Australian Politics Forum - USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding

Sun Tzu

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 1148
Gender: male

USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding
Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:18am

USA Muslim ostracism starting. How will this turn out?

The banning is being called "Trumped".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-ur...

Quote:

US bans Muslim family from Disneyland holiday - MP calls for David Cameron to intervene
A family of 11, from Walthamstow in north east London, had planned a holiday to Disneyland in California but were barred from entering

A Labour MP has called on the Prime Minister to challenge the US after officials refused to allow a Muslim family permission to board a flight to the country from Gatwick.
Stella Creasy has written to David Cameron urging him to press American authorities on what she says is a growing problem of British Muslims being barred from the US without explanation.
The family of 11 Walthamstow had planned a holiday to Disneyland in California Photo: Alamy
The family of 11, from Ms Creasy's Walthamstow constituency in north east London, had planned a holiday to Disneyland in California, saving thousands of pounds for the trip.
Stella Creasy Photo: Susannah Ireland/Eyevine
But as they went to board the Norwegian Airlines flight to Los Angeles from the Sussex airport on December 15 they were approached by officials from the US Department of Homeland Security, who told them their authorisation to travel had been cancelled.
The father, Mohammad Tariq Mahmood, said no reason was given as to why they could not board the flight, even though the family were allowed to under the Visa Waiver programme, which authorises travel to the US for up to 90 days without a visa.
Mohammad Tariq Mahmood was stopped at the gate of Gatwick airport Photo: SWNS
Mr Mahmood, who was travelling with his brother and nine of their children, told the Guardian he believed the reason was "because of the attacks on America - they think every Muslim poses a threat".
David Cameron Photo: AFP
Ms Creasy said she is concerned about increasing numbers of British Muslims being stopped from entering the US with no apparent reason.
Writing in the newspaper, she said she had "hit a brick wall" with getting an explanation from American authorities and so has asked Mr Cameron to intervene.
Ms Creasy said: "The vacuum created by a refusal to provide any context for these decisions is fuelling resentment and debate.

"Online and offline discussions reverberate with the growing fear that UK Muslims are being 'trumped' - that widespread condemnation of Donald Trump's call for no Muslim to be allowed into America contrasts with what is going on in practice."
"Now we should do more than shrug our shoulders at secretive American security policies that leave our constituents in such limbo"
Stella Creasy MP
She added: "Just a week ago, parliamentarians were united in agreement that Trump's views were abhorrent. Now we should do more than shrug our shoulders at secretive American security policies that leave our constituents in such limbo.
"If the embassy won't answer to the family's MP, it should answer to their prime minister and he to us about what he is doing to ensure that no British citizen is being discriminated against for their faith on our shores."
Downing Street said Mr Cameron would respond to the issues raised by Ms Creasy.

Back to top

Make my day

IP Logged

mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36383 Gender:	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #1 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:21am They've gone stark raving mad.
Back to top	If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning. IP Logged

AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #2 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:21am Muslim Family Day at Disneyland is a big deal in the Islamic world. Who knew?
Back to top	“Jerry, just remember: It’s not a lie … if you believe it.” George Costanza IP Logged

AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #3 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:23am A family of 11? That in itself is a red flag. Unless they are Mormons.
Back to top	“Jerry, just remember: It’s not a lie … if you believe it.” George Costanza IP Logged

innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #4 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:24am mothra wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:21am: They've gone stark raving mad. They may even make you their Queen
Back to top	IP Logged

AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #5 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:24am Was some member of the family on a “no-fly” list? We don't know. Don't you think they must have had a reason?
Back to top	“Jerry, just remember: It’s not a lie … if you believe it.” George Costanza IP Logged

mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36383 Gender:	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #6 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:29am AiA wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:23am: A family of 11? That in itself is a red flag. Unless they are Mormons. The article said two brothers and their children, so i expect there was two families worth of kids.
Back to top	If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning. IP Logged

mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36383 Gender:	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #7 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:30am AiA wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:24am: Was some member of the family on a “no-fly” list? We don't know. Don't you think they must have had a reason? If they were. they would not have qualified for the Visa Waiver program.
Back to top	If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning. IP Logged

AiA

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 18405
Gender: male

Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding
Reply #8 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:33am

mothra wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:30am:

AiA wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:24am:

Was some member of the family on a “no-fly” list? We don't know. Don't you think they must have had a reason?

If they were. they would not have qualified for the Visa Waiver program.

We don't know that. Neither the US or British governments have said a word. All I have read is speculation, most of it absurd, as if Donald Trump is suddenly directing US Homeland Security ...

Back to top

“Jerry, just remember: It’s not a lie … if you believe it.” George Costanza

IP Logged

Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #9 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:35am The US do not have a right to reject VISA applications and controlling who they want to come in?
Back to top	Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number IP Logged

AiA

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 18405
Gender: male

Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding
Reply #10 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 1:22am

Maqqa wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:35am:

The US do not have a right to reject VISA applications and controlling who they want to come in?

Every country does have the right to control the flow of visitors. Air travel is getting more difficult for all of us. I used to enjoy flying but not anymore - the security lines and checkpoints, having to take off my shoes, being asked about this and that in my backpack ... that is the price we will simply have to pay for a long, long time.

Back to top

“Jerry, just remember: It’s not a lie … if you believe it.” George Costanza

IP Logged

Sprintcyclist

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 41307
Gender: male

Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding
Reply #11 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 3:54am

AiA wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 1:22am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:35am:

The US do not have a right to reject VISA applications and controlling who they want to come in?

Every country does have the right to control the flow of visitors. Air travel is getting more difficult for all of us. I used to enjoy flying but not anymore - the security lines and checkpoints, having to take off my shoes, being asked about this and that in my backpack ... that is the price we will simply have to pay for a long, long time.

yes, muslims caused all that.

Back to top

Modern Classic Right Wing

IP Logged

Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41307 Gender:	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #12 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 3:56am I see a good reason to ban him and all his family. ...........Mohammad Tariq Mahmood............
Back to top	Modern Classic Right Wing IP Logged

Lafayette

Senior Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 316
Gender: male

Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding
Reply #13 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 6:05am

There's usually a little more to these situations behind the scenes that no one will talk about. I'm not saying that the government always gets it right, just look at the idiocy of the no fly list but there could have been something behind the refusal. It's hard because there is no appeal process.

Back to top

IP Logged

bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: USA prevents UK Muslim family from flight boarding Reply #14 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 6:40am Maybe the US immigration people ha e decided not to wait for the election and implement The Donald's policy now. Wouldn't that be good. PS what are the closet burqa wearers doing up this early?
Back to top	Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism. IP Logged