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Reply #15 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:15am

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____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:50am:

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I see here is another antisemitic thread from the greens. Typical terrorist apologists.

Perhaps you could explain antisemitic ... and then explain how this thread is antisemitic.

I don't need to explain anything to obvious terrorist apologists like the greens. "They are only sending missiles in self defence. Terrorists who demand the destruction of Israel in their own manifesto should be given a state. Protagonism shielded as a defence strategy is okay by us". Pathetic antisemitic, terrorist apologist greens.

So you are shooting blanks with your lazy antisemitic claim.
Thanks for clearing that up.

Come back when the greens stop apologising for Hamas atrocities and agenda.

No one has apologised for Hamas.

I's time for you to stop hiding behind Hamas so to try and shield Israel and her illegal activities.

Israel has hard right policies so in part designed to provoke violence against Israel.
Labor sycophantic approach towards Israel is not the actions of a friend of Israel.

A friend of Israel would warn Israel that the current path it's following will ultimately end up in the destruction of the State of Israel.

Greens are better friends of Israel because the Greens don't agree with the hard right politics that labor supports.

The only reason that Israel has a right wing government is because the last time they tried a diplomatic approach it ended with Palestinians protesting in masses and doing suicide bombings on buses, thanks to the Hamas organising.

The more Hamas exists, denies Israelis right to exist, teaches children to kill Jewish people, continues to send missiles, the more the Israeli people will vote for a right wing government who can use this for their agenda.
If the greens had any brains they would call for the abolition of Hamas as a ruling party, and see politics play out in an actual advanced democratic country. By constantly apologising for Hamas actions, as the greens do, they serve only to continue this mess. But then that's what happens when the greens are constantly with the fairies.

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Reply #16 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:17am

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What the greens terrorist apologists support.

Hiding behind Hamas so to ignore the illegal activities of Israel.

Why are you scared of discussing Israel's illegal and hard right policies ... the same illegal and hard right policies Labor supports?

I'm not scared, I'm pointing out that ignoring the cause will do nothing. By supporting a terrorist organisation, the greens only prolong right wing politics in Israel. What a party of apologists!

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel Reply #18 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:21am Netanyahu’s racist call to right-wingers on Election Day to go and vote because “droves of Arabs” were descending on the polling booths ... This is how the hard right won the latest election ... by connecting with rightwing racists and getting them to vote. These are the tactics Labor are backing to the hilt.
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Reply #19 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:23am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:17am:

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:10am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:03am:

What the greens terrorist apologists support.

Hiding behind Hamas so to ignore the illegal activities of Israel.

Why are you scared of discussing Israel's illegal and hard right policies ... the same illegal and hard right policies Labor supports?

I'm not scared, I'm pointing out that ignoring the cause will do nothing. By supporting a terrorist organisation, the greens only prolong right wing politics in Israel. What a party of apologists!

Israel's illegal housing /land grab, are these activities fuelling violence.
Could there be possibly faults on both sides?

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Reply #20 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:23am

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:15am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:09am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:47am:

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:44am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

I see here is another antisemitic thread from the greens. Typical terrorist apologists.

Perhaps you could explain antisemitic ... and then explain how this thread is antisemitic.

I don't need to explain anything to obvious terrorist apologists like the greens. "They are only sending missiles in self defence. Terrorists who demand the destruction of Israel in their own manifesto should be given a state. Protagonism shielded as a defence strategy is okay by us". Pathetic antisemitic, terrorist apologist greens.

Exactly. The Greens have long been anti-semitic and greens_win only underlines the point on a regular basis.

The only path of defending Israel's illegal activities is to call the other side names.

Because a frank discussion of Israel's hard right and illegal policies are indefensible.

I dare any of the Israeli apologists to have a debate on Israel's policies without name calling and deflection onto Palestinians.

If you are real friends of Israel, you will take up the challenge.

Israeli actions falls within its domestic laws and while its behaviour during wars may be questionable because of proportionality, good luck proving illegality.

On the other hand, how noticeable it is that you completely ignore the fact that Hamas uses residential areas for war, an act in itself illegal. Or claims defensive measures trough protagonist approaches. And of course let's not forget their encouragement for people to put on suicide vests. But hey, that's okay because how dare Israeli people democratically elect a government as a result of politics that has been poisoned as a result of terrorist activity at israels borders. Let's not concentrate on the cause, let's just lecture from the side lines to the only party that can actually ensure a democratic end to this conflict. Typical terrorist apologist greens.

The only way the Israeli people will ever elect a government ready for a diplomatic approach is to rid Palestinian regions of terrorists to deny israels right to exist, and use people as bombs.

But the greens are too dumb to recognise that.

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Reply #21 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:25am

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:23am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:17am:

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:10am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:03am:

What the greens terrorist apologists support.

Hiding behind Hamas so to ignore the illegal activities of Israel.

Why are you scared of discussing Israel's illegal and hard right policies ... the same illegal and hard right policies Labor supports?

I'm not scared, I'm pointing out that ignoring the cause will do nothing. By supporting a terrorist organisation, the greens only prolong right wing politics in Israel. What a party of apologists!

Israel's illegal housing /land grab, are these activities fuelling violence.
Could there be possibly faults on both sides?

One wishes to destroy Israel and refuses its right to exist.
The other builds settlement on "disputed" Land. And was happy to end it until the other party decided to protest and do suicide bombings.

Yep. I know which one is at fault.

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Reply #22 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:26am

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:21am:

Netanyahu’s racist call to right-wingers on Election Day to go and vote because “droves of Arabs” were descending on the polling booths ...

