifice, justice, temperance, self-reliance, self-discipline and honour. And all of these virtues have been on the rise in Europe, not in decline. Especially when we compare societies in Europe with man-dominated societies in developing countries across the world. 70% marital rape in India is enough of a stat to demonstrate this columnist is a nut who has no idea what she's saying.



We've been implored to "get in touch with our feminine side" for as long as I can remember.  You should be proud, because you've done an A+ job of that.
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Re: Merkel & the refugees
Reply #317 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:36am
 
... wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:28am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 12:52am:
What is the evidence that 'strong men aren't exactly thick on the ground in Europe?'


Not only Europe, but the whole anglosphere.  Exhibit A:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 12:52am:
... wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:28am:
What a weak retort.

I would have just ignored it if that was all I could come up with. 

ok, ok, if you insist.

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To these individuals, strong European women are ‘easy’ and easy victims; they have respect only for strong men – and strong men aren't exactly thick on the ground in Europe.

What is the evidence that 'strong men aren't exactly thick on the ground in Europe?'

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A recent survey conducted by the Pew Research Centre shows that the number of young men in the US who want to marry has dropped to the lowest level ever recorded.

The underlying reasons could very well be because modern relationships have changed, defacto relationships are rising, and people prefer casual sex.  Big deal. What does this have to do with a lack of masculinity, or how is a lack of belief in religious marriage anyway a stat to demonstrate a lack of masculinity? 

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Since the 1960s, modern mothers have raised their sons to be women, soaking them in feminine values like accepting responsibility for household chores, being caring, understanding and attentive, and bend to every wish of the woman. This has produced a generation of soft, insecure men, who are out of touch with their masculine nature, identity and strength

Oh? Doing household chores is now a genetic thing is it? I'd love to see the study that shows a man shouldn't naturally clean the dishes, or learn to cook. 

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Today, many boys also grow up with no father in the home and have no male role models. The average modern Western male has been feminized, with no knowledge or habit of manly virtues like courage, resolve, self-sacrifice, justice, temperance, self-reliance, self-discipline and honour.

My favourite line paragraph. What horsesh1t.

1. Rape stats across the western world have reduced since men obtained more respect for women. That's a fact.
2. Men these days are a lot more self reliant than the men of the pre 1950s, who could only ever wear a wife beater and demand bacon and eggs because they didn't know themselves how to cook an egg.  People's specialities, or skills, have also been more streamlined as a result of societal evolution, not because men no longer want to hurt their fingers hammering in a few nails to fix a door. 
3. Self-discipline - drinking rates are down, health of men is up, rape is down, smoking is down, wtf is this woman on about?????
4. Honour - Again I'd love to see the stats she uses to claim men are no longer honourable, as opposed to pre-women rights era.
5. Justice and Temperance - one thing to think about with Europe: Most countries still do national service, and most men (and now women) participate in national service. So to suggest somehow that the idea of justice and temperance has disappeared is absolute nonsense. Justice isn't about 'you rape a woman I'll go burn down every one's businesses.'

This woman writes as if the reason why german women were raped in Cologne on News Day by immigrants was because the local men weren't raping them. That's basically her argument. 

I will agree that the attempts to hide the rapes by authorities is stupid and wrong, but unfortunately almost proven justified by the nazis who then went ahead and decided to burn down private businesses.  But that is not a sign of 'feminism'. That's a sign of dumb policy. In the end, the reason that these rapes occurred is because these male dominated cultures are a little backwards, perhaps because they haven't had the reach of feminism. And these men think of women as objects, especially white women who they see portrayed on TV as enjoying sex, so of course why wouldn't they enjoy sex with a complete stranger on the steps of the railway?  That's the cause. It's not the 'lack of masculinity' in society. Males masculinity is in tact. It isn't determined by whether the male is the breadwinner in the household and gets to come home, get down to his underpants and wife beater, and demand a steak for dinner. No, masculinity is in fact defined by courage, resolve, self-sacrifice, justice, temperance, self-reliance, self-discipline and honour. And all of these virtues have been on the rise in Europe, not in decline. Especially when we compare societies in Europe with man-dominated societies in developing countries across the world. 70% marital rape in India is enough of a stat to demonstrate this columnist is a nut who has no idea what she's saying.



