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Reply #660 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:04pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 8:47am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 8:16am:
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sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:11am:
Once again, nothing will happen. There aren't enough nutters.


It's already started. Closed borders in Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, and Slovakia. Tighter border controls everywhere else in Europe. Poland has booted out lefties from the public broadcaster. Denmark can now confiscate and sell the possessions of refugees in order to pay for their up keep. France is about to pass laws to strip terrorists who have dual citizenship of their French citizenship.


Yes ... Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia are the proof-of-the-pudding that it can be done if the political leadership has the will to do it.

The time may arrive when those four countries will become a sought-after migrant destination for Europeans and Scandinavians who want to live in a Muslim-free Western society where Islam hasn't been allowed to take root and start growing into a titanic problem for future generations.

Meanwhile ...

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Yeah, it can be done. But I will say that the character of Eastern European people is vastly different from the Western character. There's a 'hardness' lying just below the surface of Eastern European peoples. It should also be remembered that the self-annihilating literature that began this self-loathing crusade is North-Western (and Jewish) in origin. It's not a part of the East's culture.

I think you'll find the 'hardening' you speak of is the result of a poor people who have a lack of education.  Similar to why Russians go crazy in happiness whenever Putin decides to attack someone. Its unfortunate because Eastern Europeans are known for so much literature, art, music, etc. and yet the vast hoarde of people is unfortunately uneducated to a point that it's very easy to fall into the nationalist mentality.


i'm not sure thats right. the education system in russia and the eastern blocks was pretty robust.
probably quite a high standard of education for most of those countries.
it may not have been the looney lefty national curriculum that we have though.
they probably taught children to be patriotic.
maybe we have something to learn from the communist block after all
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Reply #661 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:09pm
 
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maybe we have something to learn from the communist block after all


State propaganda?
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Reply #662 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:32pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
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maybe we have something to learn from the communist block after all


State propaganda?



Wink Wink Wink, you think we dont have that now ??
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Reply #663 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 2:35pm
 
Is she indeed the Woman who lost her Head?

One of Germany’s most celebrated psychoanalysts has said the refusal of Chancellor Angela Merkel to reverse her “completely irrational” migrant policy is evidence of a potential “mental breakdown” that endangers society.
Hans-Joachim Maaz, a German psychiatrist, psychoanalyst and best-selling author, was speaking with Huffington Post Germany when he suggested a “stubborn” Angela Merkel has “lost touch with reality”.

According to Mr. Maaz, the German Chancellor suffers from “narcissism” brought on by people lauding her position as ‘mother of the nation’ and most powerful woman in the world, and calling for her to have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. He says the “artificially inflated self-image” she labours under leads to the “stubborn attitude” on display by her during the ongoing migrant crisis.
Mr. Maaz claimed that Mrs. Merkel has not, in fact, taken any difficult decisions or displayed genuine leadership. In his opinion she reacts to situations rather than leads, something which testifies to her uncertainty and an underlying lack of self-worth.

The result of this, he says, is that she tends to make “emotional” decisions which meet immediate popular approval instead of making difficult but rational moves. By way of example he cites first Mrs. Merkel policy of phasing out nuclear power after the Fukushima nuclear disaster, a decision she took knowing most Germans backed the move.

The second “emotional” decision she took was to open Germany’s borders to Syrian migrants. Although met with worldwide approval as a “great humanitarian gesture” it was actually poorly thought through, as hindsight confirms. Now her refusal to move represents a danger to Germany.

Mr. Maaz confirmed that overachievers such as Mrs. Merkel, often suffer from “self-esteem deficit, inferiority and insecurity”.
That is not a problem when sufferers enjoy success and recognition, but it does lead to hubris and immunity to criticism which means that when things go wrong people can become prone to “loneliness” and “mental breakdown”. He sees no reason why Mrs. Merkel would react any differently, adding “a psychological or psychosomatic collapse is imminent.”
With ever more defiant reactions to criticism seeing the Chancellor “digging her heels in” rather than change course, Mr. Maaz diagnoses a very real risk to Germany, saying that by insisting on sticking with policies which no longer enjoy the support of a majority, she contributes to the breakdown of German society.
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Reply #664 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 2:47pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
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maybe we have something to learn from the communist block after all


State propaganda?



Wink Wink Wink, you think we dont have that now ??



Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #665 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 3:44pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
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maybe we have something to learn from the communist block after all


State propaganda?



Wink Wink Wink, you think we dont have that now ??


Ee-gad, no. We have privatized propaganda. If we had state propaganda, you'd hardly get to see the government photoshopped as communist dictators on the front page of the Tele.
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Reply #666 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:21pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:04pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 8:47am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 8:16am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 8:10am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:53am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:11am:
Once again, nothing will happen. There aren't enough nutters.


It's already started. Closed borders in Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, and Slovakia. Tighter border controls everywhere else in Europe. Poland has booted out lefties from the public broadcaster. Denmark can now confiscate and sell the possessions of refugees in order to pay for their up keep. France is about to pass laws to strip terrorists who have dual citizenship of their French citizenship.


Yes ... Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia are the proof-of-the-pudding that it can be done if the political leadership has the will to do it.

The time may arrive when those four countries will become a sought-after migrant destination for Europeans and Scandinavians who want to live in a Muslim-free Western society where Islam hasn't been allowed to take root and start growing into a titanic problem for future generations.

