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Reply #872 - Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:04am
 
athos wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 9:53am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 3:07pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 10:38am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 10:34am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 10:29am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 7:49am:
Heres some light reading for you and little volodya.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia


Precisely.

Autonomous Muslim republics infinitely more different in every way to white, Christian Russia than Australia is to Britain.


You obviously missed the entire point.


Thanks for the 'heads up' on what is the host country of 'Russia' - as opposed to the 'cling-on' mini-States down south where the barbarians have their territorial ghettoes.



Vladimir Putin was born and raised in Leningrad, U.S.S.R., now known as St. Petersburg, Russia.

Putin had, in classic Soviet fashion, a secular upbringing. His father was a “model Communist” and a “militant atheist,” though his mother was a devout Eastern Orthodox Christian1 and she had young Putin secretly baptized into that church.2

It was merely symbolic, however, as Putin went through the bulk of his adult life–rising through the ranks of the KGB and the Soviet Communist Party–conforming to Soviet secular convention.

It wasn’t until the double-whammy of 1) his wife’s car accident in 1993 and 2) a life-threatening house fire in 1996 that Putin began questioning his atheism. During a vulnerable moment before Putin departed for a diplomatic trip to Israel, his mother gave him a baptismal cross. He said of the occasion:

I did as she said and then put the cross around my neck. I have never taken it off since.3

Now, Putin has become a bit of a zealot. He seems to want to reestablish a pre-Soviet combination of church and state, saying:

First and foremost we should be governed by common sense. But common sense should be based on moral principles first. And it is not possible today to have morality separated from religious values.4

Furthermore, Putin has proposed compulsory religion and ethics classes for Russian students.5

There are many reports of collusion between the Russian Orthodox clergy and the Russian government, with each of them fighting the other’s battles for them. The most recent example to receive worldwide attention was the Pussy Riot debacle, in which the girl-punk band sang at a church in Moscow: “Mother of God, Blessed Virgin, drive out Putin.”6 Both the church and the government were outraged and the band was sentenced to two years of prison labor.7

The western world erupted in outrage and, recalling Soviet oppression of artists and intellectuals, condemned the sentence as theocratic totalitarianism. Even the Obama administration weighed in, saying:

While we understand the group’s behavior was offensive for some, we have concerns about the way these young women were treated by the Russian judicial system.8

Still, Putin’s religiosity is a blessing to some in the international community. The Eastern Orthodox Church has asked him to protect Christians worldwide, and he has agreed. Russia’s controversial support of Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria is due to Putin’s concern that the Christian minority in that country will be persecuted if Assad is toppled



Lady neighbor who was with his mother when Putin was secretly baptized witnessed what happened :

'When we quietly enter the Church and  the Monk saw one and half month old Putin he immediately tuned to his mother and said: “Your son is special, he will save the Russia”.

Putin never saved Russia.

And I'm sure the monk said that to all the babies.
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Reply #875 - Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:05am
 
It’s time for Merkel to go
Oliver Marc Hartwich  |
4 Feb, 5:00 AM  |
Last week, I wrote about the sorry state of Europe and the person most responsible for it: Angela Merkel (A mess of Merkel’s own making, January 28). This week, we will take a closer look at the German Chancellor, her record — and her prospects of staying in power.

To begin with, I have to admit how astonished I am to be writing this piece. Only half a year ago, I explained how boring German politics under Merkel had become (Under Merkel, Germany is asleep at the wheel, August 8). At the time, her position seemed virtually unassailable and the 2017 election result a foregone conclusion. Not anymore.
As regular readers of this column will know, I have never been a member of the Merkel fan club. To me, she has always been an unprincipled ditherer.
Merkel was someone who used to subject any political decision to the question of whether it helped her secure her position. She never stood for anything other than herself, she changed her mind whenever it suited her popularity, and she killed off any potential rivals in the process.

But even I have to admit, she was bloody good at it. Until September 4 2015.

On that day, Merkel opened the border for Syrian refugees stranded in Hungary. In doing so, she sent out a strong signal to any would-be migrant that embarking on the way to Germany may be a good idea. This in turn triggered a chain reaction of events domestically and internationally which Merkel is no longer able to control.

Whatever possessed Merkel that day, it has revealed a side of her we had not seen before.

Whether it is finally a principled stance or just her stubbornness to refuse admitting a mistake, for the first time in her chancellorship Merkel is pursuing a policy that is hugely costly, deeply divisive and probably illegal. And yet she is sticking to it, come what may.

‘Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,’ Merkel seemed to tell the world. Unfortunately, this did not turn her into a German statue of liberty but into a failed chancellor. Her open-door policy is dangerously destabilising Germany’s political system, burdening the country with enormous fiscal and social liabilities while isolating it internationally. Each of these ‘achievements’ on its own would be enough to warrant Merkel’s immediate resignation.
To begin with the political consequences of Merkel’s actions, one only needs to look at opinion polls for both the national level and the three federal states in which there will be elections next month.

The latest national poll had Merkel’s Christian Democrats at 33 per cent, down from 41.5 per cent at the last election in 2013. But Merkel’s weakness is not benefiting the other main party, the Social Democrats, who are also down from 25.7 per cent to a meagre 23 per cent. The main winner is the Alternative für Deutschland, a right-wing populist party that is not even in Parliament at the moment but would score 12.5 per cent if Germany went to the polls next weekend.