We've been implored to "get in touch with our feminine side" for as long as I can remember.  You should be proud, because you've done an A+ job of that. 

What a weak retort.

I would have just ignored it if that was all I could come up with.
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Reply #318 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38am
 
Passive aggression is a feminine trait.
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Reply #319 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:53am
 
You display such a shallow and misguided understanding of masculinity - equating it to nothing more than being an asshole - that I'm not entirely convinced you are male.  Nobody ever suggested being male made you a good man.  This is why most cultures have rites of passage to manhood.  Tellingly, we fo not.

Suffice to say, to correct all the misconceptions, both deliberate and genuine, would take more time than I have.  It's all pretty standard boilerplate stuff, but the most egregious claims are these:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:36am:
1. Rape stats across the western world have reduced since men obtained more respect for women. That's a fact.
2. Men these days are a lot more self reliant than the men of the pre 1950s, who could only ever wear a wife beater and demand bacon and eggs because they didn't know themselves how to cook an egg.  People's specialities, or skills, have also been more streamlined as a result of societal evolution, not because men no longer want to hurt their fingers hammering in a few nails to fix a door. 
3. Self-discipline - drinking rates are down, health of men is up, rape is down, smoking is down, wtf is this woman on about?????
4. Honour - Again I'd love to see the stats she uses to claim men are no longer honourable, as opposed to pre-women rights era.
5. Justice and Temperance - one thing to think about with Europe: Most countries still do national service, and most men (and now women) participate in national service. So to suggest somehow that the idea of justice and temperance has disappeared is absolute nonsense. Justice isn't about 'you rape a woman I'll go burn down every one's businesses.'


1.  Something so vague and emotionally based cannot ever be accurately described as "fact".  When did "men obtain more respect for women"?  was it a moment in time?  How much "more"?  All these questions cannot be answered, because your assertion is wishy-washy (feminine) nonsense.

2.  I'm sure they knew how, they just didn't want to.  But now their women aren't pulling their weight, they have to.  Im quite capable of cooking lots of dishes due to time spent living alone.  Now that Im married though, I'm not going to - I work, she looks after the house.  A fair split.  That men these days are too weak to negotiate a fair split is an illustration , not a refutation.


3.  Are these rates down?  Bet they're not - and that theyre up signficiantly in women.  Other factors to a lack of self discipline - for example obesity, and abortion are undoubtedly way up.  Was this a genuine misunderstanding, or contrived baloney?  I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not sure I can.

4.  There is no honour is deliberate misrepresentation.  Without it the  entire globalist, multicultural rainbow agenda could not stand.  There is no honour in selling out your people for an ideology.  Honour is not even a consideration for most.

5. There are many officials stating plainly that they've been ordered to cover up migrant crimes, and has had it made very difficult for them to puinish offenders.  Wheres the justice?
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Reply #321 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:16am
 
Four million migrants could reach Europe by the end of 2017, the International Monetary Fund has warned.

In new forecasts, the organisation adjusted its estimates to conclude 1.3million people could move to Europe every year between 2015 - 2017.

It added the Middle East refugees should boost European economic growth over the short term, but their longer-term impact would depend on efforts to integrate them. . . .

'Slow integration reflects factors such as lack of language skills and transferable job qualifications, as well as barriers to job search.'

The report comes as governments across Europe wrestle with the political, social and economic implications of admitting huge numbers of migrants fleeing the conflicts in Syria and elsewhere.

More than one million refugees flooded into Europe last year seeking asylum, and in many countries, the administrative apparatus for handling such a large influx is overwhelmed.

Focused solely on the economic impact, the IMF study said economies in countries receiving the migrants would grow more at the initial stage, due to public spending to accommodate them.

However, the IMF said: 'In the long run, the economic impact will depend on the speed of integration of refugees into the labor market.'

The study acknowledged the deep worries over the possibility of migrants taking away local jobs, especially in a period of already elevated unemployment.

