Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 1:35pm:



Not only but also:

Muslims with European passports are scrutinised by the US, Canada, Australia.
"Two days after the attacks in Paris, authorities at Melbourne airport refused entry to a French Arab man who tried to enter the country after flying from Abu Dhabi carrying extremist material and chemical mace."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/terror-checks-for-europeans-trav...

Religious profiling is a must.

I remember when after the Boston bombing some idiot in charge of Boston's airport gave the order that no racial profiling of suspected Muslims was to be exercised by the staff.

Political correctness was to be strictly adhered to in the search for possible terrorists amongst the incoming passengers.

That sort of person should be fired from the job and then given a Singapore whipping for knowingly endangering the lives of fellow-Americans and every one else.

I was working in Bankstown when the order came through to the police that they were no longer to stop-and-search people for hidden weapons on the basis of ethnicity and racial profiling.

This sort of abuse of commonsense and intelligent practice is why the West will never win the war on homeland terror. It hobbles the police and everyone else on the frontlne of trying to identify and apprehend society's enemies.

I remember at the time thinking that if the Arab community here in Australia and over there in Boston find it objectionable and unacceptable that they are a priority in the search for Muslim terrorists, then the only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that they are knowingly collaborating with the terrorists amongst them by having the security authorities banned from targetting people of their ethnic background.

If the vast majority of Muslim terrorists are red-headed Anglo-Saxon young men - then commonsense would have red-headed Anglo-Saxon young men pulled off the passenger lines for special attention at airports ... and it would be highly anti-social and uncooperative of red-headed Anglo-Saxons to petition the authorities to have this priority practice abandoned as a face-saver for their community.

These are your 'Moderate Muslims' who have objected to the practice of 'racial profiling' of passengers for the purpose of increasing the chance of discovering a terrorist.

This is where the plea that "We're Moderate Muslims and aren't given to extremist violence" shows itself to be utter bullshit in terms of helping the authorities be more effective in apprehending would-be terrorists.   

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

To stop people and search them on the street for no other reason than their race or religion constitutes unreasonable search and seizure here in the US. It's against the law to do it and we're protected from it by the 4th Amendment.

I'm so glad I live in a nation that is free as opposed to a nation of drones that don't know what liberty is like Australia.

I watched a report on the family barred from entering America to go to Disney Land. One member of the family was reportedly a member of various terrorism websites while the father is being monitored online by various security agencies. There's more to these stories. If you are on a list that the Americans have written up you are barred. There's no use whinging about it either.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

All completely irrelevant, stopping someone and searching them without any reasonable suspicion of a crime is unethical and infringes on their rights.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

Not all police are like that here at all. In fact, that type of behavior gets cases thrown out of court. It also gets police officers shot by people defending their rights.

Lafayette wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 1:51am:


Sorry, but you're way out of the Ball Park on this one.

We have Highway police here who randomly stop cars and stick a breathalyser tube in their mouths to check if they've been drinking too much or they're high on drugs.

Increasingly we have CCTV cameras in public places that spy on the public's activities.

All infringements of privacy.

And then just this year our police have been learning how to use those little drones that have cameras on them.

Stopping young Middle Eastern men to frisk them for knives is pretty much the same principle as stopping cars to ensure public safety.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

Yes, all of the actions you mentioned may ensure public safety. But by the same logic you are using we could lower crime even more by installing cameras and microphones in everyone's cars to make sure no one is engaged in or planning a crime

Same with mandatory breathalyzers in every car which you need to blow into to start and if you blow above the legal limit, it won't start so that we can prevent drunk driving.

We could probably install something on everyone's computer to catch people learning how to make bombs and looking up child pornography.

All of these steps would increase public safety.. Do you support them too?