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Melanias purse Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100912	Re: Merkel & the refugees Reply #585 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:36am ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:15am: mothra wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:09am: I don't however, think humans are more important. you have a choice, rescue a drowning human or rescue a drowning dog. Which do you choose? A decent white person or a black?
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Reply #586 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:37am

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:36am:

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:15am:

mothra wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:09am:

I don't however, think humans are more important.

you have a choice, rescue a drowning human or rescue a drowning dog. Which do you choose?

A decent white person or a black?

An important distinction.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36379 Gender:	Re: Merkel & the refugees Reply #587 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:55am God damn that question used to piss me off when my brothers laid it on me. Thinking they had an ace. It's a remarkably stupid question. Exact same question too. A horse or a human. Am i related to you Ian? Weren't you suitably chastised when i was 12?
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Reply #588 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 5:48am

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:15am:

No my risible friend. i believe in duty and honour above all else. even if i hated these people i would save them. When duty demands there is no thought process as to who or what they are or any political considerations. This is something you can not understand. You are a sheep, i am a sheep dog.

good analogy for how the alphas on the right feel about the betas on the left

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Reply #589 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 5:52am

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:41am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:37am:

mothra wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:25am:

Awwww. Poor bloody dog.

Tell me about it, his owners are criminals.

humans are more important than animals. Damn, theres that moral compass again.

thats the group think but its not the reality.

if i was watching random strangers getting bombed on the news and i heard a yelp as a car hit my dog, do you think i would sit there watching the news story with tears welling up in my eyes or go attend to my dog on the road.

your social circle , family and friends (and , yes, pets), amybe a 1000 individuals, are more important then 6.999.999.000 of the humans on earth

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Reply #590 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:08am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 7:26pm:

It's my guess this fellow no longer believes that Germany's Pegida movement that wants to keep Muslims out of the country can be dismissed and ignored as just another 'Rightwing' resurgence from the war years.

No doubt just as with many other 'fence-sitters' and Lefties in Germany, this fellow has had an epiphany and a wake-up call as to the true nature of what 14 hundred years of Islam has bred into the character of young Muslim men.

And thank God for YouTube and private journalism, otherwise the public would be kept ignorant and naive through the deceit and censorship of a mainstream media that is totally in cahoots with successive Leftwing governments.

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Reply #591 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:17am

mothra wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:17am:

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:15am:

mothra wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:09am:

I don't however, think humans are more important.

you have a choice, rescue a drowning human or rescue a drowning dog. Which do you choose?

My brother's would throw that at me when i was 12. Think harder.

And what did you tell them?

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Reply #592 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:26am

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:15am:

No my risible friend. i believe in duty and honour above all else. even if i hated these people i would save them. When duty demands there is no thought process as to who or what they are or any political considerations. This is something you can not understand. You are a sheep, i am a sheep dog.

A sheep dog guards the sheep because he thinks the sheep are his... No sense of morality, duty or honour is required of the dog.

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Reply #593 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 8:25am

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:15am:

No my risible friend. i believe in duty and honour above all else. even if i hated these people i would save them. When duty demands there is no thought process as to who or what they are or any political considerations. This is something you can not understand. You are a sheep, i am a sheep dog.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:26am:

A sheep dog guards the sheep because he thinks the sheep are his...

No sense of morality, duty or honour is required of the dog.

'A sheep dog guards the sheep because he thinks the sheep are his...'

NoN,

The sheep dog guards the sheep, because the sheep dog has a desire, to please his human master.

And, even we humans [the judges of what is 'good' and/or 'evil', in our world!], attribute a worthy morality [i.e. the doing of right things] to the sheep dog who faithfully guards the masters sheep.

And so it will be with men also, with those men who in their pilgrimage through this life, rightfully discern [i.e. they discriminate] between good and evil in this life.

Rightfully ?

Rightfully, according to who ?

Rightfully, according to our creator.

Deuteronomy 4:5
Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

Quote:

The sin of condoning sin

To murder is one thing. To justify murder and say murder is OK
   is something else; it is a sin of a higher magnitude.

