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Reply #120 - Dec 9th, 2015 at 11:09pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 9th, 2015 at 9:51am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 9th, 2015 at 7:33am:

I really do not care one iota what you THINK,

Palestine as a country does NOT EXIST.

IN fact, it has never existed.

There has never ever in all of history been a country called Palestine.


  Palestine is the REGION encompassing israel and some of the lands around it.  The supposed 'recognition' is nothing more than a statement supporting a concept or a wish or whatever.

Let me ask what you would think of the UN recognising the Aboriginal Nation. Would you not immediately say that it does not exist and in fact, never has?



For the first part Palestine has been mentioned in many ancient texts


and the fact the USA and Australia will recognise Palestine along with the other 135 nations once it has reached an accord with Israel makes your claim absurd....Aboriginal people were granted native title because they are considered the first custodians of the land....Your whole argument is complete bullshit as usual???

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-vatican-recognizes-palestine-as-a-state-anger...

http://www.state.gov/p/nea/ci/pt/

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes







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Historically, there has never been a Palestinian Arab state or Arab sovereignty over the West Bank, Gaza, or the rest of Israel.



IMAGE source....
http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/list/21-facts-about-israel-that-haters-will-ne...




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philperth2010,


Could you answer some basic questions about the country/nation of Palestine:

1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What language did the Palestinians speak?
3. What writing [script] did they use?
4. What manuscripts did they leave?
5. What was their religion?
6. Where are their temples?
7. What monuments attest to their existence?
8. What were its borders?
9. What was the name of its capital?
10. What were its major cities?
11. What constituted the basis of its economy?
12. What was the name of the currency that they used?
13. What was its form of government?
14. What achievements have they accomplished?
15. What other peoples did Palestine interact with?
16. Where can one find any [historic] records, wherein the country of Palestine and its people are mentioned?
17. What archaeological sites can one name?
18. Where can one find the recorded history of these people?
19. Whom did they conquer?, or, were conquered by?
20. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation [or doubt]?
21. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?
22. Can anyone name at least five Palestinian leaders before Arafat?
23. Finally, since there is no such recognised country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?


Further, why did these proud 'Palestinians' between 1948 and 1967, passively, allow themselves to be occupied by the Jordanians in the 'West Bank', and by the Egyptians in Gaza?


Those Q's  [above] are taken from;

Part 142 - Palestine and Palestinians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04iGfi9No6M



TRUTH

Part 072 - Promised Land in the Quran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JTl4Yx1VmE

Part 146A - Two States - Israel and Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UXhKv3mmkc

Part 146B - Two States - Israel and Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XvyJrczJ-4

Part 146C - Two States - Israel and Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sYmb6Qml2Y



HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, by Yadda;
Here are a full listing of YOUTUBE audio files, which challenge ISLAM, Mohammed's prophet-hood, and teh virtue of Allah/moslems;
http://www.al-rassooli.com/blog/




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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #121 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 7:16am
 
Well at least we all now know and GReens has agreed that

The GREENS do not support Israel's right to exist


and in pink - the colour of cowards.
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Reply #122 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 7:40am
 
Mariacostel is Longweekend69er's Grandmother


Because it's big and in colour, it must be true.
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Reply #123 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 8:01am
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 9th, 2015 at 10:56pm:
Its time wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 7:34am:

How much longer are we going to let the Jews milk WW2?




Google;
how many muslim nations are there                         ???


Around 50.

BUT, there is just one, tiny, Jewish state.




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IMAGE....
http://www.protestwarrior.com/nimages/signs/large/pw_sign_22.gif


"Abdullah my brother, the Jews have take our land, and we are a homeless people.

WAIL! WAIL! WAIL!

Those dastardly Zionists!!

We want our land back."

/sarc off



'We want our land back.'
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p.s.
So did the Jewish people.      Wink



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Video tour through Israel.....

Israel ¡Seeing is Believing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLgdb6r0MQ4





Isaiah 40:1
Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.
3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.




