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Reply #165 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:02pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 10:04pm:
And.....I'll get back to my point which on the surface is laughable, but it is doable.

Why stay in Territory where you and your Family are in permanent danger and under never ending constant threat?  Just get out.  Buy Tasmania.  Hell ~ you could buy the entire Continent.  What is more important Hicks....thumbing 'your' nose at 'stinking' Arabs in Arabia over a lump of very arid dirt, or the ongoing welfare of Jews and your Family?


You don't just randomly pick a land.
Israel wasn't founded in the Holy Land purely by choice.
It is where the people belong. The great Exodus after the horrors of the holocaust was to return the people where they belong.
Israel, Jerusalem, Haifa etc - these are the ancient places where they belong.

Land - and you may scoff - that God himself gave to the Jewish people.

So no, some island off of a country the other side of the world has no bearing or meaning.

To ask the same question - why don't we clear out Gaza and the West Bank and put them all on there?



The Allies did just 'pick a land' after WW2.  Undeniable, and it was just so dumb and it still threatens World peace.  Don't give me your Bible crap.  No-one buys that.  Well I don't.  I am a pragmatic realist, and 'you' and 'your' claimed historic right to some heritage to a piece of dumb arse dirt in the middlle of Arabia is irrelevant to me.   

Sure, the Arabs could buy Tasmania but tell me Mr Hicks....the presence of which group there would be more likely to give World peace at least some chance? 

It seems to me...and anyone who thinks in simple terms......just like 'you'  moved there in the late 1940s, 'you' could follow 'Gods' Will and walk to Tasmania.  I'd expect the Indian/Southern Ocean to open while 'you' make the trek.  Maybe Tasmania was that 'promised land.'
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Reply #166 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:17pm
 
The Jewish people will not be going anywhere and will not be intimidated to do so.
So they either accept that and work towards peace or they continue their futile stone throwing.
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Reply #167 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:35pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:17pm:
The Jewish people will not be going anywhere and will not be intimidated to do so.
So they either accept that and work towards peace or they continue their futile stone throwing.


Of course not.  'You' lot just love playing 'victims' instead of doing something so obvious.  It's all about how big 'your' balls are.  Well, if the USA (it used to be "The Crusades") ever stops propping you up, we'll see just how big they really are.  'You' lot are a belligerent, aggressive mob, obsessed over.............what, in any non 'Jew' language/mentality, is a nothing....a small piece of crap dirt.  It is a barnacle on 'your' hull, and it is what I reckon is the root cause of the current threat to World wide peace.  But, 'you' lot think 'you' are far more important than that.   'You' lot have some 'God' given right.  Bullshit 'you' do.  The USA is giving 'you' that right, not 'God.'

If 'you' really wanted 'Peace' instead of proving some claimed right the rest of the World could not care less about, 'you'd' get out of the place where 'barbarians' surround 'you.'
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Reply #168 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:41pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:18am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:14am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:13am:
Letter to Naz Shah MP who trivialised the dangers of violent rock throwing.



Why am I not surprised by any of this?

  What are you not surprised about Lisa and why ?

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Reply #169 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:40pm
 
We didn't choose the land.
The land chose us. That's just how it is.
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Reply #170 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:04pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:17pm:
The Jewish people will not be going anywhere and will not be intimidated to do so.
So they either accept that and work towards peace or they continue their futile stone throwing.


'futile stone throwing"?  I thought it was really bad shite that killed people?
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Reply #171 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:25pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 10:04pm:
And.....I'll get back to my point which on the surface is laughable, but it is doable.

Why stay in Territory where you and your Family are in permanent danger and under never ending constant threat?  Just get out.  Buy Tasmania.  Hell ~ you could buy the entire Continent.  What is more important Hicks....thumbing 'your' nose at 'stinking' Arabs in Arabia over a lump of very arid dirt, or the ongoing welfare of Jews and your Family?


You don't just randomly pick a land.
Israel wasn't founded in the Holy Land purely by choice.
It is where the people belong. The great Exodus after the horrors of the holocaust was to return the people where they belong.
Israel, Jerusalem, Haifa etc - these are the ancient places where they belong.

Land - and you may scoff - that God himself gave to the Jewish people.

So no, some island off of a country the other side of the world has no bearing or meaning.

To ask the same question - why don't we clear out Gaza and the West Bank and put them all on there?



The Allies did just 'pick a land' after WW2.  Undeniable, and it was just so dumb and it still threatens World peace.  Don't give me your Bible crap.  No-one buys that.  Well I don't.  I am a pragmatic realist, and 'you' and 'your' claimed historic right to some heritage to a piece of dumb arse dirt in the middlle of Arabia is irrelevant to me.   

Sure, the Arabs could buy Tasmania but tell me Mr Hicks....the presence of which group there would be more likely to give World peace at least some chance? 

