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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61258 Here Gender:	Re: Tony to make a comeback? Reply #15 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:01am Who cares. Too big a risk I would think.
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Reply #16 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:01am

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 9:55am:

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

I very much doubt it... look what shortarse has on his front bench....all people that were never on his side.. all swore allegiance to both krudd and gillard....

all basically not to be trusted....

and now Mal finds himself in the same position...GOOD.

they say its lonely at the top... Cheesy

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somehow I dont think arrogant Mal will be affected by that.

It's good to see the wounds still festering after all of this time Cheesy

LOL

I see the convicted DRUG DEALERS wife spitting her venom and hate on your ABC over the last two days

Ugly Pollack peasant Grin

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Reply #17 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:11am

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:34am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:27am:

Lets hope not.

no, no .... as a labor supporter I want tony front and center. Grin

Or perhaps in the Ministry, undermining Turnbull.

The best place for Abbott IMO is out of politics altogether. Except for MacMahon who stayed in Parliament for nearly 10 years, no ex-PM in the past 50 years has lasted more than about three years in Parliament once they lost the office of PM.

Time in Parliament after being PM:
Menzies - 3 weeks (retired as PM)
Holt - none (died in office)
McEwen - 3 years, 2 months (caretaker PM)
Gorton - 4 years, 8 months
McMahon - 9 years, 3 months
Whitlam - 2 years, 7 months (2 years as Opposition leader)
Fraser - 2 months
Hawke - 2 months
Keating - 1½ months
Howard - none (lost seat at election)
Rudd (1st) - 3 years, 5 months
Gillard - 2½ months
Rudd (2nd) - 2 months

Rudd lasted longer than most after his first stint as PM, look what happened. Whitlam stayed on for 2 years as Opposition leader and then left Parliament 7 months after losing the 1977 election.

It has been 3 months since Abbott lost the office of PM. He has already stayed in Parliament after losing the PM office longer than his six predecessors except for Rudd's first stint.

Is this significant? Does Abbott still hold out hope of being PM again? If not, why does he stay on in Parliament? Perhaps he wants to leave office at the next election, but if so, why is there no announcement? Leaving it late makes it hard for the Liberals to preselect a good replacement for the Division of Warringah. Perhaps Abbott is still making up his mind. Or is Abbott planning a similar comeback to Rudd?

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6382 Australia Gender:	Re: Tony to make a comeback? Reply #18 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:14am Turnbull may recoup many of the Lib supporters that turned their back on the Party when he backstabbed Abbott, if Abbott returned to the Front Bench. I will not vote Liberal if Turnbull leads the Coalition come Election time.
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Re: Tony to make a comeback?
Reply #19 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:18am

Fuzzball wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

Turnbull may recoup many of the Lib supporters that turned their back on the Party when he backstabbed Abbott, if Abbott returned to the Front Bench. I will not vote Liberal if Turnbull leads the Coalition come Election time.

it wont happen this LIb still wont vote for him...

we cant be BOUGHT like some lefties..

a dirty deed done by a sneaky person is not for me...

you guys love em... you are welcome the them..

I guess you have no choice in the matter your team is very dirty and sneaky..all the way through.

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Reply #20 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:21am

Bam wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:34am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:27am:

Lets hope not.

no, no .... as a labor supporter I want tony front and center. Grin

Or perhaps in the Ministry, undermining Turnbull.

The best place for Abbott IMO is out of politics altogether. Except for MacMahon who stayed in Parliament for nearly 10 years, no ex-PM in the past 50 years has lasted more than about three years in Parliament once they lost the office of PM.

Time in Parliament after being PM:
Menzies - 3 weeks (retired as PM)
Holt - none (died in office)
McEwen - 3 years, 2 months (caretaker PM)
Gorton - 4 years, 8 months
McMahon - 9 years, 3 months
Whitlam - 2 years, 7 months (2 years as Opposition leader)
Fraser - 2 months
Hawke - 2 months
Keating - 1½ months
Howard - none (lost seat at election)
Rudd (1st) - 3 years, 5 months
Gillard - 2½ months
Rudd (2nd) - 2 months

Rudd lasted longer than most after his first stint as PM, look what happened. Whitlam stayed on for 2 years as Opposition leader and then left Parliament 7 months after losing the 1977 election.

