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Reply #165 - Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:13pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 6:00pm:

All that gobbledegook coming out of your mouth maria, time to reach for the serviette.

Hughes has been canned to serve out his sentence. Stop banging on about legalities, the show is over dumb, dumb.

yes exactly..

let the poo showers continue to rain down upon Hughes

its all he deserves

I do understand that within prisons, there is a system of (in)justice, but I reckon we (Society) have an obligation to protect all prisoners from it.

People are sent to prison as punishment....they have their freedom taken away, nothing more than that. They are still entitled to the protection of the Rule of Law, and if there is a prisoner being abused beyond his sentence of loss of freedom, then that prisoner needs protection, and must be given it. If that means the said prisoner has to be kept in more comfortable protective conditions than they would otherwise experience, said prisoner is not to blame......the blame lies with others.

The Judge's comments in this matter were appropriate, and I trust will be acted upon.

well..

not everyone thinks like that, in fact, most don't

no one gives a stuff if Hughes is showered in poop every single day of his incarceration

cept greggy and other defenders of injustice

now take a look at martin Bryant

a big fat 160kg jailbird bully bashing other prisoners and prison guards with paying off desperate jailbirds with chocolate bars for 'sexual" favours..

but hey, we must protect this piece of garbage that killed 35 people with 23 wounded

killing a mother and her child and also her 6 year old while trying to run away...

he killed 12 people in 15 seconds..

but hey..

what about Martin Bryant's rights?

get stuffed dickheads!! Angry

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Re: At last - Robert Hughes goes down and out!
Reply #167 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 5:26am

Aussie wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 7:18pm:

cods wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 7:10pm:

ian wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 4:24pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 3:26pm:

It seems that double jeopardy is not being removed, but simply having an 'exceptional circumstances' criteria. That I am happy with.

Still wrong. why dont you just read the Wikipedia article on it?

I always thought it only applied to murder... an new evidence...

anyway out of interest that link has a small side piece attached in blue criminal procedure...

and it lists the rights of the accused

but not the rights of the victim....

.just because the victim has been silenced.. why does that mean they have no rights???>.. Roll Eyes

What rights would you like victims to have, cods?

I would only bother to reply to that to someone who gives a sh!t about VICTIMS..

and you dont...

so I wont weaste my breath or my time..

.. what I say on here has not a thing to do with you I am doing my best not to reply to you ...

run and put that in your HATE THREAD...baby.

because I dont care....your comments dont interest me give me the same courtesy and I will do my best to ignore you... Angry

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Re: At last - Robert Hughes goes down and out!
Reply #168 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 6:17am

red baron wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 6:00pm:

All that gobbledegook coming out of your mouth maria, time to reach for the serviette.

Hughes has been canned to serve out his sentence. Stop banging on about legalities, the show is over dumb, dumb.

So that is your surrender speech? The acknowledgement that you dont know that much about law and the reason you are no longer a cop is that quite obviously you were a lousy one?

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Re: At last - Robert Hughes goes down and out!
Reply #169 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 6:20am

Aussie wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 6:00pm:

All that gobbledegook coming out of your mouth maria, time to reach for the serviette.

Hughes has been canned to serve out his sentence. Stop banging on about legalities, the show is over dumb, dumb.

yes exactly..

let the poo showers continue to rain down upon Hughes

its all he deserves

I do understand that within prisons, there is a system of (in)justice, but I reckon we (Society) have an obligation to protect all prisoners from it.

People are sent to prison as punishment....they have their freedom taken away, nothing more than that. They are still entitled to the protection of the Rule of Law, and if there is a prisoner being abused beyond his sentence of loss of freedom, then that prisoner needs protection, and must be given it. If that means the said prisoner has to be kept in more comfortable protective conditions than they would otherwise experience, said prisoner is not to blame......the blame lies with others.

The Judge's comments in this matter were appropriate, and I trust will be acted upon.

I would agree. The notion of extra-judicial punishment is unacceptable. I am however bemused that convicted murderers and other disgusting felons feel some kind of moral position to deliver 'rough justice'. The hypocrisy probably never occurs to them.

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Reply #170 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am

maria....When someone goes into prison, they are at the mercy of the system. You see murderers, thieves and other others have their own 'code' in prison. Those named are criminals but they are also parents.