It seems to me...and anyone who thinks in simple terms......just like 'you'  moved there in the late 1940s, 'you' could follow 'Gods' Will and walk to Tasmania.  I'd expect the Indian/Southern Ocean to open while 'you' make the trek.  Maybe Tasmania was that 'promised land.'


Actually, the idea that "The Allies did just 'pick a land' after WW2" is quite deniable, since the plan to establish both a Jewish Home Land and an Arab State within the area of Palestine was made many years before WW2 even started...Didn't you pay attention in history class, Aussie??
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Reply #172 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:36pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:25pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 10:04pm:
And.....I'll get back to my point which on the surface is laughable, but it is doable.

Why stay in Territory where you and your Family are in permanent danger and under never ending constant threat?  Just get out.  Buy Tasmania.  Hell ~ you could buy the entire Continent.  What is more important Hicks....thumbing 'your' nose at 'stinking' Arabs in Arabia over a lump of very arid dirt, or the ongoing welfare of Jews and your Family?


You don't just randomly pick a land.
Israel wasn't founded in the Holy Land purely by choice.
It is where the people belong. The great Exodus after the horrors of the holocaust was to return the people where they belong.
Israel, Jerusalem, Haifa etc - these are the ancient places where they belong.

Land - and you may scoff - that God himself gave to the Jewish people.

So no, some island off of a country the other side of the world has no bearing or meaning.

To ask the same question - why don't we clear out Gaza and the West Bank and put them all on there?



The Allies did just 'pick a land' after WW2.  Undeniable, and it was just so dumb and it still threatens World peace.  Don't give me your Bible crap.  No-one buys that.  Well I don't.  I am a pragmatic realist, and 'you' and 'your' claimed historic right to some heritage to a piece of dumb arse dirt in the middlle of Arabia is irrelevant to me.   

Sure, the Arabs could buy Tasmania but tell me Mr Hicks....the presence of which group there would be more likely to give World peace at least some chance? 

It seems to me...and anyone who thinks in simple terms......just like 'you'  moved there in the late 1940s, 'you' could follow 'Gods' Will and walk to Tasmania.  I'd expect the Indian/Southern Ocean to open while 'you' make the trek.  Maybe Tasmania was that 'promised land.'


Actually, the idea that "The Allies did just 'pick a land' after WW2" is quite deniable, since the plan to establish both a Jewish Home Land and an Arab State within the area of Palestine was made many years before WW2 even started...Didn't you pay attention in history class, Aussie??



Nah, not much.  So....what happened to the 'plan' to establish 'an Arab State within the area of Palestine?'   
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Reply #173 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:40pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:36pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:25pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 10:04pm:
And.....I'll get back to my point which on the surface is laughable, but it is doable.

Why stay in Territory where you and your Family are in permanent danger and under never ending constant threat?  Just get out.  Buy Tasmania.  Hell ~ you could buy the entire Continent.  What is more important Hicks....thumbing 'your' nose at 'stinking' Arabs in Arabia over a lump of very arid dirt, or the ongoing welfare of Jews and your Family?


You don't just randomly pick a land.
Israel wasn't founded in the Holy Land purely by choice.
It is where the people belong. The great Exodus after the horrors of the holocaust was to return the people where they belong.
Israel, Jerusalem, Haifa etc - these are the ancient places where they belong.

Land - and you may scoff - that God himself gave to the Jewish people.

So no, some island off of a country the other side of the world has no bearing or meaning.

To ask the same question - why don't we clear out Gaza and the West Bank and put them all on there?



The Allies did just 'pick a land' after WW2.  Undeniable, and it was just so dumb and it still threatens World peace.  Don't give me your Bible crap.  No-one buys that.  Well I don't.  I am a pragmatic realist, and 'you' and 'your' claimed historic right to some heritage to a piece of dumb arse dirt in the middlle of Arabia is irrelevant to me.   

Sure, the Arabs could buy Tasmania but tell me Mr Hicks....the presence of which group there would be more likely to give World peace at least some chance? 

It seems to me...and anyone who thinks in simple terms......just like 'you'  moved there in the late 1940s, 'you' could follow 'Gods' Will and walk to Tasmania.  I'd expect the Indian/Southern Ocean to open while 'you' make the trek.  Maybe Tasmania was that 'promised land.'


Actually, the idea that "The Allies did just 'pick a land' after WW2" is quite deniable, since the plan to establish both a Jewish Home Land and an Arab State within the area of Palestine was made many years before WW2 even started...Didn't you pay attention in history class, Aussie??



Nah, not much.  So....what happened to the 'plan' to establish 'an Arab State within the area of Palestine?'   


The Arab League rejected the idea....they wanted all or nothing.
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Reply #174 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:43pm
 
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I'm all eyes.  Show me.
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Reply #175 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:47pm
 
I thought  you were into the fraternal  nature of multiculturalism, Aussie. Jacob and Ishmael were half brothers who built their empires on that arid 'piece of s.h.i.t' dirt. Now your saying that the decendents of Jacob have no place in   their ancestral  home. How is that not racist?
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Reply #176 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:51pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:43pm:
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The Arab League rejected the idea....they wanted all or nothing.


