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Reply #270 - Jan 30^th, 2016 at 10:28pm

Its time wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

I read a similar story in the great war for civilisation

about an Jewish attack helicopter firing a hellfire missile in to an ambulance

,

made me so dam angry.

Leftwinger,

You are making an accusation, against one side, ....but leaving out so much information about those incidents in Lebanon.

Why are you doing that ?

Leftwinger,

If you, personally, were using an ambulance to covertly transport armaments in a conflict zone, [and if i had that option] i would, personally, rain down hellfire missiles in to YOUR ambulance.

'Hasta la vista, baby!'

Leftwinger,

Moslems themselves, made those 'ambulances' legitimate targets,

......if those ambulances were being used by moslem combatants to try to covertly transport armaments.

And those moslems KNEW that.

Or are you going to argue that such tactics, that were being used by the moslem combatants in Lebanon, were wholly legitimate and proper ?

Google;

hezbollah used ambulance, armaments, lebanon

Google;

hezbollah used ambulances to transfer armaments, lebanon

Quote:

.......Israel said that it tried to avoid civilians, and had distributed leaflets calling on civilian residents to evacuate,[6] but that Hezbollah stored weapons in and fired from civilian areas and transferred weapons using ambulances, making those areas legitimate targets,[7] and used civilians as human shields.[8][9][10][11][12]

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Israeli officials accused Hezbollah of intentionally using the civilian population as human shields, and several reports have said that Hezbollah fired rockets from residential areas to draw Israeli fire on those areas, which maximised civilian casualties.[13][14] The IDF released pictures and videos it said demonstrated Hezbollah's use of mosques and homes for rocket storage and launching.[15] The IDF claimed that Hezbollah had set up roadblocks to prevent residents from leaving the warzone,[11] while Amnesty International reported that "around 100,000 civilians were trapped in southern Lebanon, afraid to flee following Israeli threats to target all moving vehicles," and after statements by Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon that "all those now in south Lebanon are terrorists who are related in some way to Hezbollah."[16]

In U.S documents leaked online, it was alleged that Hezbollah used ambulances to transfer weapons during the war.[12]

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The Sunday Herald Sun printed pictures that were smuggled out of Lebanon. One showing militants in a Lebanese town riding a truck equipped with an anti-aircraft gun, another showing a militant carrying an AK-47 rifle.[32] The photographer, a Melbourne man who refused to give his name, stated that he was less than 400 meters from the block when it was obliterated. He said that "Hezbollah came in to launch their rockets, then within minutes the area was blasted by Israeli jets ... Until the Hezbollah fighters arrived, it had not been touched by the Israelis. Then it was totally devastated. It was carnage. Two innocent people died in that incident, but it was so lucky it was not more." [32] The New Yorker reported how a Sidon mosque was used as a Hezbollah weapons cache before it was bombed by Israel.[33]

On 5 December 2006, the IDF declassified photographic and video recorded evidence of Hezbollah's human shield tactics.[31] Ynetnews reported:

"The IDF [had] found that Hizbullah is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. Roadblocks have been set up outside some of the villages to prevent residents from leaving, while in other villages Hizbullah is preventing UN representatives from entering, who are trying to help residents leave."[34]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_war_crimes_in_the_2006_Lebanon_War

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Re: The Hasbara trolls are busy on Ozpolitic
Reply #271 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 12:07am

Yadda wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

I read a similar story in the great war for civilisation

about an Jewish attack helicopter firing a hellfire missile in to an ambulance

,

made me so dam angry.

Leftwinger,

You are making an accusation, against one side, ....but leaving out so much information about those incidents in Lebanon.

Why are you doing that ?

Leftwinger,

If you, personally, were using an ambulance to covertly transport armaments in a conflict zone, [and if i had that option] i would, personally, rain down hellfire missiles in to YOUR ambulance.

'Hasta la vista, baby!'

Leftwinger,

Moslems themselves, made those 'ambulances' legitimate targets,

......if those ambulances were being used by moslem combatants to try to covertly transport armaments.

And those moslems KNEW that.

Or are you going to argue that such tactics, that were being used by the moslem combatants in Lebanon, were wholly legitimate and proper ?