Meanwhile ...

link



Yeah, it can be done. But I will say that the character of Eastern European people is vastly different from the Western character. There's a 'hardness' lying just below the surface of Eastern European peoples. It should also be remembered that the self-annihilating literature that began this self-loathing crusade is North-Western (and Jewish) in origin. It's not a part of the East's culture.

I think you'll find the 'hardening' you speak of is the result of a poor people who have a lack of education.  Similar to why Russians go crazy in happiness whenever Putin decides to attack someone. Its unfortunate because Eastern Europeans are known for so much literature, art, music, etc. and yet the vast hoarde of people is unfortunately uneducated to a point that it's very easy to fall into the nationalist mentality.


i'm not sure thats right. the education system in russia and the eastern blocks was pretty robust.
probably quite a high standard of education for most of those countries.
it may not have been the looney lefty national curriculum that we have though.
they probably taught children to be patriotic.
maybe we have something to learn from the communist block after all

why would anyone wish for their children to be 'TAUGHT' how to be patriotic?

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Reply #667 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:26pm
 
One needs to teach a horse to.be patriotic. You need to dress them up in frilly hats and get them stomping on the enemy’s flag.

They’re quite happy if you change the flag. They don’t even notice.
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Reply #668 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 10:30pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:26pm:
One needs to teach a horse to.be patriotic. You need to dress them up in frilly hats and get them stomping on the enemy’s flag.

They’re quite happy if you change the flag. They don’t even notice.

The horses fought specifically for that flag.  You can't change it.
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Reply #669 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 10:36pm
 
What exact benefits are there to patriotism?

1) I have to get up every morning to raise a flag on my flag pole.
2) I have to get out of bed every night to lower the flag from my flag pole.
3) I have to actually listen to the anthem being sung
4) I have to create some perplexed unmovable image of what Australia is.  And then without any objections or questioning , I have to denounce a whole people when one raises questions with the image, regardless of whether I agree or not.
5) I have to pledge allegiance daily.

Where are the benefits here, Aqua?
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Reply #670 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 11:21pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 10:36pm:
What exact benefits are there to patriotism?

1) I have to get up every morning to raise a flag on my flag pole.
2) I have to get out of bed every night to lower the flag from my flag pole.
3) I have to actually listen to the anthem being sung
4) I have to create some perplexed unmovable image of what Australia is.  And then without any objections or questioning , I have to denounce a whole people when one raises questions with the image, regardless of whether I agree or not.
5) I have to pledge allegiance daily.

Where are the benefits here, Aqua?

Depends of the type of patriotism you're into I s'pose.
1) My wife has to get up my flagpole every morn'
2)I have tell her to hop off it's time to sleep again.
3)I'll let her play whatever tune she wants.
4)I have to create some perplexed unmovable image of... Ahhhh.. And then without any objections or questioning , I have to do it again.
5)I have to tell her I love her daily or 1) will not happen.

Hmm, the benefits...
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Reply #671 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 11:42pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 10:30pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:26pm:
One needs to teach a horse to.be patriotic. You need to dress them up in frilly hats and get them stomping on the enemy’s flag.

They’re quite happy if you change the flag. They don’t even notice.

The horses fought specifically for that flag.  You can't change it.


Sure you can. They fought under the red ensign in WWII. They sh@t on the rising sun.

Now the fillies don’t know what the enemy’s flag looks like, but that doesn’t stop them dumping on any old thing.

Ask Aquascoot.
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Reply #672 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 11:43pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 10:36pm:
What exact benefits are there to patriotism?

1) I have to get up every morning to raise a flag on my flag pole.
2) I have to get out of bed every night to lower the flag from my flag pole.
3) I have to actually listen to the anthem being sung
4) I have to create some perplexed unmovable image of what Australia is.  And then without any objections or questioning , I have to denounce a whole people when one raises questions with the image, regardless of whether I agree or not.
5) I have to pledge allegiance daily.

Where are the benefits here, Aqua?


FD calls it freedom.
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Reply #673 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 11:48pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 10:36pm:
What exact benefits are there to patriotism?

1) I have to get up every morning to raise a flag on my flag pole.
2) I have to get out of bed every night to lower the flag from my flag pole.
3) I have to actually listen to the anthem being sung
4) I have to create some perplexed unmovable image of what Australia is.  And then without any objections or questioning , I have to denounce a whole people when one raises questions with the image, regardless of whether I agree or not.
5) I have to pledge allegiance daily.

Where are the benefits here, Aqua?


FD calls it freedom.


I'd call that freedom too. It's a choice. Not my first port of horse whispering, but...  Undecided
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Reply #674 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 11:53pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 10:36pm:
What exact benefits are there to patriotism?

1) I have to get up every morning to raise a flag on my flag pole.
2) I have to get out of bed every night to lower the flag from my flag pole.
3) I have to actually listen to the anthem being sung
4) I have to create some perplexed unmovable image of what Australia is.  And then without any objections or questioning , I have to denounce a whole people when one raises questions with the image, regardless of whether I agree or not.
5) I have to pledge allegiance daily.

Where are the benefits here, Aqua?
actually, this sounds like benefits of being a drama queen.
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