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Reply #15 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:14pm

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Oh I see. I should get all hairy chested because some towel head in the Land of Arabs says he is gonna come and get me in Australia and you in the mythical Land of Liberty (he only says that because I am over there shooting at him, as you are.)

Yankers like them are a dime a dozen, and yet they always sort it out themselves in their own (tribal) Lands, and if only we kept out of it, things would be a great deal better for us.

Would you rather wait until they have achieved their stated goals in being militarily ready to take on the West by sweeping through the Middle East and establishing a large state and capturing state of the art weaponry and then face them when they have those capabilities rather than prevent them from getting to that stage?

In one word.......yes.......and the chances of that happening are minuscule.

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It is foolish to underestimate the capabilities of your enemies based on your belief that they are inferior human beings.

I am basing my comments on the simple fact that they do not have the means to get anywhere near Australia, or America. They cannot even get into Turkey, their neighbour.

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Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention
Reply #16 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:36pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:11pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:06pm:

Of course Aussie but after all they have declared an international Jihad against 'the rest of us' so I guess we are allowed to reply in kind......

'Whoop de doo.' So, if an Eskimo rattles his *whatever* and proclaims, "I'm going to take over Australia," we ought send the bombers over to his Land and destroy him and his home?

Yeah.....that works.

When he has the intention and means to obtain further means to carry out those attacks then we should most certainly stop him from gaining those means and destroy his capability to do so. If that doesn't stop him then we kill him.

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Reply #17 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:38pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Oh I see. I should get all hairy chested because some towel head in the Land of Arabs says he is gonna come and get me in Australia and you in the mythical Land of Liberty (he only says that because I am over there shooting at him, as you are.)

Yankers like them are a dime a dozen, and yet they always sort it out themselves in their own (tribal) Lands, and if only we kept out of it, things would be a great deal better for us.

Would you rather wait until they have achieved their stated goals in being militarily ready to take on the West by sweeping through the Middle East and establishing a large state and capturing state of the art weaponry and then face them when they have those capabilities rather than prevent them from getting to that stage?

In one word.......yes.......and the chances of that happening are minuscule.

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It is foolish to underestimate the capabilities of your enemies based on your belief that they are inferior human beings.

I am basing my comments on the simple fact that they do not have the means to get anywhere near Australia, or America. They cannot even get into Turkey, their neighbour.

Would you like to wait until they've swept through the Middle East and captured more advanced methods of warfare that gives them the capability to hit us in our own countries before we go and fight them where they are? Doing so will be at greater cost to us in terms of wealth and the lives of our military personnel.

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Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention
Reply #18 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:03pm

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Oh I see. I should get all hairy chested because some towel head in the Land of Arabs says he is gonna come and get me in Australia and you in the mythical Land of Liberty (he only says that because I am over there shooting at him, as you are.)

Yankers like them are a dime a dozen, and yet they always sort it out themselves in their own (tribal) Lands, and if only we kept out of it, things would be a great deal better for us.

Would you rather wait until they have achieved their stated goals in being militarily ready to take on the West by sweeping through the Middle East and establishing a large state and capturing state of the art weaponry and then face them when they have those capabilities rather than prevent them from getting to that stage?

In one word.......yes.......and the chances of that happening are minuscule.

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It is foolish to underestimate the capabilities of your enemies based on your belief that they are inferior human beings.

I am basing my comments on the simple fact that they do not have the means to get anywhere near Australia, or America. They cannot even get into Turkey, their neighbour.

Would you like to wait until they've swept through the Middle East and captured more advanced methods of warfare that gives them the capability to hit us in our own countries before we go and fight them where they are? Doing so will be at greater cost to us in terms of wealth and the lives of our military personnel.

I have already answered that with a very solid....'yes.' I have also made the observation that, given the centuries old tribal divisions in the Land of Arabs, the chance of that happening is minuscule. It's a risk I'm happy to take, and I regard the fact that we are over there interfering in their domestic as the very reason they fight back at us. Do you honestly believe that you can just waltz into Arabia, kill them, bomb their homes, destroy their Lands, and they just will sit back and cop it! If you do, you are an idiot, one very likely to go slaughter a few kids at a School with your open carry weapon, because you can.

