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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19955 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #45 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:10pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 12:27am: so making things up is now 'paraphrasing'? Ok then hey, it works for you.
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Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety
Reply #46 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:10pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 2:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 11:38am:

smell the fear in the unions! their dirty dealings are becoming public and they do not like it.

the commissioner would know more about safety than any of these clowns.

the commissioners area of expertise is in the law, not OH&S. What he knows about OH&S is about the same as what you know on it.

AND HAS RULED ON OHS MATTERS. this requires him to understand it in excruciating detail

idiot.

no, it requires him to interpret the legislation, he has no real practicle experience on anything to do with OH&S. There's a big difference between reading a rule that say 'a ladder must lean at no more than 25% of the height of the ladder' and knowing how to place a ladder safely on a work site where there is a lot of rubble and people all over the place..

His job is to interpret the legislation after the fact. The safety officers job is to identify and eliminate hazards before they become a problem. In my opinion a safety officer is immanently more qualified when it comes to OH&S.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #47 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:11pm lee wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:10pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 12:27am: so making things up is now 'paraphrasing'? Ok then hey, it works for you. you made the claim not me.
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Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety
Reply #48 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:12pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:05pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 7:46pm:

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One recommendation includes changes to right-of-entry laws, which allow union officials to enter worksites during suspected safety breaches. Mr Noonan said such changes would be bad for workers.

I wonder how employers would feel if they had OH&S inspectors doing safety audits of their workplaces whenever there's a suspected breach of safety rules? They also have right of entry, and are generally much tougher on safety breaches than union inspectors.

and you dont think right-of-entry has been abused?

imbecile.

everything gets abused ... that doesn't mean it doesn't work

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19955 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #49 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:13pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:11pm: you made the claim not me. You've made multiple claims without foundation.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #50 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:14pm lee wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:11pm: you made the claim not me. You've made multiple claims without foundation. yes ..... and I'm about to make another one You're a smart cookie aren't you!
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19955 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #51 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:15pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:14pm: yes ..... and I'm about to make another one You're a smart cookie aren't you! You finally got one right. The law of averages predicted that.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #52 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:18pm lee wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:15pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:14pm: yes ..... and I'm about to make another one You're a smart cookie aren't you! You finally got one right. The law of averages predicted that. you got one right too ... it was certainly made without foundation
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19955 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #53 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:20pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:18pm: you got one right too ... it was certainly made without foundation The claim may have been made without foundation. You're right, it is just an accident on your part that it is true.
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Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety
Reply #54 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:23pm

lee wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:18pm:

you got one right too ... it was certainly made without foundation

The claim may have been made without foundation. You're right, it is just an accident on your part that it is true.

that's just your opinion ... like it was said, there is no foundation on which one can base that opinion.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19955 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #55 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:24pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:23pm: that's just your opinion ... like it was said, there is no foundation on which one can base that opinion. Yep, and yours doesn't count.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #56 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:25pm lee wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:24pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:23pm: that's just your opinion ... like it was said, there is no foundation on which one can base that opinion. Yep, and yours doesn't count. what makes you think yours does?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19955 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #57 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:27pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:25pm: what makes you think yours does? In the grand scheme of things - no one on these pages has an opinion that counts.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #58 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:29pm lee wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:27pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:25pm: what makes you think yours does? In the grand scheme of things - no one on these pages has an opinion that counts. agree ... so why did you think targeting one above others would help your cause?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19955 Gender:	Re: Commissioner Not Qualified To Speak On Safety Reply #59 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:57pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:29pm: agree ... so why did you think targeting one above others would help your cause? Sometimes I can't help myself and pick the low hanging fruit.
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