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At last - Robert Hughes goes down and out! (Read 9536 times)
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Reply #45 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:41pm
 
Neferti wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:56pm:
red baron wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:29pm:
Apparently he copped a serve of boiling water. Who knows what they do to his food.


Hughes deserves EVERYTHING he gets. Even Murderers hate paedophiles.


the murderers threw poop at him
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Reply #46 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:43pm
 
Kytro wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:03pm:
Neferti wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:56pm:
red baron wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:29pm:
Apparently he copped a serve of boiling water. Who knows what they do to his food.


Hughes deserves EVERYTHING he gets. Even Murderers hate paedophiles.


That isn't how our justice system is supposed to work.


Ask our resident EX-LAWYER (aussie) about schmedia and how that works,  Wink
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Reply #47 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:46pm
 
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A WEEPING Robert Hughes rang his wife rang celebrity agent wife Robyn Gardiner begging for help after jail inmates took justice into their own hands after he was sent to jail — throwing faeces and urine at the Hey Dad!


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Reply #48 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:49pm
 
BlueBeard wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:46pm:
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A WEEPING Robert Hughes rang his wife rang celebrity agent wife Robyn Gardiner begging for help after jail inmates took justice into their own hands after he was sent to jail — throwing faeces and urine at the Hey Dad!


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I dont  think this is aussie justice..

sorry you seem to enjoy it...and dont forget those doing the throwing are no better ....and would rob and bash your grandmother for $5..
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Reply #49 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:52pm
 
cods wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:49pm:
BlueBeard wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:46pm:
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A WEEPING Robert Hughes rang his wife rang celebrity agent wife Robyn Gardiner begging for help after jail inmates took justice into their own hands after he was sent to jail — throwing faeces and urine at the Hey Dad!


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I dont  think this is aussie justice..

sorry you seem to enjoy it...and dont forget those doing the throwing are no better ....and would rob and bash your grandmother for $5..
how do you know what the perpetrators were in jail for? Not all crims are robbers and bashers. yet another know nothing Cods post.
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Reply #50 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 7:09pm
 
ian wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:52pm:
cods wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:49pm:
BlueBeard wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:46pm:
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A WEEPING Robert Hughes rang his wife rang celebrity agent wife Robyn Gardiner begging for help after jail inmates took justice into their own hands after he was sent to jail — throwing faeces and urine at the Hey Dad!


Grin




I dont  think this is aussie justice..

sorry you seem to enjoy it...and dont forget those doing the throwing are no better ....and would rob and bash your grandmother for $5..
how do you know what the perpetrators were in jail for? Not all crims are robbers and bashers. yet another know nothing Cods post.


All were innocent closet poms?
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Reply #51 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 7:25pm
 
Neferti wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:28pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 4:59pm:
I don't care if my coined word has not taken off.  It has a meaning most people readily understand.

You are creepy Neferti, given your confessed stalking of me into the real world.


That comment is EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE, aussie. I should report you for ABUSE!

I have NEVER stalked you, aussie.  I post facts.  You post lies.

I read a LOT of online newspapers and the comments on the various items that the average Aussie comments upon. I have only seen your made up word SCHMEDIA  a few times. Sometimes the person who comments also uses the YEAS word.  Roll Eyes

This is "detective" work. Not stalking. If I am interested in certain newsworthy items, I will seek out ALL media to check. I will also check what the "public" comments are.

Retract your insults, please.




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Reply #52 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 7:26pm
 
Neferti wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:28pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 4:59pm:
I don't care if my coined word has not taken off.  It has a meaning most people readily understand.

You are creepy Neferti, given your confessed stalking of me into the real world.


That comment is EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE, aussie. I should report you for ABUSE!

I have NEVER stalked you, aussie.  I post facts.  You post lies.

I read a LOT of online newspapers and the comments on the various items that the average Aussie comments upon. I have only seen your made up word SCHMEDIA  a few times. Sometimes the person who comments also uses the YEAS word.  Roll Eyes

This is "detective" work. Not stalking. If I am interested in certain newsworthy items, I will seek out ALL media to check. I will also check what the "public" comments are.

Retract your insults, please.




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Reply #53 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 8:05am
 
BlueBeard wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:41pm:
Neferti wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:56pm:
red baron wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:29pm:
Apparently he copped a serve of boiling water. Who knows what they do to his food.


Hughes deserves EVERYTHING he gets. Even Murderers hate paedophiles.


the murderers threw poop at him



Im trying to work out how murderers want to claim a moral position...  I have no time for Hughes, but his victims get to live long and have successful lives.
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Reply #54 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 8:27am
 
ian wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:52pm:
how do you know what the perpetrators were in jail for?


They're certainly not there for being fine law-abiding citizens.

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Reply #55 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 8:31am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 8:27am:
ian wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:52pm:
how do you know what the perpetrators were in jail for?


They're certainly not there for being fine law-abiding citizens.



They are in many countries.. what makes you think Australia is any different?  We live in a country where the administration and focus of law is on repression, same as -say - Salvador - difference is we don't YET have armed gangs shooting people on suspicion.

Wait until the Guv starts rounding up the 'dissidents'.  Anyone now who objects to being 'rousted' by a cop is liable to be turned into a criminal and even imprisoned as a result.... as long as the policy of the courts (unwritten of course) is 'conviction on accusation', such things will continue to happen.