Google;

hezbollah used ambulance, armaments, lebanon

Google;

hezbollah used ambulances to transfer armaments, lebanon

Quote:

.......Israel said that it tried to avoid civilians, and had distributed leaflets calling on civilian residents to evacuate,[6] but that Hezbollah stored weapons in and fired from civilian areas and transferred weapons using ambulances, making those areas legitimate targets,[7] and used civilians as human shields.[8][9][10][11][12]

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Israeli officials accused Hezbollah of intentionally using the civilian population as human shields, and several reports have said that Hezbollah fired rockets from residential areas to draw Israeli fire on those areas, which maximised civilian casualties.[13][14] The IDF released pictures and videos it said demonstrated Hezbollah's use of mosques and homes for rocket storage and launching.[15] The IDF claimed that Hezbollah had set up roadblocks to prevent residents from leaving the warzone,[11] while Amnesty International reported that "around 100,000 civilians were trapped in southern Lebanon, afraid to flee following Israeli threats to target all moving vehicles," and after statements by Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon that "all those now in south Lebanon are terrorists who are related in some way to Hezbollah."[16]

In U.S documents leaked online, it was alleged that Hezbollah used ambulances to transfer weapons during the war.[12]

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The Sunday Herald Sun printed pictures that were smuggled out of Lebanon. One showing militants in a Lebanese town riding a truck equipped with an anti-aircraft gun, another showing a militant carrying an AK-47 rifle.[32] The photographer, a Melbourne man who refused to give his name, stated that he was less than 400 meters from the block when it was obliterated. He said that "Hezbollah came in to launch their rockets, then within minutes the area was blasted by Israeli jets ... Until the Hezbollah fighters arrived, it had not been touched by the Israelis. Then it was totally devastated. It was carnage. Two innocent people died in that incident, but it was so lucky it was not more." [32] The New Yorker reported how a Sidon mosque was used as a Hezbollah weapons cache before it was bombed by Israel.[33]

On 5 December 2006, the IDF declassified photographic and video recorded evidence of Hezbollah's human shield tactics.[31] Ynetnews reported:

"The IDF [had] found that Hizbullah is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. Roadblocks have been set up outside some of the villages to prevent residents from leaving, while in other villages Hizbullah is preventing UN representatives from entering, who are trying to help residents leave."[34]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_war_crimes_in_the_2006_Lebanon_War

One only need look at extremism exposed for a demonstration of your version of a balanced perspective .

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Reply #272 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:07am

Yadda pads his posts to move the pages along, away from content he does not agree with.

The formatting of Yadda's posts are similar>identical to posts I have seen in other sites where similar right wing posters use software to manage multiple identities and the formatting is set for each. Some applications manage up to ten accounts simultaneously. Interesting.

Oh yeah, to justify double-taps and shooting ambulances and schools, one simply has to make a claim that they are being used to store or transfer arms? Wow.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: The Hasbara trolls are busy on Ozpolitic Reply #273 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:11am There are any number of instances where ambulance coloured vehicles have been used by terrorist organization Hamas for cover of arms and also to be used to attempt to kidnap IDF personnel. Sadly terrorists do not respect normal convention.
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Reply #274 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:14am

Worth remembering here that we have an enemy that fires rockets into Israel from apartment blocks in Gaza (knowing full well the IDF will track the launch coordinates and respond with F-16s), they use UN funded schools full of children to hide munitions, they hide behind women and children, they bomb women and children, and they allow and even push their young teens to the border to throw petrol bombs at Border Police.

Quite frankly, Hamas are utter scum who deserve wiping off this planet.

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Reply #275 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:48am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:14am:

Worth remembering here that we have an enemy that fires rockets into Israel from apartment blocks in Gaza (knowing full well the IDF will track the launch coordinates and respond with F-16s), they use UN funded schools full of children to hide munitions, they hide behind women and children, they bomb women and children, and they allow and even push their young teens to the border to throw petrol bombs at Border Police.

Quite frankly, Hamas are utter scum who deserve wiping off this planet.

The real Hicks coming out now.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: The Hasbara trolls are busy on Ozpolitic Reply #276 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:15am No. ive always held that view. If you see a terror group that kills women, martyrs those who slit the throats of young kids as anything other than scum then you need to take a look at your moral values.
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Re: The Hasbara trolls are busy on Ozpolitic
Reply #277 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:43am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:15am:

No. ive always held that view.
If you see a terror group that kills women, martyrs those who slit the throats of young kids as anything other than scum then you need to take a look at your moral values.

You see this and rightly condemn it but fail to recognise the same behaviour on the other side.

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Reply #278 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 1:59pm

Its time wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 12:07am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

I read a similar story in the great war for civilisation

about an Jewish attack helicopter firing a hellfire missile in to an ambulance

,

made me so dam angry.

Leftwinger,

You are making an accusation, against one side, ....but leaving out so much information about those incidents in Lebanon.

Why are you doing that ?

Leftwinger,

If you, personally, were using an ambulance to covertly transport armaments in a conflict zone, [and if i had that option] i would, personally, rain down hellfire missiles in to YOUR ambulance.

'Hasta la vista, baby!'

Leftwinger,

Moslems themselves, made those 'ambulances' legitimate targets,

......if those ambulances were being used by moslem combatants to try to covertly transport armaments.

And those moslems KNEW that.