It has been 3 months since Abbott lost the office of PM. He has already stayed in Parliament after losing the PM office longer than his six predecessors except for Rudd's first stint.

Is this significant? Does Abbott still hold out hope of being PM again? If not, why does he stay on in Parliament? Perhaps he wants to leave office at the next election, but if so, why is there no announcement? Leaving it late makes it hard for the Liberals to preselect a good replacement for the Division of Warringah. Perhaps Abbott is still making up his mind. Or is Abbott planning a similar comeback to Rudd?

it is undermining..... gillard learnt that in a BIG WAY....leave him on the back bench.....he can do what he wants.. no ones business.......gillard should never have given krudd a portfolio...

I cant speak for Abbott but he doesnt strike me as a dirty deed payback type...but who knows...

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Reply #21 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:22am

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 9:27am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:50am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:34am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:27am:

Lets hope not.

no, no .... as a labor supporter I want tony front and center. Grin

I thought you voted on issues John?

and how have any of the 'issues' and the libs position on them changed since turncoat took office?

You're dodging Andrei's question john. You've clearly identified yourself here as a Labor voter, without qualification, and in the past I can recall you saying you were a swing voter who voted according to the issues.
You can't be both.

I generally, but not always, vote labor. I voted labor at the last 3 federal elections and so feel that I qualify as a labor voter. ..... The libs despite all their promises and claims, are only ever interested in undermining employees rights and wages, and helping their corporate mates at the expense of the general public. If you think that is not an issue then I can't help you.

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Reply #22 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:23am

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 9:29am:

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 9:27am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:50am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:34am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:27am:

Lets hope not.

no, no .... as a labor supporter I want tony front and center. Grin

I thought you voted on issues John?

and how have any of the 'issues' and the libs position on them changed since turncoat took office?

You're dodging Andrei's question john. You've clearly identified yourself here as a Labor voter, without qualification, and in the past I can recall you saying you were a swing voter who voted according to the issues.
You can't be both.

he can hes a lefty

its you who cant...

hes a member of the good old Double Standards party.. Grin

no double standards cods ... it's not my fault the libs fail on all the major issues

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tony to make a comeback? Reply #23 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:25am cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:21am: I cant speak for Abbott but he doesnt strike me as a dirty deed payback type...but who knows. who do you think has been orchestrating the leaks against turncoat?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tony to make a comeback? Reply #24 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:26am cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:18am: we cant be BOUGHT like some lefties.. but you can ... Howard proved that
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Tony to make a comeback? Reply #25 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:35am John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:26am: cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:18am: we cant be BOUGHT like some lefties.. but you can ... Howard proved that yeah he went to the election with the GST and I voted for it.. oh was that me being bought??.. I didnt realise that.
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Reply #26 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:38am

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:35am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

we cant be BOUGHT like some lefties..

but you can ... Howard proved that

yeah he went to the election with the GST and I voted for it..

oh was that me being bought??.. I didnt realise that. Roll Eyes

no, that was the democrats being bought. The majority of people (by a long way) voted against the GST

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Reply #27 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:40am

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:38am:

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:35am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

we cant be BOUGHT like some lefties..

but you can ... Howard proved that

yeah he went to the election with the GST and I voted for it..

oh was that me being bought??.. I didnt realise that. Roll Eyes

no, that was the democrats being bought. The majority of people (by a long way) voted against the GST

That's bullshit ! Grin

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Reply #28 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:44am

aussie100percent wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:40am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:38am:

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:35am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

we cant be BOUGHT like some lefties..

but you can ... Howard proved that

yeah he went to the election with the GST and I voted for it..

oh was that me being bought??.. I didnt realise that. Roll Eyes

no, that was the democrats being bought. The majority of people (by a long way) voted against the GST

That's bullshit ! Grin

no it's not. I don't remember the exact number off hand but it was something like 55% voted against the libs and their GST.

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Reply #29 - Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:55am

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:44am:

aussie100percent wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:40am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:38am:

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:35am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

cods wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

we cant be BOUGHT like some lefties..

but you can ... Howard proved that

yeah he went to the election with the GST and I voted for it..

oh was that me being bought??.. I didnt realise that. Roll Eyes

no, that was the democrats being bought. The majority of people (by a long way) voted against the GST

That's bullshit ! Grin

no it's not. I don't remember the exact number off hand but it was something like 55% voted against the libs and their GST.

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