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Reply #19 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:24pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:03pm:

I have already answered that with a very solid....'yes.' I have also made the observation that, given the centuries old tribal divisions in the Land of Arabs, the chance of that happening is minuscule. It's a risk I'm happy to take, and I regard the fact that we are over there interfering in their domestic as the very reason they fight back at us. Do you honestly believe that you can just waltz into Arabia, kill them, bomb their homes, destroy their Lands, and they just will sit back and cop it! If you do, you are an idiot, one very likely to go slaughter a few kids at a School with your open carry weapon, because you can.

I'm not suggesting we should kill any innocent people. I'm saying that ISIL has the ability to seize large swaths of territory, armaments and they are very good at what they do. If everyone stays out of this and leaves it just to the Arabs then ISIL will control the Middle East within 10 years.

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Reply #20 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:27pm

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:03pm:

I have already answered that with a very solid....'yes.' I have also made the observation that, given the centuries old tribal divisions in the Land of Arabs, the chance of that happening is minuscule. It's a risk I'm happy to take, and I regard the fact that we are over there interfering in their domestic as the very reason they fight back at us. Do you honestly believe that you can just waltz into Arabia, kill them, bomb their homes, destroy their Lands, and they just will sit back and cop it! If you do, you are an idiot, one very likely to go slaughter a few kids at a School with your open carry weapon, because you can.

I'm not suggesting we should kill any innocent people. I'm saying that ISIL has the ability to seize large swaths of territory, armaments and they are very good at what they do. If everyone stays out of this and leaves it just to the Arabs then ISIL will control the Middle East within 10 years.

Indeed, they will manage something that bin Laden and centuries of others like him have never been able to do. Just go and read some history.

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Reply #22 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:05pm

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:27pm:

Indeed, they will manage something that bin Laden and centuries of others like him have never been able to do. Just go and read some history.

Bin Laden's goal was not to take over the world, nor to even take over the Middle East.

Blaaaaady hell. Okay. How about 'Omar Sherif.' 'He' tried and failed as well. Happy now?

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Reply #23 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:15pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

ISIS are playing to a set of rules. Those rules are, 'there are no rules'.

Game on ISIS

Well....it is their 'Country' we have invaded and bombed we are playing in. I'd say they are entitled to repel us from their Lands anyway they bloody well like.

can you PUT a name to this country that ISIS OWN.??

you must be the only one that knows this information...

tell us" oh wise one".... he who has the answer to everything..

and what date did our invasion start???..

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Reply #24 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:25pm

cods wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

ISIS are playing to a set of rules. Those rules are, 'there are no rules'.

Game on ISIS

Well....it is their 'Country' we have invaded and bombed we are playing in. I'd say they are entitled to repel us from their Lands anyway they bloody well like.

can you PUT a name to this country that ISIS OWN.??

you must be the only one that knows this information...

tell us" oh wise one".... he who has the answer to everything..

and what date did our invasion start???..

Easy. The name is Arabia. It is the land of Arabs. And we have been invading it for centuries, going right back to Pope Urban II, and likely even before then. The most recent was this year in the Arabian suburb called Syria.

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Reply #25 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:33pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Oh I see. I should get all hairy chested because some towel head in the Land of Arabs says he is gonna come and get me in Australia and you in the mythical Land of Liberty (he only says that because I am over there shooting at him, as you are.)

Yankers like them are a dime a dozen, and yet they always sort it out themselves in their own (tribal) Lands, and if only we kept out of it, things would be a great deal better for us.

Would you rather wait until they have achieved their stated goals in being militarily ready to take on the West by sweeping through the Middle East and establishing a large state and capturing state of the art weaponry and then face them when they have those capabilities rather than prevent them from getting to that stage?

In one word.......yes.......and the chances of that happening are minuscule.

Quote:

It is foolish to underestimate the capabilities of your enemies based on your belief that they are inferior human beings.

I am basing my comments on the simple fact that they do not have the means to get anywhere near Australia, or America. They cannot even get into Turkey, their neighbour.

you wouldnt like to give the libs a little bit of praise for their work on stopping the boats and securing our borders... i suppose...

the last I heard the 15 year old who shot and killed Mr Curtis Cheng...as he was leaving work....to return to his family....

was brainwashed by people of terrorist persuasions...

that could of course been a taxi driver heading off to change his shift.....

since the shooting several members of the hate group have also been arrested and detained....along with many guns and god only knows what bomb material...

they do not need to come here..

they already are.......

thansk to the senate we have atleast 20 young men who chose to go to Syria and join ISIS could have even chopped off a head or two..

but they came back before

the new legislation to arrest them managed to get through the senate all watered down of course... Angry

I think we sent them up to Qld in fact I know we did.