To engage in adultery is one thing; to say adultery is OK (not
   wrong) is something else --- an even greater sin. Why?
   Because it represents moral perversion.

The same thing holds with homosexuality. To do it is one
   thing; to condone it, deny that it is sin is a sin of
   another order of magnitude.

To sin is one thing; but to say sin is not sin is diabolic.

June 1997

http://www.solitaryroad.com/a749.html

The Forces of Darkness grow stronger and stronger
http://www.solitaryroad.com/a762.html

How do I see the world?
http://www.solitaryroad.com/a764.html

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Psalms 7:11
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

Psalms 11:4
The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Proverbs 15:9
The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.

Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

Proverbs 21:15
It is joy to the just to do judgment: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.

Proverbs 24:24
He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:
25 But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.

Proverbs 28:4
They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
5 Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

Proverbs 29:27
An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.

Malachi 3:13
Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?
14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

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2 Timothy 2:19
....The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

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Re: Merkel & the refugees
Reply #594 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:06am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:26am:

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:15am:

No my risible friend. i believe in duty and honour above all else. even if i hated these people i would save them. When duty demands there is no thought process as to who or what they are or any political considerations. This is something you can not understand. You are a sheep, i am a sheep dog.

A sheep dog guards the sheep because he thinks the sheep are his... No sense of morality, duty or honour is required of the dog.

Its an analogy, not a direct comparison.

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Reply #595 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:13am

Yadda wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 8:25am:

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:15am:

No my risible friend. i believe in duty and honour above all else. even if i hated these people i would save them. When duty demands there is no thought process as to who or what they are or any political considerations. This is something you can not understand. You are a sheep, i am a sheep dog.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:26am:

A sheep dog guards the sheep because he thinks the sheep are his...

No sense of morality, duty or honour is required of the dog.

'A sheep dog guards the sheep because he thinks the sheep are his...'

NoN,

The sheep dog guards the sheep, because the sheep dog has a desire, to please his human master.

You presume a lot when you presume that the canine thinks itself necessarily subservient to the human.

Robert Pirsig pots it well - "When a shepherd goes to kill a wolf, and takes his dog to see the sport, he should take care to avoid mistakes. The dog has certain relationships to the wolf the shepherd may have forgotten."

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Reply #596 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:13am

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:06am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:26am:

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:15am:

No my risible friend. i believe in duty and honour above all else. even if i hated these people i would save them. When duty demands there is no thought process as to who or what they are or any political considerations. This is something you can not understand. You are a sheep, i am a sheep dog.

A sheep dog guards the sheep because he thinks the sheep are his... No sense of morality, duty or honour is required of the dog.

Its an analogy, not a direct comparison.

Yairs...

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Reply #597 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:18am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 8:25am:

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 12:15am:

No my risible friend. i believe in duty and honour above all else. even if i hated these people i would save them. When duty demands there is no thought process as to who or what they are or any political considerations. This is something you can not understand. You are a sheep, i am a sheep dog.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:26am:

A sheep dog guards the sheep because he thinks the sheep are his...

No sense of morality, duty or honour is required of the dog.

'A sheep dog guards the sheep because he thinks the sheep are his...'

NoN,

The sheep dog guards the sheep, because the sheep dog has a desire, to please his human master.

You presume a lot when you presume that the canine thinks itself necessarily subservient to the human.

Robert Pirsig pots it well - "When a shepherd goes to kill a wolf, and takes his dog to see the sport, he should take care to avoid mistakes. The dog has certain relationships to the wolf the shepherd may have forgotten."

Pirsig may very well be a good writer but he apparently knows little about dogs, they are pack animals. They consider Humans are part of their pack.

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Reply #598 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:21am

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

Pirsig may very well be a good writer but he apparently knows little about dogs, they are pack animals. They consider Humans are part of their pack.

Unless the human does not truly have the dog's respect. So-called 'dog whisperers' wouldn't exist if it was necessarily true that dogs always respect humans.

They're also very good at biding their time... Like wolves.

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