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Isaiah 17:12
Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13  The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14  And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.


Joel 3:9
Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
10  Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
11  Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
12  Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
13  Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.


Zechariah 12:1
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
2  Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.


Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
40  For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
41  If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
42  I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.
43  Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.




Google;
the song of moses




Give the jews antartica to live , sorted.
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Re: ALP Sucks Up 2 Israel
Reply #124 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 8:17am
 
____ wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 7:40am:
Mariacostel is Longweekend69er's Grandmother


Because it's big and in colour, it must be true.


So given you only recognise the PAlestinian authority, while Hamas remains in control of gaZa what is your suggestion for the way forward to a sovereign Palestinian state?  Remember, you don't support Hamas. Or so you suggested per your latest backflip.
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Reply #125 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 8:55am
 
Hamas are freedom fighters rather than a terrorist organisation.

There you go. A personal and not a Greens position has been staked.

If you have something to say on Hamas, then here is a debate thread :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/0#0



There can be no two state solution with Hamas excluded from negotiations. .

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Reply #126 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:04am
 
____ wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 8:55am:
Hamas are freedom fighters rather than a terrorist organisation.

There you go. A personal and not a Greens position has been staked.

If you have something to say on Hamas, then here is a debate thread :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/0#0



There can be no two state solution with Hamas excluded from negotiations. .


Grin freedom figters dont demand the destruction of all people of a religion and an entire state.

Thanks for confirming your loopy belief.
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Reply #127 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:07am
 
Defending one's land against attack, you can not be classed as a terror organisation. Hamas are freedom fighters.


The debate on just Hamas is here :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/1#1
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Reply #128 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:11am
 
____ wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:07am:
Defending one's land against attack, you can not be classed as a terror organisation. Hamas are freedom fighters.


The debate on just Hamas is here :

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604/1#1

They dont get attacked until they decide to send their bombs over in "defence" and encourage their civilians to kill jews.  Especially children who get encouraged. 

Looney.  Keep going.
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Reply #129 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:18am
 
Israel stops entry of cement into Gaza


Israeli authorities have stopped the entry of cement into the Gaza Strip, the Anadolu Agency reported the Palestinian Ministry of Economy saying yesterday.

Deputy Minister Imad Al-Baz said that the Israeli decision was “surprising” as it was not preceded by any official or non-official notice.

After international mediation Israel agreed to allow cement into Gaza in order to let people whose houses were destroyed during last year’s Israeli war rebuild their properties. Israel agreed with the UN on tight controls on the entry of cement.

“The ministry was surprised that Israel stopped allowing cement in,” Al-Baz said, noting that his ministry immediately contacted the UN which said it is currently in contact with Israel regarding the issue.

Al-Baz described the Israeli decision as “oppressive”, noting that 30,000 citizens had applied for cement to build, rebuild or renovate their homes.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/22723-israel-stops-entry-of-c...

Israel constantly attack the citizens of Gaza and do it so the Palestinians have no other choice than act out.

Stop pretending Israel are perfect and pure.


The only way to advance the two state solution is by recognising Hamas and having Hamas included in negotiations.

Australia is impeding the advancement of peace by refusing to recognise Hamas.

Time for Australia to grow up and stop being a puppet of Israel.
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Reply #130 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:33am
 
____ wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:18am:
Israel stops entry of cement into Gaza


Israeli authorities have stopped the entry of cement into the Gaza Strip, the Anadolu Agency reported the Palestinian Ministry of Economy saying yesterday.

Deputy Minister Imad Al-Baz said that the Israeli decision was “surprising” as it was not preceded by any official or non-official notice.

After international mediation Israel agreed to allow cement into Gaza in order to let people whose houses were destroyed during last year’s Israeli war rebuild their properties. Israel agreed with the UN on tight controls on the entry of cement.

“The ministry was surprised that Israel stopped allowing cement in,” Al-Baz said, noting that his ministry immediately contacted the UN which said it is currently in contact with Israel regarding the issue.