Or are you going to argue that such tactics, that were being used by the moslem combatants in Lebanon, were wholly legitimate and proper ?

Google;

hezbollah used ambulance, armaments, lebanon

Google;

hezbollah used ambulances to transfer armaments, lebanon

Quote:

.......Israel said that it tried to avoid civilians, and had distributed leaflets calling on civilian residents to evacuate,[6] but that Hezbollah stored weapons in and fired from civilian areas and transferred weapons using ambulances, making those areas legitimate targets,[7] and used civilians as human shields.[8][9][10][11][12]

....
....
Israeli officials accused Hezbollah of intentionally using the civilian population as human shields, and several reports have said that Hezbollah fired rockets from residential areas to draw Israeli fire on those areas, which maximised civilian casualties.[13][14] The IDF released pictures and videos it said demonstrated Hezbollah's use of mosques and homes for rocket storage and launching.[15] The IDF claimed that Hezbollah had set up roadblocks to prevent residents from leaving the warzone,[11] while Amnesty International reported that "around 100,000 civilians were trapped in southern Lebanon, afraid to flee following Israeli threats to target all moving vehicles," and after statements by Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon that "all those now in south Lebanon are terrorists who are related in some way to Hezbollah."[16]

In U.S documents leaked online, it was alleged that Hezbollah used ambulances to transfer weapons during the war.[12]

....
....
The Sunday Herald Sun printed pictures that were smuggled out of Lebanon. One showing militants in a Lebanese town riding a truck equipped with an anti-aircraft gun, another showing a militant carrying an AK-47 rifle.[32] The photographer, a Melbourne man who refused to give his name, stated that he was less than 400 meters from the block when it was obliterated. He said that "Hezbollah came in to launch their rockets, then within minutes the area was blasted by Israeli jets ... Until the Hezbollah fighters arrived, it had not been touched by the Israelis. Then it was totally devastated. It was carnage. Two innocent people died in that incident, but it was so lucky it was not more." [32] The New Yorker reported how a Sidon mosque was used as a Hezbollah weapons cache before it was bombed by Israel.[33]

On 5 December 2006, the IDF declassified photographic and video recorded evidence of Hezbollah's human shield tactics.[31] Ynetnews reported:

"The IDF [had] found that Hizbullah is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. Roadblocks have been set up outside some of the villages to prevent residents from leaving, while in other villages Hizbullah is preventing UN representatives from entering, who are trying to help residents leave."[34]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_war_crimes_in_the_2006_Lebanon_War

One only need look at extremism exposed for a demonstration of your version of a balanced perspective .

Leftwinger,

Aaaaah!

So you what you said, IN YOUR POST, is that you don't agree with my opinion and views.

But what about the Hezbollah 'ambulances' ?

Do you concede,

that it is very likely that Hezbollah [acting against all civilised conventions of war], were transporting armaments in vehicles that were marked as ambulances ?

And that THAT, was the reason why those 'ambulances' were targeted by those, murderous 'Joos'/Zionists.

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Reply #279 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 2:10pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:14am:

Worth remembering here that we have an enemy that fires rockets into Israel from apartment blocks in Gaza (knowing full well the IDF will track the launch coordinates and respond with F-16s), they use UN funded schools full of children to hide munitions, they hide behind women and children, they bomb women and children, and they allow and even push their young teens to the border to throw petrol bombs at Border Police.

Quite frankly, Hamas are utter scum who deserve wiping off this planet.

Yes.

Agree, with what you say, Andrei Hicks.

Jeremiah 51:17
Every man is brutish by his knowledge; every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.
18 They are vanity, the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.
19 The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.
20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;
21 And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;
22 With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young; and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the maid;
23 I will also break in pieces with thee the shepherd and his flock; and with thee will I break in pieces the husbandman and his yoke of oxen; and with thee will I break in pieces captains and rulers.
24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the LORD.
25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.

Zechariah 12:2
Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

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Reply #280 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 2:14pm

Yadda wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 1:59pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 12:07am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

I read a similar story in the great war for civilisation

about an Jewish attack helicopter firing a hellfire missile in to an ambulance

,

made me so dam angry.

Leftwinger,

You are making an accusation, against one side, ....but leaving out so much information about those incidents in Lebanon.

Why are you doing that ?

Leftwinger,

If you, personally, were using an ambulance to covertly transport armaments in a conflict zone, [and if i had that option] i would, personally, rain down hellfire missiles in to YOUR ambulance.

'Hasta la vista, baby!'

Leftwinger,

Moslems themselves, made those 'ambulances' legitimate targets,

......if those ambulances were being used by moslem combatants to try to covertly transport armaments.

And those moslems KNEW that.

Or are you going to argue that such tactics, that were being used by the moslem combatants in Lebanon, were wholly legitimate and proper ?

