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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #30 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:00pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 8:49am:

As long as he's not in the ironing cabinet ... we know that's reserved for women only.

He could be the Minister for women again.

I haven't felt properly represented since Malcolm took over.

Who is our new Minister for Women? I know I should google that. Is it a woman?

Ridiculous position.
I put it in the same bucket as like Miss Black America.

There ain't no Miss White America like there ain't no Minister for Men.

We don't half have some stupid positions at times.

Ministers should govern for departments (Defence, Home Affairs, Environment) - things impact men and women. A minister just for a gender is idiotic.

I'd ban that position immediately.

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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #31 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:10pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:00pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 8:49am:

As long as he's not in the ironing cabinet ... we know that's reserved for women only.

He could be the Minister for women again.

I haven't felt properly represented since Malcolm took over.

Who is our new Minister for Women? I know I should google that. Is it a woman?

Ridiculous position.
I put it in the same bucket as like Miss Black America.

There ain't no Miss White America like there ain't no Minister for Men.

We don't half have some stupid positions at times.

Ministers should govern for departments (Defence, Home Affairs, Environment) - things impact men and women. A minister just for a gender is idiotic.

I'd ban that position immediately.

That's very true about no minister for men. Valid criticism for having a minister for women. But how would you feel about the minister for men, were we to have one, being female?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36384 Gender:	Re: Tony to be put in cabinet Reply #32 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:12pm A Minister for men would be a great idea.
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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #33 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:12pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:10pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:00pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 8:49am:

As long as he's not in the ironing cabinet ... we know that's reserved for women only.

He could be the Minister for women again.

I haven't felt properly represented since Malcolm took over.

Who is our new Minister for Women? I know I should google that. Is it a woman?

Ridiculous position.
I put it in the same bucket as like Miss Black America.

There ain't no Miss White America like there ain't no Minister for Men.

We don't half have some stupid positions at times.

Ministers should govern for departments (Defence, Home Affairs, Environment) - things impact men and women. A minister just for a gender is idiotic.

I'd ban that position immediately.

That's very true about no minister for men. Valid criticism for having a minister for women. But how would you feel about the minister for men, were we to have one, being female?

I'd find the position equally as ridiculous as the above positions I mention.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tony to be put in cabinet Reply #34 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:17pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:00pm: Ridiculous position. you can thank your old mate Malcolm Fraser for it.
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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #35 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:20pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:00pm:

Ridiculous position.

you can thank your old mate Malcolm Fraser for it.

Unlike some on here John, I am not identified with a party.
I couldn't give a toss who put it there, Fraser did a shitload of good and clearly made some idiotic decisions.

That position is stupid.

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Tony to be put in cabinet Reply #36 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:21pm Tony Abbott, can white ant his way to reducing the Lib Government to even more ridiculous lows- they didn't learn anything from the mistakes of Rudd and Gillard..nothing.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tony to be put in cabinet Reply #37 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:22pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:20pm: Unlike some on here John, I am not identified with a party. you don't honestly believe anyone believes that crap now do you? Every single comment of yours is anti labor and pro liberal. Even now, your default position is to claim that Fraser did a lot of good.
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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #38 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:28pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:22pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:20pm:

Unlike some on here John, I am not identified with a party.

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you don't honestly believe anyone believes that crap now do you? Cheesy

Every single comment of yours is anti labor and pro liberal. Even now, your default position is to claim that Fraser did a lot of good.

What he said ^^^^^^^ X 100.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Tony to be put in cabinet Reply #39 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:28pm Fraser did do a lot of good. Its not just my default position... A starting point of playing a role in removing the worst PM in Australia's history, earns him eternal praise.
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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #40 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:29pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:12pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:10pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:00pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 8:49am:

As long as he's not in the ironing cabinet ... we know that's reserved for women only.

He could be the Minister for women again.

I haven't felt properly represented since Malcolm took over.

Who is our new Minister for Women? I know I should google that. Is it a woman?

Ridiculous position.
I put it in the same bucket as like Miss Black America.

There ain't no Miss White America like there ain't no Minister for Men.

We don't half have some stupid positions at times.

Ministers should govern for departments (Defence, Home Affairs, Environment) - things impact men and women. A minister just for a gender is idiotic.

I'd ban that position immediately.

That's very true about no minister for men. Valid criticism for having a minister for women. But how would you feel about the minister for men, were we to have one, being female?

I'd find the position equally as ridiculous as the above positions I mention.

If that is your position, I can't fault your reasoning. Perhaps they could have a co-minister arrangement for human relations. Does the parliament need to be involved in gender issues? I believe so if there is sufficient discontent among the public.

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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #41 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:31pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:28pm:

A starting point of playing a role in removing the worst PM in Australia's history, earns him eternal praise.

Fraser removed Hawke? Pretty sure you've previously claimed Hawke was the worst ... or is any labor PM 'the worst'? ... that must be that non party bias of yours shining through again

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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #42 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:33pm

True setanta, but there is discontent on a number of issues - we don't create Ministerial positions solely for them either.

The Government should be involved where it can (though I am a large supporter of small Government and there being as little Government as possible) - but be involved based on a specific department level.

If there is under-representation of women in employment for example, it should be an employment issue and dealt with in that manner as opposed to a women's Minister.

I also believe in a completely open field. People get positions based on being the best person for the role, not because of their gender.

As a father of 2 girls, there is none more supportive of women growing up and being to do anything than I.

It's one of the reasons I was so disappointed that Australia's first woman PM was so poor - particularly when the best post war PM Britain has ever had was a woman.

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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #43 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:28pm:

A starting point of playing a role in removing the worst PM in Australia's history, earns him eternal praise.

Fraser removed Hawke? Pretty sure you've previously claimed Hawke was the worst ... or is any labor PM 'the worst'? ... that must be that non party bias of yours shining through again

Andrei also hates unions, like the pilot's union his old man belonged to. The union that could not protect his father's status and pay, the one Bob Hawk betrayed.

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Re: Tony to be put in cabinet
Reply #44 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:35pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:28pm:

A starting point of playing a role in removing the worst PM in Australia's history, earns him eternal praise.

Fraser removed Hawke? Pretty sure you've previously claimed Hawke was the worst ... or is any labor PM 'the worst'? ... that must be that non party bias of yours shining through again

Nope I have stated that Hawke was a despicable sell-out who saw decent honest men lose their jobs because he didn't like their industry.

Whitlam is - and remains - an appalling Socialist and the worst PM ever.

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