I'm all eyes.  Show me.


"Following adoption of the Alexandria Protocol in 1944, the Arab League was founded on 22 March 1945. It aimed to be a regional organisation of Arab states with a focus to developing the economy, resolving disputes and coordinating political aims. Other countries joined the league at later dates.] Each country was given one vote in the council. The first major action was the joint intervention, allegedly on behalf of the majority Arab population that was being uprooted as the state of Israel emerged in 1948 (and in response to popular protest in the Arab world), although in fact a main participant in this intervention, Transjordan, had agreed with the Israelis to divide up the Arab Palestinian state proposed by the UN General Assembly, while Egypt intervened primarily to prevent its rival in Amman from accomplishing its objective."

And also:

"The UN plan to divide Palestine into independent Arab and Jewish states and a Special International Regime for Jerusalem (November, 1947) had been preceded by a somewhat similar design in July 1937. At that time, the British Peel Commission recommended that Mandate Palestine be partitioned into a small Jewish state, comprising the Galilee, the Jezreal Valley and the coastal plain, and a large Arab state - the rest of Palestine united with Transjordan. Jerusalem, Bethlehem and a few other areas would remain a British Mandate zone.1
The major cause for the 1937 partition proposal, namely that Arab and Jewish interests could not be reconciled, was aggravated in 1947, after both parties rejected the 1946 recommendation by an Anglo-American committee to establish a bi-national state in Palestine under UN trusteeship. While the Jewish community accepted the 1937 and 1947 partition plans, the Palestinian Arab leadership, dominated by the Husseini family, rejected both plans categorically. Indeed, most Palestinians turned down the 1937 design, even though it designated only 20 percent of Palestine to the proposed Jewish state. Furthermore, the Palestinian leadership even rejected the 1939 British White Paper, which had promised them an independent state within ten years while limiting Jewish immigration and turning the Jews into a minority in an Arab Palestinian state"

http://www.pij.org/details.php?id=104
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Reply #177 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 10:08pm
 
So...this....

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they wanted all or nothing.


....is not supported.  Okay.  Just like Hicks will be belligerent which is understandable given his self confessed family Jewish connections...so will I.

That 1947/8 decision was wrong.  It is self evident.  I'm offering Israelis peace in Tasmania.  Why won't they take it, especially given it would just about shut down every threat to World peace coming out of the Middle East.  The west really would have no dog in that fight and the Arabs can do what what Arabs have done since Christendom and before.

As an 'Aussie,' I'd love to know that the armed to the teeth Israelis were just over Bass Strait.
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Reply #178 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 10:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 10:08pm:
So...this....

Quote:
they wanted all or nothing.


....is not supported.  Okay.  Just like Hicks will be belligerent which is understandable given his self confessed family Jewish connections...so will I.

That 1947/8 decision was wrong.  It is self evident.  I'm offering Israelis peace in Tasmania.  Why won't they take it, especially given it would just about shut down every threat to World peace coming out of the Middle East.  The west really would have no dog in that fight and the Arabs can do what what Arabs have done since Christendom and before.

As an 'Aussie,' I'd love to know that the armed to the teeth Israelis were just over Bass Strait.


The decision by the Arab League to reject the partition plan??...Yes it certainly was (even Mahmoud Abbas , the leader of the Palestinian National  Authority has admitted that) , and it was followed by the even bigger mistake to send armies from seven Arab nations to invade and 'destroy' Israel.

Why would the Israelis accept Tasmania? They don't have any historical ties to Tasmania, while they DO have ties to area where Israel is now.
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Reply #179 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 10:38pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 10:21pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 10:08pm:
So...this....

Quote:
they wanted all or nothing.


....is not supported.  Okay.  Just like Hicks will be belligerent which is understandable given his self confessed family Jewish connections...so will I.

That 1947/8 decision was wrong.  It is self evident.  I'm offering Israelis peace in Tasmania.  Why won't they take it, especially given it would just about shut down every threat to World peace coming out of the Middle East.  The west really would have no dog in that fight and the Arabs can do what what Arabs have done since Christendom and before.

As an 'Aussie,' I'd love to know that the armed to the teeth Israelis were just over Bass Strait.


The decision by the Arab League to reject the partition plan??...Yes it certainly was (even Mahmoud Abbas , the leader of the Palestinian National  Authority has admitted that) , and it was followed by the even bigger mistake to send armies from seven Arab nations to invade and 'destroy' Israel.

Why would the Israelis accept Tasmania? They don't have any historical ties to Tasmania, while they DO have ties to area where Israel is now.


I don't have any historical ties to the Sunshine Coast, yet here I am.  It would be no grief whatsoever for Israel to relocate.  Whoever is there now is not second or maybe third generation and if you believe the Bible, waters part for them....so they can drive to Tasmania.  All good.
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