Google;

hezbollah used ambulance, armaments, lebanon

Google;

hezbollah used ambulances to transfer armaments, lebanon

Quote:

.......Israel said that it tried to avoid civilians, and had distributed leaflets calling on civilian residents to evacuate,[6] but that Hezbollah stored weapons in and fired from civilian areas and transferred weapons using ambulances, making those areas legitimate targets,[7] and used civilians as human shields.[8][9][10][11][12]

....
....
Israeli officials accused Hezbollah of intentionally using the civilian population as human shields, and several reports have said that Hezbollah fired rockets from residential areas to draw Israeli fire on those areas, which maximised civilian casualties.[13][14] The IDF released pictures and videos it said demonstrated Hezbollah's use of mosques and homes for rocket storage and launching.[15] The IDF claimed that Hezbollah had set up roadblocks to prevent residents from leaving the warzone,[11] while Amnesty International reported that "around 100,000 civilians were trapped in southern Lebanon, afraid to flee following Israeli threats to target all moving vehicles," and after statements by Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon that "all those now in south Lebanon are terrorists who are related in some way to Hezbollah."[16]

In U.S documents leaked online, it was alleged that Hezbollah used ambulances to transfer weapons during the war.[12]

....
....
The Sunday Herald Sun printed pictures that were smuggled out of Lebanon. One showing militants in a Lebanese town riding a truck equipped with an anti-aircraft gun, another showing a militant carrying an AK-47 rifle.[32] The photographer, a Melbourne man who refused to give his name, stated that he was less than 400 meters from the block when it was obliterated. He said that "Hezbollah came in to launch their rockets, then within minutes the area was blasted by Israeli jets ... Until the Hezbollah fighters arrived, it had not been touched by the Israelis. Then it was totally devastated. It was carnage. Two innocent people died in that incident, but it was so lucky it was not more." [32] The New Yorker reported how a Sidon mosque was used as a Hezbollah weapons cache before it was bombed by Israel.[33]

On 5 December 2006, the IDF declassified photographic and video recorded evidence of Hezbollah's human shield tactics.[31] Ynetnews reported:

"The IDF [had] found that Hizbullah is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. Roadblocks have been set up outside some of the villages to prevent residents from leaving, while in other villages Hizbullah is preventing UN representatives from entering, who are trying to help residents leave."[34]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_war_crimes_in_the_2006_Lebanon_War

One only need look at extremism exposed for a demonstration of your version of a balanced perspective .

Leftwinger,

Aaaaah!

So you what you said, IN YOUR POST, is that you don't agree with my opinion and views.

But what about the Hezbollah 'ambulances' ?

Do you concede,

that it is very likely that Hezbollah [acting against all civilised conventions of war], were transporting armaments in vehicles that were marked as ambulances ?

And that THAT, was the reason why those 'ambulances' were targeted by those, murderous 'Joos'/Zionists.

Read the book and you will see the investigation that went in to proving it was an ambulance doing what ambulances do Shocked

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39726 Gender:	Re: The Hasbara trolls are busy on Ozpolitic Reply #281 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 3:09pm Never go to a gun fight armed with pissy rocks. You'll come second and be shot by Israelis disguised as your mates. But, it is all okay. It was the honourable cousins of Hicks and Tel Aviv HQ authorised it. You can clearly see the smoke signals they used to send the authorisation.
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Reply #282 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 3:55pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:15am:

No. ive always held that view.
If you see a terror group that kills women, martyrs those who slit the throats of young kids as anything other than scum then you need to take a look at your moral values.

Do you think that sniper called home to get permission to continue firing at an unarmed wounded civilian? Or was the order to kill the unarmed civilian and he just had to finish the job?

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Reply #283 - Feb 2^nd, 2016 at 11:46am

random wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 3:55pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:15am:

No. ive always held that view.
If you see a terror group that kills women, martyrs those who slit the throats of young kids as anything other than scum then you need to take a look at your moral values.

Do you think that sniper called home to get permission to continue firing at an unarmed wounded civilian? Or was the order to kill the unarmed civilian and he just had to finish the job?

Engaging with threats requires approval in Tel Aviv, unless in extreme circumstances of endangering IDF lives.
Once approval is granted the engagement has authorisation until the IDF deem the threat to have subsided.

I'm not going to comment on some random you tube clip though.

Just that every IDF personnel I know, and I know quite a few both present and past - behave with the upmost respect and responsibility.

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Reply #284 - Feb 2^nd, 2016 at 1:05pm

We can only assume that the guy in the green shirt was deemed a threat, and that he was 'subsided'. I did not see him carrying either a gun or a bomb.

First he was carrying wounded people then trying to GTFO. That'll teach him, he won't play 'help your mates out' again.

Oh, and I also suppose that the Isreali sniper was just one of those not in your circle of aquaintances.

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