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Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention
Reply #26 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:35pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:25pm:

cods wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:

[quote author=red_baron18 link=1451189304/4#4 date=1451191123]ISIS are playing to a set of rules. Those rules are, 'there are no rules'.

Game on ISIS

Well....it is their 'Country' we have invaded and bombed we are playing in. I'd say they are entitled to repel us from their Lands anyway they bloody well like.

can you PUT a name to this country that ISIS OWN.??

you must be the only one that knows this information...

tell us" oh wise one".... he who has the answer to everything..

and what date did our invasion start???..

Easy. The name is Arabia. It is the land of Arabs. And we have been invading it for centuries, going right back to Pope Urban II, and likely even before then. The most recent was this year in the Arabian suburb called Syria.
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I cant even pretend to have an answer to that...

incredible.. ferfuxsakes...numpty......FERFUXSAKES..

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Re: Should we ignore Geneva Convention
Reply #27 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:39pm

cods wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Oh I see. I should get all hairy chested because some towel head in the Land of Arabs says he is gonna come and get me in Australia and you in the mythical Land of Liberty (he only says that because I am over there shooting at him, as you are.)

Yankers like them are a dime a dozen, and yet they always sort it out themselves in their own (tribal) Lands, and if only we kept out of it, things would be a great deal better for us.

Would you rather wait until they have achieved their stated goals in being militarily ready to take on the West by sweeping through the Middle East and establishing a large state and capturing state of the art weaponry and then face them when they have those capabilities rather than prevent them from getting to that stage?

In one word.......yes.......and the chances of that happening are minuscule.

Quote:

It is foolish to underestimate the capabilities of your enemies based on your belief that they are inferior human beings.

I am basing my comments on the simple fact that they do not have the means to get anywhere near Australia, or America. They cannot even get into Turkey, their neighbour.

you wouldnt like to give the libs a little bit of praise for their work on stopping the boats and securing our borders... i suppose...

the last I heard the 15 year old who shot and killed Mr Curtis Cheng...as he was leaving work....to return to his family....

was brainwashed by people of terrorist persuasions...

that could of course been a taxi driver heading off to change his shift.....

since the shooting several members of the hate group have also been arrested and detained....along with many guns and god only knows what bomb material...

they do not need to come here..

they already are.......

thansk to the senate we have atleast 20 young men who chose to go to Syria and join ISIS could have even chopped off a head or two..

but they came back before

the new legislation to arrest them managed to get through the senate all watered down of course... Angry

I think we sent them up to Qld in fact I know we did.

Fairbloodydinkum, cods. You call that crap an invasion by Arabs, one capable of taking over Australia? Really?

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Reply #28 - Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:00am

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:14pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:

ALL muslim terrorists are ignoring the Geneva convention.

The Geneva convention has hamstrung allied forces in combating the enemy

The Geneva convention is costing Western lives

Should we suspend compliance to Geneva Convention and get rid of ISIS

Or do we risk more Western lives to take the moral high ground?

Exactly what part of the Convention are you referring to?

ISIS are deliberately putting civilians infront of prized targets. Bomb the sheeeet out of it regardless of who is infant of it

If 1 ISIS commander is foundling with 30 of his families - bomb the sheeeet out of the whole area

ISIS are taking advantage of us playing by rules we made up and they don't have to follow it

If reports are true they are harvesting organs from anyone they can get their hands on to save their own

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #29 - Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:02am

Lafayette wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:03pm:

I have already answered that with a very solid....'yes.' I have also made the observation that, given the centuries old tribal divisions in the Land of Arabs, the chance of that happening is minuscule. It's a risk I'm happy to take, and I regard the fact that we are over there interfering in their domestic as the very reason they fight back at us. Do you honestly believe that you can just waltz into Arabia, kill them, bomb their homes, destroy their Lands, and they just will sit back and cop it! If you do, you are an idiot, one very likely to go slaughter a few kids at a School with your open carry weapon, because you can.

I'm not suggesting we should kill any innocent people. I'm saying that ISIL has the ability to seize large swaths of territory, armaments and they are very good at what they do. If everyone stays out of this and leaves it just to the Arabs then ISIL will control the Middle East within 10 years.

so what do we do if they use human shields?

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Question: Should we ignore Geneva convention?
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