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Re: Why was Abbott so unpopular
Reply #15 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:10am
 
Kat wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:00am:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:47am:
He's politically incorrect

Political Correctness police are the loud minority

The majority of voters are too lazy to do their own research so they listen to sound bites from the loud minority

Then they form their views based on this


Funny how when a conservative says 'End political correctness', what he
REALLY means is 'End controls on racism, bigotry and hate-speech'.


No, what it means is when someone says to end PC, they mean an end to schools that won't do Easter or Christmas for fear of offending a handful of students who are Muslim, for example. Or those who insist on asking people to say "happy holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" for the same reason.
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Re: Why was Abbott so unpopular
Reply #16 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:11am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:00am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:48am:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:47am:
He's politically incorrect incompetent.


Fixed it for ya!


He destroyed Rudd and Gillard and then when Rudd got back up he knocked him down again. All while in Opposition. As PM, he managed to negotiate with the Greens and Independents on a number of pieces of legislation to negate Labor's blocking tactics. Doesn't seem like the work of a person who is politically incompetent. He made some bad decisions and was handed a shambles of a budget by Labor, who knew he would have to make tough, unpopular decisions in order to keep his promises of returning the budget to surplus. That is the Labor way, after all - make a mess and then make it nigh on impossible for the next guy to clean it up. The only problem is that now Turnbull is in office and while he is more left-leaning than any Liberal PM in living memory, he isn't as left-leaning as someone like Shorten or Plibersek and that's why he's going to pulverise Shorten at the next Federal election.


So Shorten destroyed Abbott, he must be well positioned.


Abbott destroyed Abbott. Shorten's satisfaction rating was almost as low as Abbott's. The only reason more people voted for him in opinion polls is because they didn't like Shorten, but they disliked Abbott more. Shorten is an empty suit - he's nothing.
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Reply #17 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:13am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:01am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:49am:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:47am:
He's politically incorrect

Political Correctness police are the loud minority

The majority of voters are too lazy to do their own research so they listen to sound bites from the loud minority

Then they form their views based on this


Yep. He spoke his mind and the Canberra press gallery absolute hate it when politicians do that. Look what happened to Pauline Hanson just because she voiced her personal views - views that a great many Australians agreed with.


Agreed

You don't have to agree with Pauline's view but you must respect her right to have a view

This is why Trump is so popular right now in the US

The Press will always adopt a high moral ground test whenever they write their article. How many of these writers actual live by the same standards?


Exactly. His claim that he would halt all Muslim immigration may be popular with the lunatic fringe and a handful of other groups but it's not something he'd politically ever be able to implement. The consequences for the US would make such a move intolerable.
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Re: Why was Abbott so unpopular
Reply #18 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:14am
 
Kat wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:01am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:49am:
He spoke his mind.


The problem being, he was out of his mind.



As were those who voted LNP.

Still are, for that matter.


Amen to that, brother!

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Reply #19 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:17am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:14am:
Kat wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:01am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:49am:
He spoke his mind.


The problem being, he was out of his mind.



As were those who voted LNP.

Still are, for that matter.


Amen to that, brother!



Sadly, the truth is that those who believe others are crazy are far more likely to be crazy themselves.
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Reply #20 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:19am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:17am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:14am:
Kat wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:01am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:49am:
He spoke his mind.


The problem being, he was out of his mind.



As were those who voted LNP.

Still are, for that matter.


Amen to that, brother!



Sadly, the truth is that those who believe others are crazy are far more likely to be crazy themselves.


I'm sure you believe that.

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Re: Why was Abbott so unpopular
Reply #21 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:23am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:17am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:14am:
Kat wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:01am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:49am:
He spoke his mind.


The problem being, he was out of his mind.



As were those who voted LNP.

Still are, for that matter.


Amen to that, brother!



Sadly, the truth is that those who believe others are crazy are far more likely to be crazy themselves.


Psychiatrists are all crazy ?
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Reply #22 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:26am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:23am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:17am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:14am:
Kat wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:01am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:49am:
He spoke his mind.