It comes just a day after statistics showed an estimated 31,244 migrants have braved the deadly boat crossing over the Mediterranean Sea to Greece in the first 16 days of this year.

The shocking statistic represents 21 times the number of migrants who crossed during the same period in January 2015, according to the International Organisation for Migration.



It is expected that the number of new arrivals to Greece is likely to exceed the 853,650 migrants who crossed over to Greece by sea last year.

Almost half [48 per cent] of the migrants who have made the journey are Syrian nationals, fleeing the longstanding war in their homeland.
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Reply #322 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:32am
 
This is what they're living with now and into the future:

A Cologne imam has said the victims of the New Years Eve mob sex attacks had themselves to blame because they wore perfume.
Sami Abu-Yusuf added that he was not surprised the girls were sexually assaulted, groped and raped, because of the way they dressed.
Hundreds of women were attacked by a mob of men in Cologne's city centre on New Years Eve, with the number of alleged sexual assaults now tallying up to 521, including three rapes.

'The events of New Year's Eve were the girls own fault, because they were half naked and wearing perfume,' Mr Abu-Yusuf told Russian TV according to Breitbart.

'It is not surprising the men wanted to attack them. [Dressing like that] is like adding fuel to the fire'.

Sami Abu-Yusuf is the Imam of the Al Tawheed mosque in Cologne, preaching Salafism - an ultra-conservative form of Sunni Islam.
The mosque has been investigated by German intelligence in the past, and was raided in 2004 to break up a 'secret network of Arab Mujahideen', according to Breitbart.

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Reply #323 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:04am
 
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5. There are many officials stating plainly that they've been ordered to cover up migrant crimes, and has had it made very difficult for them to puinish offenders.  Wheres the justice?


Really? Who? Where?
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German officials have ordered a cover-up of crimes committed by migrants to prevent causing alarm, a local newspaper has claimed.

Asylum seekers are being recruited across the country as cheap drug dealers as well as petty thieves, says German newspaper, Bild - the biggest daily paper in the country.

The paper accused the police of covering up the extent of migrant crimes in order to stop concerns among the general population.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3378985/Police-Germany-covering-extent-m...
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A German police officer told media that law enforcement cannot efficiently tackle crime among refugees without being accused of excessive violence or racism, while many dangerous incidents are played down or kept secret to maintain desirable statistics.

...when a refugee needs to be controlled, the police cannot arrest him even for a while, the officer said, citing “superior orders” prescribing not to use coercive actions. “Our domestic rule is – better to let him run away.”


https://www.rt.com/news/328628-german-police-officer-refugees/



and the cov er up is happening through less official, but more influential channels too:

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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg was caught discussing the censorship of anti-migrant posts at the United Nations development summit Saturday while speaking with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

According to CNBC, the pair were picked up by a hot mic after Merkel confronted Zuckerberg on social media posts critical of “the wave of Syrian refugees entering Germany.”

After being asked about Facebook’s efforts to curtail speech, Zuckerberg stated, “We need to do some work,” confirming he’d already started looking at ways to hinder comments in opposition to Merkel’s immigration stance.

“Are you working on this?” Merkel asked. “Yeah,” Zuckerberg responded before their microphone was cut.


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Reply #325 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:17am
 
... wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:53am:
There are many officials stating plainly that they've been ordered to cover up migrant crimes ...


Many officials, or one German newspaper reporter?

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[quote]German officials have ordered a cover-up of crimes committed by migrants to prevent causing alarm, a local newspaper has claimed.


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Where's your honour, front bottom?
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Reply #328 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:23am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:17am:
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There are many officials stating plainly that they've been ordered to cover up migrant crimes ...


Many officials, or one German newspaper reporter?



What's an official? A candidate for the Kraut version of UKIP?
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Reply #329 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:27am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:22am:
... wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:15am:
[quote]German officials have ordered a cover-up of crimes committed by migrants to prevent causing alarm, a local newspaper has claimed.


Ah.


You have reason to doubt it, or have a counter claim?  Let's hear it.
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