This is how the hard right won the latest election ... by connecting with rightwing racists and getting them to vote.

These are the tactics Labor are backing to the hilt.

And what has stemmed all this? Of course, it wouldn't be that the nearest neighbour teaches its children to kill you and denies your right to exist.

The greens need to wake up and recognise who's bed they are sleeping in.

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Reply #23 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:30am

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Israeli actions falls within its domestic laws

Kerry censures Israel for illegal settlement activity

US Secretary of State John Kerry has criticized Israel over its illegal settlement activities in the Palestinian occupied territories, calling the settlements an obstacle to a two-state solution.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/12/06/440507/-John-Kerry-illegal-settlements

How can you pretend this is not a major impediment to peace.

How can Labor also ignore this and pretend it's not occurring.
How can anyone trust Labor on foreign policy when they choose to be so blind.

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Reply #24 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:33am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:26am:

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:21am:

Netanyahu’s racist call to right-wingers on Election Day to go and vote because “droves of Arabs” were descending on the polling booths ...

This is how the hard right won the latest election ... by connecting with rightwing racists and getting them to vote.

These are the tactics Labor are backing to the hilt.

And what has stemmed all this? Of course, it wouldn't be that the nearest neighbour teaches its children to kill you and denies your right to exist.

The greens need to wake up and recognise who's bed they are sleeping in.

400 Palestinian children languish in Israel prisons

At least 700 Palestinian children between the ages of 11 and 17 have been arrested by the Israeli army this year, with more than half still languishing in Israeli prisons.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/166588/400-palestinian-children-languish-in-is...

There are faults on both sides ... and by pretending it's all one sides fault is not the action of a friend of Israel.

Labor should be ashamed of their sycophantic approach.

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Reply #25 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:35am

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:30am:

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Israeli actions falls within its domestic laws

Kerry censures Israel for illegal settlement activity

US Secretary of State John Kerry has criticized Israel over its illegal settlement activities in the Palestinian occupied territories, calling the settlements an obstacle to a two-state solution.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/12/06/440507/-John-Kerry-illegal-settlements

How can you pretend this is not a major impediment to peace.

How can Labor also ignore this and pretend it's not occurring.
How can anyone trust Labor on foreign policy when they choose to be so blind.

I'm not pretending it's not occurring. I'm simply making the point that it isn't the first obstacle that needs to be tackled. Fact is that while Hamas continues to encourage violence against Israeli people, the Israeli people will continue to elect right wing governments. History has shown us this. The only way to a 2 state solution is to ensure the Palestinian state does not have a terrorist group as its government.

But you continue to ignore Hamas. Like the greens always do. Apologists.

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Reply #26 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:37am

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:33am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:26am:

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:21am:

Netanyahu’s racist call to right-wingers on Election Day to go and vote because “droves of Arabs” were descending on the polling booths ...

This is how the hard right won the latest election ... by connecting with rightwing racists and getting them to vote.

These are the tactics Labor are backing to the hilt.

And what has stemmed all this? Of course, it wouldn't be that the nearest neighbour teaches its children to kill you and denies your right to exist.

The greens need to wake up and recognise who's bed they are sleeping in.

400 Palestinian children languish in Israel prisons

At least 700 Palestinian children between the ages of 11 and 17 have been arrested by the Israeli army this year, with more than half still languishing in Israeli prisons.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/166588/400-palestinian-children-languish-in-is...

There are faults on both sides ... and by pretending it's all one sides fault is not the action of a friend of Israel.

Labor should be ashamed of their sycophantic approach.

Well, no wonder Israel sees children as a threat to national security when Hamas teaches young children to kill Jews! "Hi I'm Mickey Mouse. Go Kill Jews!"

Amazing that you would even bring this up! It's clear the only solution can begin with eradicating Hamas. There is absolutely no other way. Stop supporting them!

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Reply #27 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:41am

Have the greens ever put their support for a Palestinian state on the basis that Hamas is not legitimised?
Of course not! They are too busy waving feel good flags and being apologists for a terror organisation that teaches young children to kill and which uses schools and hospitals as targets, and who encourages people to put on suicide vests.

The greens hatred for Jewish people is clear.

Palestinians start suicide bombs in Israeli territory and Israeli people elect a extreme far right wing government to end the violence. Greens say it's israels fault.

Hamas teaches children to kill Jews and subsequently Israeli military detains Palestinian children. Greens response? It's israels fault!

Apologists!!!

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Reply #28 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:47am

It is up to the people of Israel who they elect as their Government which takes nothing away from their right to exist....When the Palestinian people elected a terrorist group to form their Government they ensured the conflict would never be resolved....By supporting Hamas the Greens are aligning themselves with a terrorist organisation....Good on the ALP and LNP for supporting Israel and rejecting Hamas....There will never be peace whilst parties like the Greens support terrorists!!!

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Reply #29 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:50am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:47am:

It is up to the people of Israel who they elect as their Government which takes nothing away from their right to exist....When the Palestinian people elected a terrorist group to form their Government they ensured the conflict would never be resolved....By supporting Hamas the Greens are aligning themselves with a terrorist organisation....Good on the ALP and LNP for supporting Israel and rejecting Hamas....There will never be peace whilst parties like the Greens support terrorists!!!

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Hear hear! +50000

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Question: Does green-antisemite accept Israel's right to exist?
No 3 (50.0%) Of course not! 2 (33.3%) Maybe - just not where it is now 0 (0.0%) Only if Hamas agrees 0 (0.0%) Yes 1 (16.7%) Total votes: 6 « Created by: mariacostel on: Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:43pm »