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random Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2637 Gender:	Re: Earth's climate sensitivity to CO2 underestimated Reply #60 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:23pm My proof is the absence of text from the Paris COP 21 meeting that said climate change is not happening. Seen any?
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Reply #61 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:39pm

random wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 6:22am:

You are supporting the position that there is a debate on this, there isn't. There is no stalemate. The perception that there is exist only in forums like this now. That's because Big energy is still spending money on misinformation.

The planets heads of government just met in Paris recently and they don't see any stalemate. Obama has described climate change as a threat to US National Security.

Any perception that there is a question over what is happening is an indication of the effort being placed into infiltrating social media by the Big energy lobby.

Same graphs that Ajax posted appear in every forum of any size across the planet. No coincidence, the denial machine is strong.

random wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

But my point remains valid. I didn't say they were acting, I said they were not questioning what is happening.

Nice try.

From what you wrote they weren't even questioning the price of drinks.

'The planets heads of government just met in Paris recently and they don't see any stalemate.'

Which of course is why they decided to do absolutely nothing. Non-binding agreements, no list of industrialized and non-industrialized countries. The only agreement worth the paper it is written on is to have a meeting in Morocco in 2018.

But according to Obama this is the most important event of our time, and all they decided to do was kick the can down the road.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Earth's climate sensitivity to CO2 underestimated Reply #62 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:48pm random wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:23pm: My proof is the absence of text from the Paris COP 21 meeting that said climate change is not happening. Seen any? serious??????? thats the best you can do??????? thats as good a surrender as I have ever heard!! wow.
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random Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2637 Gender:	Re: Earth's climate sensitivity to CO2 underestimated Reply #63 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 6:14pm So the COP 21 meeting in Paris, seen any text that said climate change is not happening. So you got nothing?
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Reply #64 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 6:28pm

random wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 6:14pm:

So the COP 21 meeting in Paris, seen any text that said climate change is not happening.

So you got nothing?

So you still can't grasp the fact that this supposed worst thing happening, couldn't generate an agreement.

On to Morocco

or should that be Road to Morocco? Almost as funny.

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random Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2637 Gender:	Re: Earth's climate sensitivity to CO2 underestimated Reply #65 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 6:51pm So the COP 21 meeting in Paris, seen any text that said climate change is not happening. So you got nothing? Still?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19964 Gender:	Re: Earth's climate sensitivity to CO2 underestimated Reply #66 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 8:24pm random wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 6:51pm: So the COP 21 meeting in Paris, seen any text that said climate change is not happening. So you got nothing? Still? Climate is always changing. You expect disagreement on that?
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Reply #67 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 8:56pm

I expected you to substantiate your claims, but I knew that was futile. There is nothing credible for you to reference.

No one in the Big End of town is doubting what human produced CO2 is doing to the climate, only shills and the easily led here are doing that.

No one, not even the oil companies are arguing (publicly). That leaves the Looney Tunes bunch in places like this.

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mitasol Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 173 Townsville Gender:	Re: Earth's climate sensitivity to CO2 underestimated Reply #68 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:02pm and yet http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-ove...
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Reply #69 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:04pm

random wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

I expected you to substantiate your claims, but I knew that was futile.

What claim did I make?I have been back through the thread and can't see anything.

random wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

No one in the Big End of town is doubting what human produced CO2 is doing to the climate, only shills and the easily led here are doing that.

Funny. You're the one screaming climate change, climate change.

And as I said climate changes all the time.

So seeing as, according to you, we have anthropogenic climate change; what is the optimum temperature of the earth? Should it be uniform?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19964 Gender:	Re: Earth's climate sensitivity to CO2 underestimated Reply #70 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:06pm mitasol wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:02pm: and yet http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-ove... You do know the climate hysterics don't like to be reminded of Climategate, don't you.
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Reply #71 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:17pm

mitasol wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:02pm:

and yet http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-ove...

It's a 2010 report. JFC. This is 2016.

I have previously tried to make sense of it but it is just a paragraph each from everyone on the payroll.

Incomprehensible. That your best shot?

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mitasol Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 173 Townsville Gender:	Re: Earth's climate sensitivity to CO2 underestimated Reply #72 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:37pm
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Reply #73 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:37pm

random wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

mitasol wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:02pm:

and yet http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-ove...

It's a 2010 report. JFC. This is 2016.

I have previously tried to make sense of it but it is just a paragraph each from everyone on the payroll.

Incomprehensible. That your best shot?

See? They completely ignore Climategate.

And obviously because 2016 comes after 2010 there is an inherent statute of limitations. It doesn't matter if it's old news, only the new news works. It comes from people having a 5 minute attention span.

He sometimes also brings up 97% consensus, although recently that was updated to 98%. And then runs away and hides.

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mitasol Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 173 Townsville Gender:	Re: Earth's climate sensitivity to CO2 underestimated Reply #74 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:42pm Have you ever seen the peer review system at work? Talk about incestuous, geared towards a pre-determined outcome.
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