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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #135 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:23pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 11:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:33am:

I really do not care one iota what you THINK,

Palestine as a country does NOT EXIST.

IN fact, it has never existed.

There has never ever in all of history been a country called Palestine.

Palestine is the REGION encompassing israel and some of the lands around it. The supposed 'recognition' is nothing more than a statement supporting a concept or a wish or whatever.

Let me ask what you would think of the UN recognising the Aboriginal Nation. Would you not immediately say that it does not exist and in fact, never has?

For the first part Palestine has been mentioned in many ancient texts

and the fact the USA and Australia will recognise Palestine along with the other 135 nations once it has reached an accord with Israel makes your claim absurd....Aboriginal people were granted native title because they are considered the first custodians of the land....Your whole argument is complete bullshit as usual???

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-vatican-recognizes-palestine-as-a-state-anger...

http://www.state.gov/p/nea/ci/pt/

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Historically, there has never been a Palestinian Arab state or Arab sovereignty over the West Bank, Gaza, or the rest of Israel.

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http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/list/21-facts-about-israel-that-haters-will-ne...

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philperth2010,

Could you answer some basic questions about the country/nation of Palestine:

1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What language did the Palestinians speak?
3. What writing [script] did they use?
4. What manuscripts did they leave?
5. What was their religion?
6. Where are their temples?
7. What monuments attest to their existence?
8. What were its borders?
9. What was the name of its capital?
10. What were its major cities?
11. What constituted the basis of its economy?
12. What was the name of the currency that they used?
13. What was its form of government?
14. What achievements have they accomplished?
15. What other peoples did Palestine interact with?
16. Where can one find any [historic] records, wherein the country of Palestine and its people are mentioned?
17. What archaeological sites can one name?
18. Where can one find the recorded history of these people?
19. Whom did they conquer?, or, were conquered by?
20. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation [or doubt]?
21. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?
22. Can anyone name at least five Palestinian leaders before Arafat?
23. Finally, since there is no such recognised country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

Further, why did these proud 'Palestinians' between 1948 and 1967, passively, allow themselves to be occupied by the Jordanians in the 'West Bank', and by the Egyptians in Gaza?

Those Q's [above] are taken from;

Part 142 - Palestine and Palestinians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04iGfi9No6M

TRUTH

Part 072 - Promised Land in the Quran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JTl4Yx1VmE

Part 146A - Two States - Israel and Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UXhKv3mmkc

Part 146B - Two States - Israel and Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XvyJrczJ-4

Part 146C - Two States - Israel and Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sYmb6Qml2Y

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"No"

I have made my point about Palestine....It should not be recognised whilst Hamas is leading their government....Israel has every right to defend itself....All the rest is bullshit as far as I am concerned!!!

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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #136 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:41pm

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Defending one's land against attack, you can not be classed as a terror organisation. Hamas are freedom fighters.

The debate on just Hamas is here :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/1#1

You dont 'defend' your land by firing missiles into schools in another country.

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel Reply #137 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:43pm So since the Greens do not support the right of a sovereign nation to exists and support the aims of a terrorist organisation should they all in fact be arrested and thrown out of parliament as terrorism supporters? Discuss...
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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #138 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:48pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Defending one's land against attack, you can not be classed as a terror organisation. Hamas are freedom fighters.

The debate on just Hamas is here :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/1#1

You dont 'defend' your land by firing missiles into schools in another country.

What authority do you have to dictate the actions of Palestinians to defend themselves from invasion?

When Israel is the target of scorn over their actions, you're the first to shout antisemite !

A bit of consistency please.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel Reply #139 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:52pm mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:43pm: So since the Greens do not support the right of a sovereign nation to exists and support the aims of a terrorist organisation should they all in fact be arrested and thrown out of parliament as terrorism supporters? Discuss... Evidence to back up your opinion?
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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #140 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:24pm

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Defending one's land against attack, you can not be classed as a terror organisation. Hamas are freedom fighters.

The debate on just Hamas is here :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/1#1

You dont 'defend' your land by firing missiles into schools in another country.

What authority do you have to dictate the actions of Palestinians to defend themselves from invasion?

When Israel is the target of scorn over their actions, you're the first to shout antisemite !

A bit of consistency please.

You've never heard of 'moral authority'? The firing of missiles at civilians, the blowing up of school buses is way outside any acceptable level of moral behaviour. But you support it. Gaza isnt being invaded. It can very easily be left alone and the only price for that is to stop killing Jews.

