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Re: El Nino and Australian Weather
Reply #30 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 4:32pm

lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 10:49am:

No Lee you are wrong. It has EVERYTHING to do with climate.

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Only insofar as any weather event impacts climate. It, of itself, is not climate, but climate related; like drought, floods etc.

You can't backpedal now lee - everything is out in the open

You owe The_Barnacle a written public apology

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Re: El Nino and Australian Weather
Reply #31 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 5:53pm

lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 10:49am:

No Lee you are wrong. It has EVERYTHING to do with climate.

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Only insofar as any weather event impacts climate. It, of itself, is not climate, but climate related; like drought, floods etc.

i wanna play video games and have a massive w************************************** : go away mum Roll Eyes

Dad told me i don't have to work in this life-time etc blah blah yadda yadda yadda Grin

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #32 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 5:53pm I AM A BLUE-BLOOD- FEEL MY ACORN
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #33 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 5:56pm <SPECIAL HOP!!> LET'S ALL VOTE FOR COPPER INTERNET AND STUFF bugger********** australia and the people who died for it: we want copper internet to make the stockmarket tick better or something like strange daddy said
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John_Taverner Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2217 Gender:	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #35 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 10:00pm Malcolm, you seriously need to get help.
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Re: El Nino and Australian Weather
Reply #36 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 10:56am

John_Taverner wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

Malcolm, you seriously need to get help.

bro: I am telling lee in a circuitous way that calling el nino weather makes as much sense as me calling upwelling weather but i suspect he knows this and is just wasting internet address space cos it earns him brownie points Cheesy

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21592 Gender:	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #37 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:03am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 10:56am: I am telling lee in a circuitous way that calling el nino weather makes as much sense as me calling upwelling weathe Got a climate scientist who claims El Nino is not weather?
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #38 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:11am lee wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:03am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 10:56am: I am telling lee in a circuitous way that calling el nino weather makes as much sense as me calling upwelling weathe Got a climate scientist who claims El Nino is not weather? You don't even know what el nino is
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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #39 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:47am lee wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:03am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 10:56am: I am telling lee in a circuitous way that calling el nino weather makes as much sense as me calling upwelling weathe Got a climate scientist who claims El Nino is not weather? ...Is a bushfire is a weather event?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21592 Gender:	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #40 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:57am Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:47am: .. Is it an El Nino; the subject of discussion?
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Re: El Nino and Australian Weather
Reply #41 - Jan 30^th, 2016 at 10:06am

lee wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

So 238.6 mm up to the first week of January. Average for Dec-Feb 298mm. So a way to go before it hits average. I doubt that would qualify it as a below average summer, with 7 weeks to go.

You see this illustrates your lack of understanding of basic principles quite well. First you choose weather data for Sydney - a single point. You'd get a better picture by taking the figures for the Eastern seaboard, or at least more than just a single location. There can be a great deal of variation between locations, and some almost point sources like Sydney may very well buck the trend. Just because Sydney has more population doesn't make it more representative Grin

Secondly you fail to understand the statistical nature of the SOI effects. An El Niño event may be associated with a drier than average period, but not necessarily. It's a statistical relationship. Google how the SOI is calculated. I'm not going to explain it to you.

It's similar to saying that your grandfather smoked 3 packets of smokes a day but died at 93 from natural causes. Statistics will be able to predict how many cases like your hypothetical grandfather should exist.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21592 Gender:	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #42 - Jan 30^th, 2016 at 3:54pm I as merely illustrating a point. So you want me to include rainfall figures for the rest of NSW and Queensland? Why don't you do it to prove me wrong?
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John_Taverner Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2217 Gender:	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #43 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 1:41pm You still don't get it. The second point. Over much of Australia, but particularly eastern Australia, El Niño events are associated with an increased probability of drier conditions.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21592 Gender:	Re: El Nino and Australian Weather Reply #44 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 3:13pm John_Taverner wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 1:41pm: You still don't get it. The second point. Over much of Australia, but particularly eastern Australia, El Niño events are associated with an increased probability of drier conditions. Yep, not increased probability of wet weather.
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