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Was Islam spread by the Sword (Read 13272 times)
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Re: Was Islam spread by the Sword
Reply #225 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 9:33am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 9:07am:

Jesus in Revelation, and, in the Gospels, said that he hated those hypocrites, who use the authority of 'religion' [turning religion into a 'beastly', false, worldly 'spirituality'], so as to rule over men.

Almost every religion of man does this.

Some religions [more than others] going to extreme lengths, to exert their authority over their adherents/devotees.






John 12:42
Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:
43  For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.


Matthew 23:11
 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12  And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13  But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.



John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.



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Dwight L. Moody (American Evangelist, 1837-1899)


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Was Islam spread by the Sword
Reply #226 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 9:41am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 9:33am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 7:19am:
Because, after all, the motivation for religious proselytisation and 'advancing' political ideology owes more to the accumulation of power and hegemony than to religious or secular 'righteousness'.


Exactly!

.......what you said.

You make my point.

Christianity today is a soulless, worldly entity.

And Christianity today, is in no way reflective of the character of its founder [imo].

Then we'd both agree with Bill Maher's characterisation of the modern 'supply-side' Jesus...


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Re: Was Islam spread by the Sword
Reply #227 - Jan 24th, 2016 at 9:54am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 1:20am:
Soren wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 8:30pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:55pm:
Grin

Stop laughing, this is serious.

You area a Muslim - how do YOU tell the difference between the jihadi monsters and the peaceful assimilationist Muslims in Australia?


You are a Muslim, tell us.

And if you can't - why shouldn't we bar the lot untul we figure out how to tell the difference?


Being a muslim doesn't make me an expert in counter-terrorism and such things. You're talking about security and immigration screening.

Yes there is a risk, but it seems a bit overblown to me. I'm guessing we have let in a hell of a lot more murderers and rapist non-muslims than we've let in actual terrorists.

It makes no sense to get hung up on the risks of letting in one particular type of migrant, when they are clearly not the extent of the risk - nor even the worst of the threat.
Any immigration policy has a virtually infinite number of inherent risks associated with it.  But you accept those risks because we accept that immigration is a net benefit for the nation.



Muslims are the only migrant group in the West who say they want to change the societies they are migrating to on the basis of Islam, some of the violently.
There is no telling them apart from the Muslims who do not want to change the West. So until we can tell the diff, we should halt their mass migration to the West.
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