I will say this about Gerard Baden-Clay. He is not a mental giant but have you ever heard the saying, someone is, 'as clever as a sh.thouse rat?'

That sums up my profile of Gerard, he is rat cunning but he leaves gaps here and there because he is no evil genius. But he has been clever where he needed to be clever but not clever enough.

He has had a big ally in the Crown Prosecutor who should be sued for negligence for his stupidity in not bringing in Alison's Insurance policy as the main motivator for him killing Alison.

Because Cods....he was in desperate money trouble and he needed Alison's insce money all $967,000 of it. There was no love lost between them at the end. They had gone to counselling but Gerard was a serial offender.

Think the wick would have been very short in that house.

Don't know how many times as a Cop I met people who were pillars of the Community but as soon as you started digging you found the fires of hell burning just beneath that oh so calm exterior they showed the world.

PS I tried to contact you on your PM but I am having trouble with the 'recipient' box on messages

red baron wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 12:19pm:


And how about you give credit where it is due, Mr Baron?

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red baron wrote on Jan 17^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:


Just a citation.

It's what most honest people do.

red baron wrote on Jan 17^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:


Plagiarism is not a minor matter.  It is not a 'fine point' to expose it when it occurs.

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No, you did not make it up at all.  You copied what someone else posted elsewhere, word for word, and posted those words as your own.

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You are wrong to post the exact words of others without due acknowledgement.

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Yeas, we all now know that is exactly what you did.

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I'll take your word for that, as I have nothing to the contrary.

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I can tell you that it accords with the view of that bloke whose words you posted here as your own.  However, what he said is confirmed at other sources.

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Challenge accepted and responded to.

This is an extract from the Sunshine Coast Daily 16 June 2014:

Tuesday.

Gerard Baden-Clay as "calm as a cucumber" after wife went missing

THE mother of Allison Baden-Clay has described her son-in-law's demeanour as being as "calm as a cucumber" the morning he reported her daughter missing.

Her son-in-law, Gerard Baden-Clay, 43, has been charged with her daughter's murder.

Priscilla Dickie told the Brisbane Supreme Court on Monday she could not believe how Mr Baden-Clay was acting the morning she arrived at their Brookfield home after learning her daughter was missing.

She told the court of the moment on April 20, 2012, when she learnt her daughter was missing.

"We got the phone call about 9.45am and Gerard said Al was missing," she said.

"We dropped everything and went to their house at Brookfield.

"There were a lot of people there when we arrived."

Mrs Dickie told the court she could not believe how Mr Baden-Clay was acting on that morning.

"He was wearing a pink stripped shirt and tie," she said.

"He was as calm as a cucumber.

"He told me he did not know where she had walked to."

Mrs Dickie said she asked Mr Baden-Clay about the scratches she noticed on the right-hand side of his face.

She told the court she did not believe his explanation.

"I asked him what happened there," she said.

"He told me he had cut himself shaving."

Mrs Dickie told the court her daughter had suffered from post-natal depression after the birth of her first daughter in 2011.

She said in late 2011 she rang her daughter at the request of Allison's best friend Kerry-Anne Walker.

"(Allison) told us that Gerard no longer loved her," she said.

"I urged her to come and live with us on the Gold Coast.

"She said no way. She would never leave those girls."

Father of Gerard Baden-Clay arranged death cover

NIGEL Baden-Clay told his son's murder trial how he was the one who set up a life insurance policy for his daughter-in-law - the person his son is accused of murdering.

Mr Baden-Clay Snr told the Brisbane Supreme Court on Monday he was the one who organised the paperwork for his son to sign after his daughter-in-law's body was located, 10 days after she was reported missing.

His son, Gerard Baden-Clay, 43, has pleaded not guilty to murdering his wife and mother of his three children Allison Baden-Clay in April, 2012.

Nigel Baden-Clay told the court he became "alarmed" when he learnt a steady stream of police and homicide detectives had arrived at his son's Brookfield home in the hours after he had reported his wife missing on April 20, 2012.

He said his daughter, Olivia Walton had alerted him to the growing police presence.

"I found that alarming news and I immediately telephoned my son and said 'it is probably time you had a lawyer, would you like me to organise that for you?" Mr Baden-Clay Snr said.

He told the court his son replied "yes please" and then he organised legal representation after receiving advice from two friends.

Earlier, Baden-Clay Snr told the court had been an insurance planner and financial planner since 1980.

He said he had organised Allison's insurance policy after the couple had returned from their honeymoon.

"It was a pure life and crisis or trauma insurance," he said.

"The trauma related to the possibility of having some traumatic event or crisis event such as cancer or heart conditions.

"In addition to that there was a significant amount of death cover."

Mr Baden-Clay Snr told the court of the moment he learnt Allison's body had been located.

"The police came to Gerard's office, I happened to be in Gerard's office at the time, and the police came to Gerard's office to tell him," he said.

"But we had actually heard before that because it was actually on the internet before the police got to his office.

"We were aware a body had been found under the Kohlo Creek Bridge."

Mr Baden-Clay Snr said he contacted the insurance company to notify them Allison's body had been recovered, but could not recall how long after the recovery of the body this occurred.

He told the court the "paperwork" was done towards the end of May, 2012.

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COMMENT from Red: Do you find the description of Gerard Baden-Clay interesting in this article. He is described as being 'Cool as a cucumber'. dressed immaculately. Is this the description of a man whose wife has gone missing in mysterious circumstances. Or is this the description of how a Sociopath could pull this off.

Also you will note the detail of how the Insurance Policy for $967,000 in Alison's name, came into being and how Gerard Baden-Clay was instrumental in it's creation. He would have had to have known what was in it to the last cent.

It is on record that Gerard rang the Insurance Company but they didn't discuss the Policy with him because he wasn't the holder. It would be reasonable to assume the Gerard wanted to ensure that the payments were up to date so in the event of Alison's death the Company would be liable.

Your last post, spoken like as true Lawyer. It was an oversight not to mention my source. If you go back over my thousands of posts in the past, I invariably nominate where the information came from.

Reality check Aussie, you know that those words have the ring of truth attached to them and every little bit of quicksand than erodes your ludicrous position on the outcome of this case nettles you.

Brick by brick the pathetic result the three wise monkeys pedalled out is being eroded but do I expect the position to be changed by the High Court?

No I don't because the reputation of the Queensland Judiciary is on the line. I expect the High Court to back them and I will be amazed if the High Court reverses the status quo.

Will that be Justice? Not on your bloody life!