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Reply #360 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 12:08pm:

... wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 12:05pm:

The internet works the same way in german, and in germany.

Just a hint for next time, Honks: make sure the article exists before you suggest that people read it.

http://www.express.de/koeln/koelner-hbf-sexuelle-uebergriffe--ausgangspunkt-war-...

http://www.bild.de/news/inland/sex-uebergriffe-silvesternacht/wird-verboten-die-...

http://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg/polizei/einsatzpapier-wirft-fragen-auf-44077...

http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/europa/markus-maehler/der-sex-mob-terro...

http://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg/sex-uebergriffe-silvesternacht/justiz-skanda...

http://www.bild.de/news/inland/sex-uebergriffe-silvesternacht/sex-attacken-in-eu...

and so and so forth

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/12/swedish-police-confess-they-kept-quit...

http://newobserveronline.com/media-conspiracy-over-cologne-mass-sex-attack/

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Re: Merkel & the refugees
Reply #361 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:22pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:09pm:

You're confusing issues.

No, the problem is that you want to pin everything on one cause.

The problem with the past is...
The problem with developing countries is...

There are enough problems in the past to fill a million libraries, and there are an equal number of them today, and will be tomorrow.

Not only that, you want everything to be condensed into 3 word slogans.

masculinity to be defined as breadwinner in the household and controller of women

It's not "confusing issues" when you incidentally mention a related issue. Nothing exists in a vacuum.

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Reply #362 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:24pm

... wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:22pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:09pm:

You're confusing issues.

No, the problem is that you want to pin everything on one cause.

The problem with the past is...
The problem with developing countries is...

There are enough problems in the past to fill a million libraries, and there are an equal number of them today, and will be tomorrow.

Not only that, you want everything to be condensed into 3 word slogans.

masculinity to be defined as breadwinner in the household and controller of women

It's not "confusing issues" when you incidentally mention a related issue. Nothing exists in a vacuum.

Not at all, Wes. I'm simply pointing out that the article you heralded as some great opinion was actually a pile of horsesh1t that was probably written with 5 minutes to the deadline. And it was. European masculinity is stronger than ever.

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Reply #363 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:31pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:24pm:

I'm simply pointing out that the article you heralded as some great opinion was actually a pile of horsesh1t that was probably written with 5 minutes to the deadline.

And there you go again. You seem to think that by prefacing your declaration that its a pile of horseshit, with the word "actually" that it carries some authority.

My initial assessment was right:

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What a weak retort.

I would have just ignored it if that was all I could come up with.

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Reply #364 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:32pm

... wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:31pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:24pm:

I'm simply pointing out that the article you heralded as some great opinion was actually a pile of horsesh1t that was probably written with 5 minutes to the deadline.

And there you go again. You seem to think that by prefacing your declaration that its a pile of horseshit, with the word "actually" that it carries some authority.

My initial assessment was right:

Quote:

What a weak retort.

I would have just ignored it if that was all I could come up with.

You can go through my previous arguments for this being horsesh1t if you like, and provide some better rebuttal points then you did?

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Reply #366 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:37pm

... wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:35pm:

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European masculinity is stronger than ever.

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This is not your belief, but just a manifestation of your need to not only be opposed to something - but to be completely opposed to everything associated with it. That is what makes a true believer.

I don't know how you could've come up with this. I just spent a good 2 hours explaining to you my position and why I believe masculinity is stronger than ever in Europe. You then came up with some wishwash that didn't make much sense about how it's fair for a woman to stay at home while you go to work, and now you're pretending I'm just opposed for opposition sake? What? Come on wes. You're meant to be the smart conservative on this forum. Show it please.

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Reply #367 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:17pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:37pm:

why I believe masculinity is stronger than ever in Europe.

No, you spent maybe 10 minutes firing off the quickest and shallowest thoughts that came to mind on anything that had already been brought up. The time spent specifically addressing "why masculinity is stronger than ever in europe" would've been about one minute.

You would never assert that in it's own right, only as opposition to an existing assertion. You are a negator, not a creator, which is strongly correlated with identification with "teh left".

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Reply #368 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:31pm

... wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:17pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:37pm:

why I believe masculinity is stronger than ever in Europe.

No, you spent maybe 10 minutes firing off the quickest and shallowest thoughts that came to mind on anything that had already been brought up. The time spent specifically addressing "why masculinity is stronger than ever in europe" would've been about one minute.

You would never assert that in it's own right, only as opposition to an existing assertion. You are a negator, not a creator, which is strongly correlated with identification with "teh left".

well if my thoughts were shallow it's only because a debate about the lack of masculinity in Europe is so absurd that it only deserves shallow thinking, and that's enough to show the argument in the opinion piece was utter nonsense. Especially given you've moved from arguing the points to just trying to claim I've made no points worthy for you to argue.

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Reply #369 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:40pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:31pm:

well if my thoughts were shallow it's only because a debate about the lack of masculinity in Europe is so absurd that it only deserves shallow thinking

No, it's not an absurd topic, but it probably is absurd to expect more than shallow thinking here. Point taken.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:31pm:

and that's enough to show the argument in the opinion piece was utter nonsense.

No, it's not. Why do you need to claim some mythical victory with every second sentence?

I found it interesting, others found it interesting, you didn't, and that's that. You don't need to make a song and dance about how everyone else is wrong to be interested, because that's all it is - a show. We get it, you're opposed to "teh right".

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Reply #370 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:48pm

... wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:40pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:31pm:

well if my thoughts were shallow it's only because a debate about the lack of masculinity in Europe is so absurd that it only deserves shallow thinking

No, it's not an absurd topic, but it probably is absurd to expect more than shallow thinking here. Point taken.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:31pm:

and that's enough to show the argument in the opinion piece was utter nonsense.

No, it's not. Why do you need to claim some mythical victory with every second sentence?

I found it interesting, others found it interesting, you didn't, and that's that. You don't need to make a song and dance about how everyone else is wrong to be interested, because that's all it is - a show. We get it, you're opposed to "teh right".

What exactly did you find interesting?

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Merkel & the refugees Reply #372 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:52pm ... wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:51pm: You want a 3 word slogan? Up to you what you give me. If you can muster something more than 3 words then great. If not, then it's sufficient I guess.
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Melanias purse Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101053	Re: Merkel & the refugees Reply #373 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:56pm ... wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:51pm: You want a 3 word slogan? Oh, indeed.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Merkel & the refugees Reply #374 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:56pm More of a 4 word man myself. "She thinks so too?" "We are not alone." "There is still hope." "It's not too late"
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