Next time you cop an unfair speeding fine and get the courts to settle it for you on the basis of your new fancy car's GPS and black box... and the court finds you guilty anyway... get back to me.

Such a case occurred within the last twelve months.
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Reply #56 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 9:28am
 
mariacostel wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 8:05am:
BlueBeard wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:41pm:
Neferti wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:56pm:
red baron wrote on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:29pm:
Apparently he copped a serve of boiling water. Who knows what they do to his food.


Hughes deserves EVERYTHING he gets. Even Murderers hate paedophiles.


the murderers threw poop at him



Im trying to work out how murderers want to claim a moral position...  I have no time for Hughes, but his victims get to live long and have successful lives.



so you know how their emotional lives are??? thats cool...

of course some commit suicide not Hughes victims maybe.. but victims none the less....

just because they didnt end up mental cases doesnt mean he didnt do any harm... or it was minimal....

if you have never been on the end of abuse of that nature.. how can you make such a claim???>...

its a terrible crime against a child...it is a crime that lives with them forever....as an adult you can brush off something and move on.. but when its in childhood.. it can cripple you for life...its a violation of your body....

and no one should have that right... NO ONE>
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Reply #57 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 9:30am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 8:31am:
Next time you cop an unfair speeding fine and get the courts to settle it for you on the basis of your new fancy car's GPS and black box... and the court finds you guilty anyway... get back to me.



this is not about SPEEDING TICKETS...


what on earth is wrong with you?...

cant you tell the difference between child sexual abuse

and a bloody speeding fine????? Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #58 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 9:53am
 
cods wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 9:30am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 8:31am:
Next time you cop an unfair speeding fine and get the courts to settle it for you on the basis of your new fancy car's GPS and black box... and the court finds you guilty anyway... get back to me.



this is not about SPEEDING TICKETS...


what on earth is wrong with you?...

cant you tell the difference between child sexual abuse

and a bloody speeding fine????? Angry Angry Angry


It's about the severe doubt that exists with our current courts and their handling of legal rights, though I fully expect that you have no idea of the concepts involved.

Traffic allegations are the root cause of some serious deficiencies in jurisprudence, since they are universally dealt with via 'guilt on accusation' and without solid proof in the very vast majority of cases.

This quite illegal handling of these 'minor' issues results in the lowest courts in the land adopting the attitude that any and all allegations can be rightly dealt with on the same basis, and this becomes a serious problem when the allegations involve criminal issues.

That is one clear reason why I advocate that the lowest courts in the land should not handle criminal matters at all.

You can add to that the handling of 'domestic violence orders', which require zero proof and are on the basis of ' a complainant feels' , i.e. 'guilt by accusation' -a situation that I warned the Law Reform Commission would result in an overall lowering of the standard of proof in those courts, for the simple reason that over-use of that 'standard' would lead to the loss of perspective on the part of 'magistrates'.  This was precisely one  reason for the introduction of these 'laws' as they are - to lower the standard applied in practice by 'magistrates' across the board through over-use of a lower (lack of) standard, and thus attack basic Legal Rights.

Again this is why I advocate that the lowest courts in the land should not handle these things, since as the first port of call for the extraordinary majority of cases, they MUST abide by the Rule of Law exclusively. To do otherwise is to bring down the Rule of Law.

Then there is the spectre that any finding on these flawed bases in those lower courts will result ONLY in an appeal to a higher court - in which one should expect a JUDGE to perform better than a 'magistrate' - being restricted to as few avenues of appeal as possible, and certainly without any consideration of any blatant flaws in the lower court.  Such flaws can only be addressed in the highest courts in the land, something beyond the financial capacity of most accused.

On top of that, I will add the following -  the undeniable reality that in the lowest courts in the land, there is a rush to judgement in favour of any complainant without reference in any real way to the Rights of the accused, leads to an overall lowering of the standard of proof and of the protection of those Rights in ALL courts, by a process of osmosis.  When any court is fully aware that the lowest courts in the land have a near 100% strike rate against the accused - how far is it a leap to suggest that they ALL assume that any accused is guilty - and in that category I include juries and not just judges.

How many times have you heard Joe Yobogan say:-  "He wouldn't be on trial if he wasn't guilty!"  Say you haven't, and I call you a liar.  Imagine Joe Yobogan sitting on a jury then.

THAT is why I advocate a Royal Commission into the Magistracy, the Judiciary and into Jurisprudence.


Thank you for raising this question in the House and allowing these very serious and very real issues to be aired properly for a change.

Is Robert Hughes guilty?  I have no idea - but I have doubts, the same as I have doubts about certain other persons accused many years after the events alleged.

And where there is doubt.... there can be no conviction, and certainly not on emotion.

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Reply #59 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 2:38pm
 
That is stretching a long bow mariacostel, how do you know for one second that his victims 'lead long and successful live' unquote. 

I have met many victims in my career as a Cop and many of them have had their lives shattered to the point; that their lives have been tragic and too easily linked back to the horrific event/s that changed the course of their lives forever.

Have you been raped maria? Have you been belted within an inch of you life? Have you been robbed at gunpoint? Then...you have no right whatsoever to make any judgement calls on how 'it works out for victims'.

Obviously you wouldn't know a sparrow's fart about the whole deal. Give you a tip, when you know f... all about something, like this important subject  for instance, wrap a band aid across your mouth. Lips Sealed
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