You are a particularly nasty anti-semite who admits to denying the right of Israel to even exist. That is why you deservce to be treated like the maggot you are. Why dont you go join Hamas and see how you go. If Hamas doesnt kill you first, the IDF will the moment you try killing Jews like you obviously want to do.

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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #141 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 4:32pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:24pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Defending one's land against attack, you can not be classed as a terror organisation. Hamas are freedom fighters.

The debate on just Hamas is here :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/1#1

You dont 'defend' your land by firing missiles into schools in another country.

What authority do you have to dictate the actions of Palestinians to defend themselves from invasion?

When Israel is the target of scorn over their actions, you're the first to shout antisemite !

A bit of consistency please.

You've never heard of 'moral authority'? The firing of missiles at civilians, the blowing up of school buses is way outside any acceptable level of moral behaviour. But you support it. Gaza isnt being invaded. It can very easily be left alone and the only price for that is to stop killing Jews.

You are a particularly nasty anti-semite who admits to denying the right of Israel to even exist. That is why you deservce to be treated like the maggot you are. Why dont you go join Hamas and see how you go. If Hamas doesnt kill you first, the IDF will the moment you try killing Jews like you obviously want to do.

Moral authority is not an actual currency.
Try again

As for the rest of your rant, it's of no relevance because it's made up.

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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #142 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 4:46pm

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:24pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Defending one's land against attack, you can not be classed as a terror organisation. Hamas are freedom fighters.

The debate on just Hamas is here :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/1#1

You dont 'defend' your land by firing missiles into schools in another country.

What authority do you have to dictate the actions of Palestinians to defend themselves from invasion?

When Israel is the target of scorn over their actions, you're the first to shout antisemite !

A bit of consistency please.

You've never heard of 'moral authority'? The firing of missiles at civilians, the blowing up of school buses is way outside any acceptable level of moral behaviour. But you support it. Gaza isnt being invaded. It can very easily be left alone and the only price for that is to stop killing Jews.

You are a particularly nasty anti-semite who admits to denying the right of Israel to even exist. That is why you deservce to be treated like the maggot you are. Why dont you go join Hamas and see how you go. If Hamas doesnt kill you first, the IDF will the moment you try killing Jews like you obviously want to do.

Moral authority is not an actual currency.
Try again

As for the rest of your rant, it's of no relevance because it's made up.

Naturally you know nothing about moral authority. It would require morals in the first place, anti-semite.

There are not many people ugly and evil enough to actually deny the right to exist for an entire nation. But you managed it anti-semite.

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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #143 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 4:54pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:24pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Defending one's land against attack, you can not be classed as a terror organisation. Hamas are freedom fighters.

The debate on just Hamas is here :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/1#1

You dont 'defend' your land by firing missiles into schools in another country.

What authority do you have to dictate the actions of Palestinians to defend themselves from invasion?

When Israel is the target of scorn over their actions, you're the first to shout antisemite !

A bit of consistency please.

You've never heard of 'moral authority'? The firing of missiles at civilians, the blowing up of school buses is way outside any acceptable level of moral behaviour. But you support it. Gaza isnt being invaded. It can very easily be left alone and the only price for that is to stop killing Jews.

You are a particularly nasty anti-semite who admits to denying the right of Israel to even exist. That is why you deservce to be treated like the maggot you are. Why dont you go join Hamas and see how you go. If Hamas doesnt kill you first, the IDF will the moment you try killing Jews like you obviously want to do.

Moral authority is not an actual currency.
Try again

As for the rest of your rant, it's of no relevance because it's made up.

Naturally you know nothing about moral authority. It would require morals in the first place, anti-semite.

There are not many people ugly and evil enough to actually deny the right to exist for an entire nation. But you managed it anti-semite.

Is your position so weak, that lying and name calling are your only buddies?

Your argument is based around your moral authority to dictate terms. That isn't a valued currency here, considering your underhanded behaviour.

If you are not interested in defending Israel's opposition to peace negotiations, then there doesn't seem a point in discussing with you any further.

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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #144 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 7:13pm

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

____ wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Defending one's land against attack, you can not be classed as a terror organisation. Hamas are freedom fighters.

The debate on just Hamas is here :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/1#1

You dont 'defend' your land by firing missiles into schools in another country.

What authority do you have to dictate the actions of Palestinians to defend themselves from invasion?

When Israel is the target of scorn over their actions, you're the first to shout antisemite !

A bit of consistency please.

still waiting to hear from you what you believe is the long term strategy when it comes to educating young children to kill jews?

And aggressive actions are not defense.

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