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Reply #45 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:25am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:20am:
lee wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:29pm:
You're the one claiming they only caught "small fry". I was wondering how you established that as fact.



they haven't 'caught' anyone yet ... they merely recommended further investigation  ... of that 45 you'll be lucky if they catch one.


ICAC will still have secured the most high profile judo chops, and the most convictions .
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Reply #46 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:26am
 
we should have a federal ICAC ... they won't do it because they want to cover their own arses.
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Reply #47 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:38am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 1:52am:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 11:41pm:
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The banks are still refusing to cooperate with the authorities after defrauding thousands of customers. Major Australian and foreign companies continue to evade tax with little government reprimand. If Malcolm Turnbull is serious about strengthening trade unions as he said today then he should give working communities more rights in their workplace. He should also support the Road Safety Remuneration Tribunal which is defending owner drivers and transport companies against wealthy retailers which are driving down safety and conditions through their low cost contracts,” he added.   Sad



Banks are regulated by several government authorities

What government authorities are regulating union corruption?

So why are we allowing the union to compare Banks and Union corruptions?

Because Labor/Union believe the voters are m#r0ns



But... but... but.. 'socialist' Fuhrer Keating de-regulated the banks to free up capital and open up investment....

the banks... (wait for it)... 'self-regulate'.......  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin     Cry


... Give him no rest !!! ...
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Re: Union Demands Apology From Royal Commision
Reply #48 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:42am
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:42pm:
lee wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:08pm:
lee wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:00pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 3:20pm:
In any man's language, 45 is a handfull of small fry



Do you have qualified accounts to confirm the "small fry" status?


Huh?



You're the one claiming they only caught "small fry". I was wondering how you established that as fact.


Have a look at the list.  All small fry.



do you think shortarse started at the TOP? Grin Grin Grin

well alright we know some do. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Union Demands Apology From Royal Commision
Reply #49 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 1:55pm
 
Its time wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:25am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:20am:
lee wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:29pm:
You're the one claiming they only caught "small fry". I was wondering how you established that as fact.



they haven't 'caught' anyone yet ... they merely recommended further investigation  ... of that 45 you'll be lucky if they catch one.


ICAC will still have secured the most high profile judo chops, and the most convictions .

Fateful trip to luxury Perth car dealer exposes TWU funds misappropriation

By Rebecca Turner   

Updated 4 minutes ago


Proceedings at the Royal Commission
Photo: The trade union royal commission recommended Jim McGiveron and Richard Burton be referred to the Fair Work Commission. (AAP: Jeremy Piper, file photo)

Related Story: Further probe looms for union bosses who bought luxury 4WDs



Map:  WA

It started with a fateful trip to a luxury car dealer in Perth three years ago and has resulted a damning exposure of how easily union money was able to be misappropriated by two Transport Workers Union (TWU) bosses.

This is how two luxury utilities vehicles started a money trail which led to the trade union royal commission.

It was a Wednesday morning in winter when Richard Burton, the assistant secretary of the WA branch of the TWU, decided to visit a couple of Perth car yards.

His colleague Glen Barron drove him to the luxury Barbagallo Motors dealership in Osborne Park and was under the impression that his superior was in the market for a new car for himself.

Amid the Lamborghinis, Maseratis and other luxury cars, Mr Burton had his eyes on a top-of-the-range Ford ute, the F350.

Mr Burton told Mr Barron he planned to sell his own Ford F250 to buy the new F350 for himself, Mr Barron later explained in a witness statement to the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption.

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Reply #50 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 2:26pm
 
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 1:55pm:
Its time wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:25am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:20am:
lee wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:29pm:
You're the one claiming they only caught "small fry". I was wondering how you established that as fact.



they haven't 'caught' anyone yet ... they merely recommended further investigation  ... of that 45 you'll be lucky if they catch one.


ICAC will still have secured the most high profile judo chops, and the most convictions .

Fateful trip to luxury Perth car dealer exposes TWU funds misappropriation

By Rebecca Turner   

Updated 4 minutes ago


Proceedings at the Royal Commission
Photo: The trade union royal commission recommended Jim McGiveron and Richard Burton be referred to the Fair Work Commission. (AAP: Jeremy Piper, file photo)

Related Story: Further probe looms for union bosses who bought luxury 4WDs



Map:  WA

It started with a fateful trip to a luxury car dealer in Perth three years ago and has resulted a damning exposure of how easily union money was able to be misappropriated by two Transport Workers Union (TWU) bosses.

This is how two luxury utilities vehicles started a money trail which led to the trade union royal commission.

It was a Wednesday morning in winter when Richard Burton, the assistant secretary of the WA branch of the TWU, decided to visit a couple of Perth car yards.

His colleague Glen Barron drove him to the luxury Barbagallo Motors dealership in Osborne Park and was under the impression that his superior was in the market for a new car for himself.