Al-Baz described the Israeli decision as “oppressive”, noting that 30,000 citizens had applied for cement to build, rebuild or renovate their homes.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/22723-israel-stops-entry-of-c...

Israel constantly attack the citizens of Gaza and do it so the Palestinians have no other choice than act out.

Stop pretending Israel are perfect and pure.


The only way to advance the two state solution is by recognising Hamas and having Hamas included in negotiations.

Australia is impeding the advancement of peace by refusing to recognise Hamas.

Time for Australia to grow up and stop being a puppet of Israel.


So your position is hamas should continue to encourage the death of all jews because israel has stopped cement from entering the gaza strip where itll get used by hamas for its tunnels specifically designed to kill jews?

Youll also notice i have never said i agree with Israel's hard right policies.  What i have said, and havent backed away unlike yourself , is thst the only way to get israel to change its policies is to eradicate terrorism that plagues the gaza strip.  I dont believe that teaching kids to kill jews should be rewarded with a seat at the negotiating table.  But you think they are freedom figthers.  Freedom figthers dont encoursge citizens to start doing suicide bombings in order to break a peace accord.  Freedom figthers dont believe their enemy needs to be completely obliterated.  Not only that but these so called freedom figthers dont even believe in a two state solution!

Thanks for acknowledging you are a terrorist sympathiser and apologist,  without much knowledge to back up you pov.
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Reply #131 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:40am
 
I have come to a conclusion that Hamas do not fit into the terrorist description, not that I support some of Hamas' tactics.

I have also deducted, excluding Hamas from the peace process guarantees the peace process will fail.

For the purpose of gaining a two state solution, one of the targets must be educating Australians on why Australia should remove Hamas from the terrorist list.


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Reply #132 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:42am
 
____ wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:40am:
I have come to a conclusion that Hamas do not fit into the terrorist description, not that I support some of Hamas' tactics.

I have also deducted, excluding Hamas from the peace process guarantees the peace process will fail.

For the purpose of gaining a two state solution, one of the targets must be educating Australians on why Australia should remove Hamas from terrorist list.


Perhaps when thry stop encouraging the massacre of jews.  Which you seem okay with.  How did you come to that conclusion?   And how do you propose to getting to a 2 state solution when the terrorists dont believe in that?

Seriously , stick to saving trees.
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Reply #133 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 10:01am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:42am:
____ wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:40am:
I have come to a conclusion that Hamas do not fit into the terrorist description, not that I support some of Hamas' tactics.

I have also deducted, excluding Hamas from the peace process guarantees the peace process will fail.

For the purpose of gaining a two state solution, one of the targets must be educating Australians on why Australia should remove Hamas from terrorist list.


Perhaps when thry stop encouraging the massacre of jews.  Which you seem okay with.  How did you come to that conclusion?   And how do you propose to getting to a 2 state solution when the terrorists dont believe in that?

Seriously , stick to saving trees.



What is Israel's ultimate aim with Gaza. They have it currently as the world's biggest concentration camp.

Is there a longterm plan?
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Reply #134 - Dec 10th, 2015 at 10:05am
 
____ wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 10:01am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:42am:
____ wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:40am:
I have come to a conclusion that Hamas do not fit into the terrorist description, not that I support some of Hamas' tactics.

I have also deducted, excluding Hamas from the peace process guarantees the peace process will fail.

For the purpose of gaining a two state solution, one of the targets must be educating Australians on why Australia should remove Hamas from terrorist list.


Perhaps when thry stop encouraging the massacre of jews.  Which you seem okay with.  How did you come to that conclusion?   And how do you propose to getting to a 2 state solution when the terrorists dont believe in that?

Seriously , stick to saving trees.



What is Israel's ultimate aim with Gaza. They have it currently as the world's biggest concentration camp.

Is there a longterm plan?

Remove the terrorists and stop threat to israel.

Anymore questions, mr terrorist apologist?  Whats hamas's aim with teaching children to indiscriminately kill jews?
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