How come much of climate change evidence actually relates to deforestation, salinity,  water pollution and air pollution? Don't get me wrong; I reckon they're the real threats to mother Earth (along with overpopulation-another argument for another day).
-the good ole boys

I think over-population is THE main threat to mother earth.

Everything follows from that.

bump

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 2:10am:


If you're talking about natural disasters I think the Earth has always had them all you need do is look into history.

If you're talking about the islands of plastic in our oceans lets clean them up I'm all for that, deforestation or our polluted rivers or insecticides or air pollution lets clean all this up I agree with you 100%.

But all of the above would barely contribute to global warming the current warming is mostly natural the Earth's temperature fluctuates up and down as history shows there is no way humans can make the Earth's temperature flat line.

Do you agree with the New World Order then....????

That the Earth's population should never exceed 500 million people.

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tackle the distortion in distribution and access to resources first

Overpopulation is used to justify the greed and waste based lifestyles of the elite and specific nations.

The USA consumes 1/3 of the worlds resources, produces about 30% of the worlds waste and pollution and yet it only makes up about 5% of the total global human population.

We could have a world comprising of about 1 billion US citizens and the effect on the environment and resource base would be the same as about 7 billion Chinese or 39 billion Inuit Indigenous people or 27 billion Mauritians.

So the fear mongers on over population always seem to come from the nations who are doing the most damage with their decadent and wasteful communities and individualistic/materialistic lifestyles.

they need to apologise

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 11:33pm:


'In the Pacific Ocean, four ocean currents merge to form the North Pacific gyre, also known as the North Pacific Subtropical High, which spans the western US to Japan, and Hawaii to California. This enormous rotating vortex has collected floating garbage from across the Pacific, but much of the debris can typically be found in the calm center of this rotating area, often referred to as the "eastern Pacific garbage patch." Keep in mind, however, that this is no island or blanket of trash that can be seen with satellite or aerial photographs—most of the floating trash is tiny pieces of plastic, many of them so small as to be invisible to the human eye.'

http://ocean.si.edu/ocean-news/ocean-trash-plaguing-our-sea

From the Smithsonian Institute.

And then of course they break down further. All those bits of carbon compound sequestered in the deep ocean.

'First, the name “garbage patch” is a misnomer. There is no island of trash forming in the middle of the ocean, and it cannot be seen with satellite or aerial photographs. While it’s true that these areas have a higher concentration of plastic than other parts of the ocean, much of the debris found in these areas are small bits of plastic (microplastics) that are suspended throughout the water column.  A comparison I like to use is that the debris is more like flecks of pepper floating throughout a bowl of soup, rather than a skim of fat that accumulates (or sits) on the surface.'

https://marinedebrisblog.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/garbage-patches-what-we-really...

From NOAA


One of the images used to visualise the Great Garbage Patch.

But the caption reads:

Caption:An aerial view of damage to Wakuya, Japan after a 9.0 magnitude earthquake and subsequent tsunami devastated the area in northern Japan. Ships and aircraft from the Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group are conducting search and rescue operations and re-supply missions as directed in support of Operation Tomodachi throughout northern Japan.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RuyzzkR5--/c_scale,fl_progre...

' You've probably heard of the "Pacific garbage patch," also called the "trash vortex." It's a region of the North Pacific ocean where the northern jet stream and the southern trade winds, moving opposite directions, create a vast, gently circling region of water called the North Pacific Gyre — and at its center, there are tons of plastic garbage. You may even have seen this picture of the garbage patch, above — right? Wrong.

That image, widely mislabeled as a shot of the Pacific garbage patch, is actually from Manila harbor. '
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5911969/lies-youve-been-told-about-the-pacific-garbage-pa...

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 10:41am:

ay ??? 

Emma wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 12:50am:

No, because the climate is being affected by the rich- not the overpopulated!

Emma wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 8:05pm:



Well the photo of Manila harbour clearly belongs to the Philiipines, so they should clean that up.

The other that I couldn't get to display was in Japan after an earhquake, so it is the Japanese to clean up.

As for the microplastics - do you trawl with micro-filters? What happens to the by-catch?