For decades, it was an unwritten law of German politics that to the right of the Christian Democrats, no other party was supposed to establish itself. By abandoning her party’s core ‘law and order’ values, Merkel has vacated this space within the electoral spectrum and made the rise of nasty right-wing populism possible.
When the states of Rhineland-Palatinate, Baden-Württemberg and Saxony-Anhalt will go to the polls on March 13, we will get a taste of the new political realities. In all three of them, the AfD will easily pass the 5 per cent threshold, potentially reaching double digit results. It is a strategic disaster for Merkel’s party and for her personally. She would be the CDU leader presiding over a fracturing of the political right that had previously been united for decades.

But it is not just Merkel’s political party that is suffering from her decision no longer to police German borders. It is a costly exercise to allow vast numbers of poorly qualified migrants into the country. In December last year, the Kiel Institute for the World Economy estimated the annual costs of integrating Germany’s migrants to be up to €55bn.
Meanwhile, economist Bernd Raffelhüschen, Germany’s leading expert on generational accounting, calculated that integrating one million refugees would result in a total cost of €450bn.
However, that may be too optimistic on two counts. First, Germany has already received more than 1.1 million newcomers last year alone and more are coming. And second, Raffelhüschen assumed it would only take six years until new arrivals reached a qualification level comparable to previous migrants already in the country. If only.

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The most extreme estimate for the costs of integrating is Thilo Sarrazin’s. The former finance minister in the state of Berlin, former Bundesbank director and outspoken book author believes the lifetime costs, including family reunions, could reach EUR 1.5 trillion.

No matter what the real figure will be in the end, one thing is certain: The long-term costs of Merkel’s policy are only comparable with historic events such as Germany’s unification or the devastations caused by wars. And these are just the pecuniary costs of absorbing poorly qualified migrants. That there are social, cultural and political as well as economic and fiscal costs is plain to see.
With her policies, Merkel has also isolated Germany in Europe, as I already explained last week. Never before has post-War Germany had fewer friends and allies than in these days.
Finally, by ignoring international treaties, conventions and domestic constitutional law, Merkel has damaged trust in political institutions and the rule of law. Two former justices of Germany’s Constitutional Court, Udo di Fabio and Hans-Jürgen Papier, have now publicly condemned her policies as illegal. Papier, a former president of the court, went so far to say that “never before has there been such a discrepancy between the law and reality”.

During her tenure as Chancellor, Merkel has been responsible for a number of costly policy mistakes, chief among them the decision to switch off nuclear power stations after Fukushima and the establishment of costly bailout and guarantee schemes during the euro crisis. Each of them has burdened taxpayers with hundreds of billions of costs and implicit liabilities.

With her actions during the refugee crisis, Merkel is dwarfing even these previous policy blunders. If one were to add up all her mistakes, they can now be counted in the trillions. Again, these are just the monetary costs. In committing her mistakes, Merkel has also damaged her country’s reputation, its integration into the European Union, the European Union as an institution, the rule of law, as well as political stability in Germany and its neighbours.

With such a record, any Chancellor should have resigned a long time ago — or be kicked out by voters or at least her own party. That Merkel still clings on to power only shows how successfully she had previously purged her party of any potential rivals.

No matter how long Merkel still manages to stay in office, she will go down in history as the worst chancellor post-war Germany has ever had. The sooner she goes the better.
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What a misogynist
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Reply #878 - Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:22am
 
Sweden's anti-immigration party, Sweden Democrats, is now polling up to 28% which is higher than the country's two traditional parties.

Not surprising considering Sweden has turned almost into a war zone, with grenades in the streets, no go zones and wars between different migrant groups.

Merkel caused this!
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Reply #879 - Feb 11th, 2016 at 8:25am
 
Ms Markel is an educated women with very high IQ. After all she has PhD in Quantum Physics and worked as University lecturer and a scientific researcher.
Now the question is how come a so intelligent leader can do such stupid things in politics against own country?.
I guess there are only two possibilities either she is corrupted (bribed) or blackmailed to do so.

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Angela Markel speaks fluent Russian and Putin speaks fluent German.
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Reply #880 - Feb 11th, 2016 at 8:26am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:22am:
Sweden's anti-immigration party, Sweden Democrats, is now polling up to 28% which is higher than the country's two traditional parties.

Not surprising considering Sweden has turned almost into a war zone, with grenades in the streets, no go zones and wars between different migrant groups.

Merkel caused this!


Sweden is gone.


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Reply #881 - Feb 11th, 2016 at 9:22am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 10:36am:
I see the usual keystone cops are at it again ...

I know, I know .... it's all the muzzies fault  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


it is muzzies that are doing it , so yes.


haven't we already covered that?


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Reply #882 - Feb 11th, 2016 at 9:25am
 
athos wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 8:25am:
Ms Markel is an educated women with very high IQ. After all she has PhD in Quantum Physics and worked as University lecturer and a scientific researcher.
Now the question is how come a so intelligent leader can do such stupid things in politics against own country?.
I guess there are only two possibilities either she is corrupted (bribed) or blackmailed to do so.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Angela_Merkel_and_Vlad...

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Angela Markel speaks fluent Russian and Putin speaks fluent German.


There is a 3rd option - that book smarts are not the same as wisdom.
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Reply #883 - Feb 11th, 2016 at 11:44am
 
... wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 9:25am:
There is a 3rd option - that book smarts are not the same as wisdom.


Well said, Honky.

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Reply #884 - Feb 11th, 2016 at 12:04pm
 
I am increasingly worried about the authoritarian direction of Merkel's govt.
We've had the collusion with Facebook & Twitter to disappear unwelcome comments.
We've had the muzzling of the press as revealed by the ex-ZDF exec.
We've had the dictatorial attitude to other European countries.
Now they are embarking on a lavish pro-migrant propaganda campaign at a time when 80% of Germans want the immigration shut down.

If Germany slides into a Weimar-type state, as well it might, could history repeat?
It often does.

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