The problem being, he was out of his mind.



As were those who voted LNP.

Still are, for that matter.


Amen to that, brother!



Sadly, the truth is that those who believe others are crazy are far more likely to be crazy themselves.


Psychiatrists are all crazy ?


And, if Armpit believes them to be crazy doesn't that then make him crazy?

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Reply #23 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:27am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:47am:
He's politically incorrect

Political Correctness police are the loud minority

The majority of voters are too lazy to do their own research so they listen to sound bites from the loud minority

Then they form their views based on this


He's politically incorrect

His period as opposition leader and PM were the most politically correct of his life - his minders made sure of that.

Political correctness in my opinion had nothing to do with his popularity, people would have been happy to accept that had he been in charge of a competent government.
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Reply #24 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:26am:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:23am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:17am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:14am:
Kat wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:01am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 10:49am:
He spoke his mind.


The problem being, he was out of his mind.



As were those who voted LNP.

Still are, for that matter.


Amen to that, brother!



Sadly, the truth is that those who believe others are crazy are far more likely to be crazy themselves.


Psychiatrists are all crazy ?


And, if Armpit believes them to be crazy doesn't that then make him crazy?



It does make it difficult for anyone to be crazy ?
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Reply #25 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 11:59am
 
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Leftists are politically indoctrinated to hate.  The politics of envy, mob intimidation, cultural marxism, social media, political correctness. bullying etc are their weapons of choice.

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Leftists, and their comrades in the union movement, target individuals whom they fear may succeed in eroding their power.  Abbott was targeted from day 1 with their hate propaganda and their leftist comrades lap it up.  Soon all are just "following the crowd at chow time" echoing the hate.  Sad   

This political hate is pretty palpable here too  Shocked

Godwin's law aside, its also the very tactic that was used by the National Socialists to great effect, which is something Leftists will emphatically deny (watch this space...... Cheesy)
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Reply #26 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 12:03pm
 
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Leftists are politically indoctrinated to hate.  The politics of envy, mob intimidation, cultural marxism, social media, political correctness. bullying etc are their weapons of choice.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/thugism.jpg

Leftists, and their comrades in the union movement, target individuals whom they fear may succeed in eroding their power.  Abbott was targeted from day 1 with their hate propaganda and their leftist comrades lap it up.  Soon all are just "following the crowd at chow time" echoing the hate.  Sad   

This political hate is pretty palpable here too  Shocked

Godwin's law aside, its also the very tactic that was used by the National Socialists to great effect, which is something Leftists will emphatically deny (watch this space...... Cheesy)



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However, Abbott was unpopular with the Liberal Party.

They're the ones who removed him.

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Reply #27 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 12:04pm
 
I really don't get where this "Abbott the victim" complex comes from, Abbott was one of the most incompetent leaders in Australian history up there with Joh and Newman and the media largely never really held him to account, it really became a "Oh we are reporting on this because we have too, but we don't really care" thing and Abbott would honestly have a politically career killing moment for anyone else on almost on a weekly basis.

Meanwhile Gillard was constantly hounded by the media over the smallest thing, sections of the media and Parliament were outright calling for Gillards assassination, what did Gillard do? Didn't even lie about a Carbon Tax that never actually existed and was quoted out of context. Abbott broke almost every promise he made before even his first budget.

Abbott got off light for what a piece of trash he was, I mean, look at Shorten, he has a lower approval rating than Abbott and he hasn't even done anything except exist and get media hearsay thrown at him.
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Reply #28 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 12:45pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
Abbott got off light for what a piece of trash he was.


Ain't that the truth!

For one of the most incompetent politicians this country has ever seen, the media went relatively easy on him.

The history books won't be so kind, though.

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Reply #29 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 12:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
Abbott got off light for what a piece of trash he was.


Ain't that the truth!

For one of the most incompetent politicians this country has ever seen, the media went relatively easy on him.

The history books won't be so kind, though.


Incompetent?? The last Labor Government was incompetent. What a mess those retards created.
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