There is a pecking order amongst the prisoners and at the bottom of the totem pole are 'rock spiders'. The name given to paedophiles and corrupters of children.

They are targeted, humiliated and given everything they can throw at them.

Now you being a learned academic, may not like this but 'that is the way it is', as Elvis used to say.

You go into prison as a 'rock spider' then you are going to get it in the neck.

No amount of legislation will change that.

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Re: At last - Robert Hughes goes down and out!
Reply #171 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:04am

cods wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 5:26am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 7:18pm:

cods wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 7:10pm:

ian wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 4:24pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 3:26pm:

It seems that double jeopardy is not being removed, but simply having an 'exceptional circumstances' criteria. That I am happy with.

Still wrong. why dont you just read the Wikipedia article on it?

I always thought it only applied to murder... an new evidence...

anyway out of interest that link has a small side piece attached in blue criminal procedure...

and it lists the rights of the accused

but not the rights of the victim....

.just because the victim has been silenced.. why does that mean they have no rights???>.. Roll Eyes

What rights would you like victims to have, cods?

I would only bother to reply to that to someone who gives a sh!t about VICTIMS..

and you dont...

so I wont weaste my breath or my time..

.. what I say on here has not a thing to do with you I am doing my best not to reply to you ...

run and put that in your HATE THREAD...baby.

because I dont care....your comments dont interest me give me the same courtesy and I will do my best to ignore you... Angry

I reckon you are not replying because you do not know. You have been calling for these rights....and that sounds terrific.....but you will not list them.

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Re: At last - Robert Hughes goes down and out!
Reply #172 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:42am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 6:20am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 6:00pm:

All that gobbledegook coming out of your mouth maria, time to reach for the serviette.

Hughes has been canned to serve out his sentence. Stop banging on about legalities, the show is over dumb, dumb.

yes exactly..

let the poo showers continue to rain down upon Hughes

its all he deserves

I do understand that within prisons, there is a system of (in)justice, but I reckon we (Society) have an obligation to protect all prisoners from it.

People are sent to prison as punishment....they have their freedom taken away, nothing more than that. They are still entitled to the protection of the Rule of Law, and if there is a prisoner being abused beyond his sentence of loss of freedom, then that prisoner needs protection, and must be given it. If that means the said prisoner has to be kept in more comfortable protective conditions than they would otherwise experience, said prisoner is not to blame......the blame lies with others.

The Judge's comments in this matter were appropriate, and I trust will be acted upon.

I would agree. The notion of extra-judicial punishment is unacceptable. I am however bemused that convicted murderers and other disgusting felons feel some kind of moral position to deliver 'rough justice'. The hypocrisy probably never occurs to them.

I put on my law and justice hat and totally agree. Take it off and I confess to not caring (in some cases).

Not saying I wish it upon the criminal, but if extra-judicial punishment is dished out, so be it. Sounds an ugly view, I realise. I remember it originating when the Anita Cobby killers were dispensed rough justice.

That said, I do somewhat struggle with my ambivalence......

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Re: At last - Robert Hughes goes down and out!
Reply #173 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 10:26am

red baron wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

maria....When someone goes into prison, they are at the mercy of the system. You see murderers, thieves and other others have their own 'code' in prison. Those named are criminals but they are also parents.

There is a pecking order amongst the prisoners and at the bottom of the totem pole are 'rock spiders'. The name given to paedophiles and corrupters of children.

They are targeted, humiliated and given everything they can throw at them.

Now you being a learned academic, may not like this but 'that is the way it is', as Elvis used to say.

You go into prison as a 'rock spider' then you are going to get it in the neck.

No amount of legislation will change that.

Then you don't let them mix

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Reply #174 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 10:37am

Kytro wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

red baron wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

maria....When someone goes into prison, they are at the mercy of the system. You see murderers, thieves and other others have their own 'code' in prison. Those named are criminals but they are also parents.

There is a pecking order amongst the prisoners and at the bottom of the totem pole are 'rock spiders'. The name given to paedophiles and corrupters of children.

They are targeted, humiliated and given everything they can throw at them.

Now you being a learned academic, may not like this but 'that is the way it is', as Elvis used to say.