Amid the Lamborghinis, Maseratis and other luxury cars, Mr Burton had his eyes on a top-of-the-range Ford ute, the F350.

Mr Burton told Mr Barron he planned to sell his own Ford F250 to buy the new F350 for himself, Mr Barron later explained in a witness statement to the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption.

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Wow, why didn't anyone tell the cops?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Union Demands Apology From Royal Commision
Reply #51 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 2:48pm
 
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 1:55pm:
Its time wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:25am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:20am:
lee wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:29pm:
You're the one claiming they only caught "small fry". I was wondering how you established that as fact.



they haven't 'caught' anyone yet ... they merely recommended further investigation  ... of that 45 you'll be lucky if they catch one.


ICAC will still have secured the most high profile judo chops, and the most convictions .

Fateful trip to luxury Perth car dealer exposes TWU funds misappropriation

By Rebecca Turner   

Updated 4 minutes ago


Proceedings at the Royal Commission
Photo: The trade union royal commission recommended Jim McGiveron and Richard Burton be referred to the Fair Work Commission. (AAP: Jeremy Piper, file photo)

Related Story: Further probe looms for union bosses who bought luxury 4WDs



Map:  WA

It started with a fateful trip to a luxury car dealer in Perth three years ago and has resulted a damning exposure of how easily union money was able to be misappropriated by two Transport Workers Union (TWU) bosses.

This is how two luxury utilities vehicles started a money trail which led to the trade union royal commission.

It was a Wednesday morning in winter when Richard Burton, the assistant secretary of the WA branch of the TWU, decided to visit a couple of Perth car yards.

His colleague Glen Barron drove him to the luxury Barbagallo Motors dealership in Osborne Park and was under the impression that his superior was in the market for a new car for himself.

Amid the Lamborghinis, Maseratis and other luxury cars, Mr Burton had his eyes on a top-of-the-range Ford ute, the F350.

Mr Burton told Mr Barron he planned to sell his own Ford F250 to buy the new F350 for himself, Mr Barron later explained in a witness statement to the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption.

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What's the rest of the story?  Did he sell his F250 to buy the F4350?  Or what?

A Tale of Two Fordies?

It was the best of crimes..... it was the worst of crimes.....
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Re: Union Demands Apology From Royal Commision
Reply #52 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 4:08pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 2:23pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:53pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:35pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 12:17pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 12:05pm:
what i do have a problem is how so many absoletely reject any investigation of unions.


then you have no problem ... since no one has rejected ANY investigation. What they object to is political witch hunts at the unions expense


... and the public's expense.....

How did Dyson 'know" it was on the tip of some 'iceberg'?  Is this like the feminist's dreams of six out of seven rapes are never aired and for every paedophile there are countless potential paedophiles?

There is a huge difference between Dreamland and Realityworld......




LOL last person on the planet who should be saying that. you LIVE in dream world. you sleep in the land of delusion.


There you go again.. not one shred of proof or support in any way - yet your rave on and on, seeking to find a weak spot by hammering away at an absolutely armour-plated position held by me (or anyone else).  You really are one sick puppy, and your constant repetition of the same nonsense makes not one iota of difference to the truth.

It is YOU who are delusional... but keep trying.  Roll Eyes 

When will you produce any support for your unsubstantiated views?


Word for today:-  subustiation (n) - the status of having either zero substantiation or having claimed substantiation blown to ribbons... see Longy

- Grappler Concise Dictionary, 2016 edition.


How did Dyson know???  A year of hearings and you think you are mor informed than him?

only JS keeps you from being the most ignorant of people on here. even mothra is above you. She at least can spell.
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Reply #53 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 4:17pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 4:08pm:
only JS keeps you from being the most ignorant of people on here



you're just being modest longstupidone ... we all know you are by far the biggest idiot on here. That's why you constantly get owned by everyone and anyone including those you claim are idiots   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #54 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 8:18am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 2:48pm:
aussie100percent wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 1:55pm:
Its time wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:25am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 9:20am:
[quote author=leeforward link=1451549194/33#33 date=1451633353]

You're the one claiming they only caught "small fry". I was wondering how you established that as fact.



they haven't 'caught' anyone yet ... they merely recommended further investigation  ... of that 45 you'll be lucky if they catch one.


ICAC will still have secured the most high profile judo chops, and the most convictions .

Fateful trip to luxury Perth car dealer exposes TWU funds misappropriation

By Rebecca Turner   

Updated 4 minutes ago


Proceedings at the Royal Commission
Photo: The trade union royal commission recommended Jim McGiveron and Richard Burton be referred to the Fair Work Commission. (AAP: Jeremy Piper, file photo)

Related Story: Further probe looms for union bosses who bought luxury 4WDs



Map:  WA

It started with a fateful trip to a luxury car dealer in Perth three years ago and has resulted a damning exposure of how easily union money was able to be misappropriated by two Transport Workers Union (TWU) bosses.

