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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Should we ignore Geneva Convention Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:08pm ALL muslim terrorists are ignoring the Geneva convention. The Geneva convention has hamstrung allied forces in combating the enemy The Geneva convention is costing Western lives Should we suspend compliance to Geneva Convention and get rid of ISIS Or do we risk more Western lives to take the moral high ground?
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention Reply #1 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:11pm Whatever it takes, no one is going to be crying about the Geneva Convention when their sons are having their throats cut in the middle of street.
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Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention
Reply #2 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:14pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:

ALL muslim terrorists are ignoring the Geneva convention.

The Geneva convention has hamstrung allied forces in combating the enemy

The Geneva convention is costing Western lives

Should we suspend compliance to Geneva Convention and get rid of ISIS

Or do we risk more Western lives to take the moral high ground?

Exactly what part of the Convention are you referring to?

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Sun Tzu Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1148 Gender:	Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention Reply #3 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:27pm Maqqa wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:08pm: Should we suspend compliance to Geneva Convention and get rid of ISIS If USA and the coalition abandons the Geneva convention ISIS will be handed a major victory. Humanitarian organizations would not stand for it.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention Reply #4 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:38pm ISIS are playing to a set of rules. Those rules are, 'there are no rules'. Game on ISIS
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39712 Gender:	Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention Reply #5 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:43pm red baron wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:38pm: ISIS are playing to a set of rules. Those rules are, 'there are no rules'. Game on ISIS Well....it is their 'Country' we have invaded and bombed we are playing in. I'd say they are entitled to repel us from their Lands anyway they bloody well like.
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Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention
Reply #6 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:48pm

We fight with honour. They do not. If we fight like them then really there's no difference between us.

We don't need to break the Geneva Convention to beat them. In fact, doing so just makes more enemies for us to fight.

If you really want to fight ISIS so badly go and fight them instead of talking crap on the internet about what you think should happen.

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Reply #7 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 3:00pm

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

We fight with honour. They do not. If we fight like them then really there's no difference between us.

We don't need to break the Geneva Convention to beat them. In fact, doing so just makes more enemies for us to fight.

If you really want to fight ISIS so badly go and fight them instead of talking crap on the internet about what you think should happen.

Nah. I'll tell you on this screen and I'd tell you to your acned face that we have no right to be there in the Land of Arabs, killing them, and bombing their homes. None whatsoever. Let them have their schitt fight free of our stuck in nose, just like they have for centuries. History tells me that sticking our nose in (every time we have) has made the situation there, and World wide, far worse.

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Reply #8 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 3:01pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:14pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:

ALL muslim terrorists are ignoring the Geneva convention.

The Geneva convention has hamstrung allied forces in combating the enemy

The Geneva convention is costing Western lives

Should we suspend compliance to Geneva Convention and get rid of ISIS

Or do we risk more Western lives to take the moral high ground?

Exactly what part of the Convention are you referring to?

Well Maqqa?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61318 Here Gender:	Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention Reply #9 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 3:39pm We showed in Iraq and Afghanistan that we only remain within the Geneva convention when it is convenient.
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Reply #10 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 4:57pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 3:00pm:

Nah. I'll tell you on this screen and I'd tell you to your acned face that we have no right to be there in the Land of Arabs, killing them, and bombing their homes. None whatsoever. Let them have their schitt fight free of our stuck in nose, just like they have for centuries. History tells me that sticking our nose in (every time we have) has made the situation there, and World wide, far worse.

Well, that depends. Were we justified in attacking the Taliban and Al-Qaeda after 9/11. Yes.
Were we Justified in invading Iraq? No.
Are we justified in trying to destroy ISIL. Yes, we are. Their stated goal is to impose a global caliphate on the rest of the world and it would be foolish to allow them to take the Middle East and be a much more powerful military machine than they currently are now.

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Reply #11 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:04pm

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Are we justified in trying to destroy ISIL. Yes, we are. Their stated goal is to impose a global caliphate on the rest of the world and it would be foolish to allow them to take the Middle East and be a much more powerful military machine than they currently are now.

Oh I see. I should get all hairy chested because some towel head in the Land of Arabs says he is gonna come and get me in Australia and you in the mythical Land of Liberty (he only says that because I am over there shooting at him, as you are.)

Yankers like them are a dime a dozen, and yet they always sort it out themselves in their own (tribal) Lands, and if only we kept out of it, things would be a great deal better for us.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention Reply #12 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:06pm Of course Aussie but after all they have declared an international Jihad against 'the rest of us' so I guess we are allowed to reply in kind......
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Reply #13 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:09pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Oh I see. I should get all hairy chested because some towel head in the Land of Arabs says he is gonna come and get me in Australia and you in the mythical Land of Liberty (he only says that because I am over there shooting at him, as you are.)

Yankers like them are a dime a dozen, and yet they always sort it out themselves in their own (tribal) Lands, and if only we kept out of it, things would be a great deal better for us.

Would you rather wait until they have achieved their stated goals in being militarily ready to take on the West by sweeping through the Middle East and establishing a large state and capturing state of the art weaponry and then face them when they have those capabilities rather than prevent them from getting to that stage?

It is foolish to underestimate the capabilities of your enemies based on your belief that they are inferior human beings.

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Reply #14 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:11pm

red baron wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:06pm:

Of course Aussie but after all they have declared an international Jihad against 'the rest of us' so I guess we are allowed to reply in kind......

'Whoop de doo.' So, if an Eskimo rattles his *whatever* and proclaims, "I'm going to take over Australia," we ought send the bombers over to his Land and destroy him and his home?

Yeah.....that works.

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Question: Should we ignore Geneva convention?
Yes 2 (15.4%) No 11 (84.6%) Total votes: 13 « Created by: Maqqa on: Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:08pm »