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sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 10:28am: ____ wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 9:50am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 9:37am: ____ wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 9:34am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 9:23am: ____ wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 9:20am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 9:12am: ____ wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 9:08am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 9:06am: ____ wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 9:03am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 8:58am: ____ wrote on Dec 7 th, 2015 at 8:50am: The biggest change comes when influencing one's own behaviours, not someone else's.
By always reflecting on the other side's behaviour as justifying Israel's behaviour is just a crutch and a way of avoiding change.
As far as Australia being the most productive and best of friends to both Israel and Palestine is for both the coalition and the alp to stop their sycophantic support of Israel and speaking honestly with and about Israel (and Palestine).
This is why Greens are closer friends with both Israel and Palestine. Your argument is too academic and not realistic. In order to have any hope of resolving the conflict we need to look at what is the biggest conflict area. I'd say it's Hamas. End support for a terrorist organisation and maybe they'll be hope for a proper 2 state solution, that removes illegal settlements. But while terrorism continues to exists AND be allowed to control the area, realism tells us there will be no movement to peace. The greens need realism. That's what you constantly lack! Once again, you deflect from Israeli actions by pointing out behaviour of Palestine. This cycle has not worked and will not work. This is not the actions of a friend of Israel. All you are promoting is the rise of terrorism for Islamic State against Israel. Actually, id say any officially recognised territory being run by a terrorist organisation would have IS flooding in. That's what the greens are doing with their support for Hamas. Like I said, I concentrating on any roadmap to a solution. You're concentrating on fluff, and in doing so are supporting a terrorist organisation. Be realistic. Hamas and IS are diametrically opposed. Who do you think Israel has the best hope of living side by side, in longterm peace with Hamas or Islamic State? I'd say their best bet would be to live next to a neighbour who's government recognised israels right to exist and doesn't have as part of their constitution to destroy Israel and kill all Jewish people. And your claim that Hamas is the better of 2 evils is bullsh1t given they aren't actually providing any stability to the area because they themselves are a TERRORIST ORGANISATION. The choice is real and it's either negotiating a peace deal with the Palestinian Authority or war with Islamic State. And if labor and the coalition were friends with Israel, they would constantly remind Israel that Israel's current actions are promoting the eventual war with IS. This could end with the complete destruction of Israel. How is this a good outcome? so the greens are demanding Israel pick either terrorist a or terrorist b. Ok, great policy greens! It's the world we live in. How much does Israel desire longterm peace How much do Labor and the Coalition desire longterm peace for Israel and Palestine? Rather than pointing out particular actions, it's time for Australia to speak on all illegal activities of both sides, without exception. Then Australia will be a good friend of both Israel and Palestine. Australia will only be a good friend to both once Hamas is removed. The only way to long term peace is to not negotiate with terrorists. I can't believe you actually just advocated picking a terrorist group. Wow. Demonstrates the greens mentality entirely. I'm done. Best way to counter Hamas is by removing it's relevance through real peace aimed actions and negotiations. Then either Hamas will have to adapt or be replaced with more relevant political representatives. If Australia where a good friend of Israel, the old parties would follow Greens lead. Aha, come back when you reenter the real world. So the greens must believe the best way to deal with IS is to offer peace, give them some milk and cookies, and then do a peace dance, smoke a peace pipe, and expect them to become relevant in the world??? This is why the greens do not represent the real left. As I have stated before, the best way to counter IS is for Australia to fine tune our own behaviour. By diversifying from fossil fuel so to end our funding of IS via Saudi oil. By countering the propaganda of Wahhabism by not supply funding (via saudi oil) and via promoting free education so recruitment is more difficult for IS. etc etc. We know that the current path of Israel is not geared to a peaceful two state solution. We know by the coalition and labor being sycophantic in their approach to Israel. Australia while in the control of liberal or labor, isn't an agent of change, is an enabler of Israel's path to it's own destruction. Labor and the coalition are no friends of Israel.
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