You go into prison as a 'rock spider' then you are going to get it in the neck.

No amount of legislation will change that.

Then you don't let them mix

Exactly.

There's no need for legislation.

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Reply #175 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am

red baron wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

maria....When someone goes into prison, they are at the mercy of the system. You see murderers, thieves and other others have their own 'code' in prison. Those named are criminals but they are also parents.

There is a pecking order amongst the prisoners and at the bottom of the totem pole are 'rock spiders'. The name given to paedophiles and corrupters of children.

They are targeted, humiliated and given everything they can throw at them.

Now you being a learned academic, may not like this but 'that is the way it is', as Elvis used to say.

You go into prison as a 'rock spider' then you are going to get it in the neck.

No amount of legislation will change that.

You could at least criticise it, but you think it is okay.

What do you think happens to you as a former cop if you go to prison? The pedos with be throwing poop at YOU.

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Reply #176 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 10:46am

Alinta wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:42am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 6:20am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 6:00pm:

All that gobbledegook coming out of your mouth maria, time to reach for the serviette.

Hughes has been canned to serve out his sentence. Stop banging on about legalities, the show is over dumb, dumb.

yes exactly..

let the poo showers continue to rain down upon Hughes

its all he deserves

I do understand that within prisons, there is a system of (in)justice, but I reckon we (Society) have an obligation to protect all prisoners from it.

People are sent to prison as punishment....they have their freedom taken away, nothing more than that. They are still entitled to the protection of the Rule of Law, and if there is a prisoner being abused beyond his sentence of loss of freedom, then that prisoner needs protection, and must be given it. If that means the said prisoner has to be kept in more comfortable protective conditions than they would otherwise experience, said prisoner is not to blame......the blame lies with others.

The Judge's comments in this matter were appropriate, and I trust will be acted upon.

I would agree. The notion of extra-judicial punishment is unacceptable. I am however bemused that convicted murderers and other disgusting felons feel some kind of moral position to deliver 'rough justice'. The hypocrisy probably never occurs to them.

I put on my law and justice hat and totally agree. Take it off and I confess to not caring (in some cases).

Not saying I wish it upon the criminal, but if extra-judicial punishment is dished out, so be it. Sounds an ugly view, I realise. I remember it originating when the Anita Cobby killers were dispensed rough justice.

That said, I do somewhat struggle with my ambivalence......

Did you know the Anita Cobby killers were unequivocally forgiven by the parents? Now that is the kind of forgiveness we dont see often.

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Reply #177 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 11:15am

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All her life, Grace said she didn't believe in capital punishment because she wanted these men to serve their sentences. ''I can't forgive them for what they did,'' she said to me. ''I have forgiven their souls. They don't have to answer to me but they need to live with themselves and one day they have to answer to God for what they have done.''

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/quiet-strength-nursed-reform-for-victims-20130705-2phc...

That's not exactly "unequivocally" forgiving them in my mind.

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Reply #178 - Dec 24^th, 2015 at 12:25pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 6:00pm:

All that gobbledegook coming out of your mouth maria, time to reach for the serviette.

Hughes has been canned to serve out his sentence. Stop banging on about legalities, the show is over dumb, dumb.

yes exactly..

let the poo showers continue to rain down upon Hughes

its all he deserves

I do understand that within prisons, there is a system of (in)justice, but I reckon we (Society) have an obligation to protect all prisoners from it.

People are sent to prison as punishment....they have their freedom taken away, nothing more than that. They are still entitled to the protection of the Rule of Law, and if there is a prisoner being abused beyond his sentence of loss of freedom, then that prisoner needs protection, and must be given it. If that means the said prisoner has to be kept in more comfortable protective conditions than they would otherwise experience, said prisoner is not to blame......the blame lies with others.

The Judge's comments in this matter were appropriate, and I trust will be acted upon.

I agree.

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Reply #179 - Dec 26^th, 2015 at 2:44pm

maria I won't be going to prison, not now, not ever because even as a former Cop, I uphold the laws of the land, not abuse them!

PS The prison system is full to overflowing with the Criminal population.

It is fanciful to think that the authorities can have all the 'rock spiders' segregated from the rest of the general Prison population. Logistically, it is impossible with the resources that they have.

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