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Reply #225 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am
 
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

The Australian Green being set of useful 1diots.
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Reply #226 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 12:24pm
 
Awful stuff that white phosphorous



Warning Very graphic footage , wasn't the use of it banned ?
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Reply #227 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 3:30pm
 
War is not pleasant.
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Reply #228 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 3:36pm
 
Its time wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 12:24pm:
Awful stuff that white phosphorous



Warning Very graphic footage , wasn't the use of it banned ?


This is from Wiki:

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The assumption that white phosphorus is considered a chemical weapon, and thus constitutes a violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention, is false. During the testimony of Prof. Michael A. Newton at the United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict he said "the law is clear that there are some authorized, perfectly valid uses of white phosphorus munitions". Newton mentions legitimate marking of targets and illumination and shielding of movements as common uses. In urban areas, white phosphorus can prevent incendiary leveling of an area by masking movements in order to avoid snipers or explosive devices. However, a legal weapon can be used in an unlawful way. An intentional attack on a playground would be different than an attack on other areas, and thus is ruled by different sets of international law. Protocol I demands proportionality and 'feasible measures' in order to minimize or eliminate damage to civilian lives or property, stating "It [white phosphorus] is not strictly prohibited, but it[s use] has to be done carefully, and tightly controlled and on the basis of a very detailed targeting analysis".[4][5]

Colonel Desmond Travers, a UN investigator, has said that while white phosphorus is not a chemical weapon, it is harmful to the environment and dangerous for both victims and the doctors that treat them.[4]

According to Lt. Col. Raymond Lane, the quality of smoke created by white phosphorus is superior to other smoke producing agents such as Hexachloroethane and Titanium Tetrachloride, and thus difficult to match for blanket coverage.[4]



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Reply #229 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:56pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

The Australian Green being set of useful 1diots.


How much time have you spent in Israel Andrei?
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Reply #230 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 6:23am
 
random wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

The Australian Green being set of useful 1diots.


How much time have you spent in Israel Andrei?


Adding it up, around a year and a half of my life.
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Reply #231 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 6:44am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

If that's true, you must spend most of your life in a dazed hypnotic funk...

As Tariq Ali said at Sydney's Festival of Dangerous Ideas, - the videos of ISIS committing atrocities against innocent individuals shocks and angers us (as it should), but what is our reaction, Ali goes on to say, to a drone strike on a group of 50 people, where maybe 2 or 3 Taliban/ISIS associated people are present (and its usually impossible to confirm), leaving the majority of the drone strike dead or damaged with severe life-altering injuries? How, he asks, is that any less an atrocity than ISIS terrorists' committing unjustified executions?

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Reply #232 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 6:51am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

The Australian Green being set of useful 1diots.


What always amazes me is that there is no shortage of useful idiots ready to jump on either side as though they are all righteous and entitled and can do no wrong...

Amazing. Both sides have their legitimate gripes and both sides commit their atrocities. Neither side is morally superior or just.

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Reply #233 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 6:52am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
1diots.


Isn't that a breach of the rules?

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Reply #234 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 7:46am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

The Australian Green being set of useful nice people.


Don't you routinely comment on Australia from the other side of the world and repeatedly jump onto one side in this discussion knowing pretty much nothing about it  ?
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Reply #235 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:42pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 6:23am:
random wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

The Australian Green being set of useful nice people.


How much time have you spent in Israel Andrei?


Adding it up, around a year and a half of my life.


I have a Jewish friend with extreme views on what should happen to Palestinians.  'Just shoot them all'.

Turns out that his views are more extreme than most who live in the Israel.  I see that in you.
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Reply #236 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:47pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 6:44am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

If that's true, you must spend most of your life in a dazed hypnotic funk...

As Tariq Ali said at Sydney's Festival of Dangerous Ideas, - the videos of ISIS committing atrocities against innocent individuals shocks and angers us (as it should), but what is our reaction, Ali goes on to say, to a drone strike on a group of 50 people, where maybe 2 or 3 Taliban/ISIS associated people are present (and its usually impossible to confirm), leaving the majority of the drone strike dead or damaged with severe life-altering injuries? How, he asks, is that any less an atrocity than ISIS terrorists' committing unjustified executions?



Most thinking people worked that one out for themselves.  It is disappointing that others have to have that explanined to them at festivals.

Invariably, so far, I have noticed that those who had not thought about the morality of drone strikes, don't want to.  They don't care about 'brown people' being killed.

Drones are the epitome of terror.  Death from the heavens, no warning, no arrest, no trial.   A crime someone should be charged with.
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Reply #237 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 9:30pm
 
random wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:47pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 6:44am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

If that's true, you must spend most of your life in a dazed hypnotic funk...

As Tariq Ali said at Sydney's Festival of Dangerous Ideas, - the videos of ISIS committing atrocities against innocent individuals shocks and angers us (as it should), but what is our reaction, Ali goes on to say, to a drone strike on a group of 50 people, where maybe 2 or 3 Taliban/ISIS associated people are present (and its usually impossible to confirm), leaving the majority of the drone strike dead or damaged with severe life-altering injuries? How, he asks, is that any less an atrocity than ISIS terrorists' committing unjustified executions?



Most thinking people worked that one out for themselves.  It is disappointing that others have to have that explanined to them at festivals.

Invariably, so far, I have noticed that those who had not thought about the morality of drone strikes, don't want to.  They don't care about 'brown people' being killed.

Yes, that was my point... We choose those facts that conform to our (convenient) truths. Its not so much that news media skews our minds as that we are willing to molded by it. And then we trumpet those truths, as a meme, to those like minded.


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Reply #238 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 10:20pm
 
random wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:42pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 6:23am:
random wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

The Australian Green being set of useful nice people.


How much time have you spent in Israel Andrei?


Adding it up, around a year and a half of my life.


I have a Jewish friend with extreme views on what should happen to Palestinians.  'Just shoot them all'.

Turns out that his views are more extreme than most who live in the Israel.  I see that in you.


What views anywhere have I posted as extreme on Israel?
You seem heavily biased against the state of Israel though.
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Reply #239 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 10:28pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 10:20pm:
random wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:42pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 6:23am:
random wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 6:37am:
What always mesmerises me is the readiness of people the other side of the world to jump onto one side in this conflict knowing pretty much nothing about it and not realising that side houses terrorists and those who slit the throats of children and innocent civilians.

The Australian Green being set of useful nice people.


How much time have you spent in Israel Andrei?


Adding it up, around a year and a half of my life.


I have a Jewish friend with extreme views on what should happen to Palestinians.  'Just shoot them all'.

Turns out that his views are more extreme than most who live in the Israel.  I see that in you.


What views anywhere have I posted as extreme on Israel?
You seem heavily biased against the state of Israel though.


No more than you are biased in favour of the State of Israel.  You are unwilling to concede what is a quite likely personal interest.  That is a telling blow on your credibility specifically in this Thread.  You are not being candid Mr Hicks.
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