This is how two luxury utilities vehicles started a money trail which led to the trade union royal commission.

It was a Wednesday morning in winter when Richard Burton, the assistant secretary of the WA branch of the TWU, decided to visit a couple of Perth car yards.

His colleague Glen Barron drove him to the luxury Barbagallo Motors dealership in Osborne Park and was under the impression that his superior was in the market for a new car for himself.

Amid the Lamborghinis, Maseratis and other luxury cars, Mr Burton had his eyes on a top-of-the-range Ford ute, the F350.

Mr Burton told Mr Barron he planned to sell his own Ford F250 to buy the new F350 for himself, Mr Barron later explained in a witness statement to the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption.

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fateful day for the union, which as the union representing workers in transport industries ranging from aviation to trucking knows a bit about vehicles.

Later that day, at 5pm, the branch's management committee, known as BCOM, met in the union boardroom.




For James McGiveron to remain in the room was to help cloud with sentimentality and emotion the minds of BCOM members who should have been allowed to think more hard-headedly about the meaning, the possible implications and the merits of the car resolution.

Trade union royal commission report



Among the 14 people in attendance were Mr Burton, the union's then branch secretary James McGiveron, and Tim Dawson, who was to take over as secretary in April 2014.

It was common knowledge among officials that Mr McGiveron, a formidable and popular boss who was also the national president of the TWU, planned to step down as branch secretary in the near future.

"He had been a very long-serving secretary," the final report of the royal commission said.

"He had a very forceful personality. He was deeply respected by the BCOM members. He was a man for whom they had great affection."

But Mr McGiveron made his intentions official at this meeting, announcing that he would resign and take up a newly created position as a gas and mining officer, leaving Mr Burton to take the top job from January 1, 2013, without having to face an immediate election.

The committee also passed a resolution that Mr McGiveron was to be "granted personal ownership of the union motor vehicle that he is driving at the time his employment ceases with the branch".

The minutes of the meeting do not identify who presented this resolution to the council, but the royal commission report said it was likely that Mr McGiveron drafted and recommended it.

Despite an obvious conflict of interest, Mr McGiveron did not absent himself from any discussions about it.

Minds of BCOM members 'clouded with emotion'

"For James McGiveron to remain in the room was to help cloud with sentimentality and emotion the minds of BCOM members who should have been allowed to think more hard-headedly about the meaning, the possible implications and the merits of the car resolution," the royal commission report said.

In his witness statement to the royal commission, bus organiser Kevin Starr explains a possible motivation behind the generous car resolution.

"I do recall the discussion in respect of this motion," Mr Starr said.

Close up shot of Former TWU national president and WA branch secretary Jim McGiveron
Photo: Jim McGiveron gives evidence at the trade union royal commission. (Fairfax Media)



"Around the time of that resolution, Kevin Reynolds had just retired from the CFMEU and he'd been gifted by the union a flash Range Rover.

"This was discussed at the BCOM. BCOM members also discussed that it would be an appropriate gesture to sign over to Mr McGiveron the car he was driving at the time he left."

But while Mr McGiveron had been driving a $50,000 Toyota LandCruiser when he supported the resolution, he left the union in July 2013 with a four-month-old, $150,000 F350 truck.

Six days after the meeting, Mr McGiveron handed over two contracts to buy two 2013 Ford F350s to his executive assistant Debra Hodgson and asked her to pay an $80,000 deposit to Barbagallo Motors.

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Reply #55 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 8:40am
 
Kat wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 9:40pm:
ALL unions and ALL unionists should be demanding quite a bit more than just an apology.


Including those found to have behaved corruptly?
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Reply #56 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 9:02am
 
I think any union that was cleared of any corruption allegations should be able to claim costs of appearing before the RC.

Seems fair to me!
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Reply #57 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 9:19am
 
Saul Goodman wrote on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 9:02am:
I think any union that was cleared of any corruption allegations should be able to claim costs of appearing before the RC.

Seems fair to me!



you can bet if it was Murdoch asking to be compensated they'd all be supporting him Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #58 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 10:45am
 
Saul Goodman wrote on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 9:02am:
I think any union that was cleared of any corruption allegations should be able to claim costs of appearing before the RC.

Seems fair to me!


.....they should go on strike about it
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Reply #59 - Jan 3rd, 2016 at 11:25am
 
Saul Goodman wrote on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 9:02am:
I think any union that was cleared of any corruption allegations should be able to claim costs of appearing before the RC.

Seems fair to me!



What mechanism can be used? In a court of law you have to sue for recovery of costs.

An RC has no power to repay costs.
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